Talk:Scotiabank Place

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Ice Hockey, an attempt at building a useful ice hockey resource. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit the article attached to this page (see Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ for more information).

Ice hockey Portal
Start This article has been rated as start-Class on the quality scale.
Canada Portal
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Canada and related WikiProjects, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles on Canada-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project member page, to join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
Start This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale.
Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.
Canadian music
This article is part of the Canadian music WikiProject (Discuss/Join).
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ottawa, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ottawa articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
Start This article has been rated as Start-class on the quality scale.
Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

Contents

[edit] Kanata

Hmmm, Shouldn't the address be Kanata, Ontario? ccwaters 20:00, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, the article says that Kanata was merged into Ottawa, so based on that info, I'd say no. Then again, I am unfamiliar with Canadian addresses and the like, but that's what it looks like to me. RADICALBENDER★ 20:12, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
Its been 4 years and the Senators and the Corel Centre still list their address as Kanata. I'd imagine is like giving out a Queens, NY addy. I'm not to familiar with Ottawa, been there once about 15-20 years ago. I'm not an authority, but I'd say use the address they use. ccwaters 20:30, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
The address is still Kanata, as far as I know. -- Earl Andrew - talk 20:51, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I changed the postal address to Kanata, which the Corel Centre and the Senators still use. I assume there are situations along the lines of a X Main Street being in Ottawa proper and the neighborhood formerly known as Kanata. I left all references of the arena being in Ottawa alone. There already is an explanation of Kanata being absorbed in the article. ccwaters 14:27, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
There were mass street name changes after the amalgamation so there would be no problems for emergeny vehicles. -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:55, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Canada Post hasn't changed the mailing addresses yet as it would cost the city a small fortune to do. --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 23:07, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

The thing is that Corel Centre is located in Ottawa. A valid solution could be to post it as 1000 Palladium Drive, Ottawa (Kanata), Ontario just until Canada Post decides to change the mailing address to mere Ottawa. Nikele

The first paragraph clearly states that the arena is in Ottawa in the area that was formerly Kanata. There is no attempt to hide that. If the official mailing address is Kanata, then the mailing address listed in the article should reflect that. ccwaters 13:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

i live in ottawa and the person who put the address as ottawa is wrong. even though its now part of ottawa you still have to put it as kanata cuz its a suburb


There are two correct addresses: As a result of amalgamation of the City of Ottawa, the correct CIVIC ADDRESS is Ottawa. HOWEVER, Canada Post does not recognize the City of Ottawa's amalgamation: ALL former municipalities remain (in fact the ONLY reliable way to search an address is using the name of the former municipality). Therefore, the correct MAILING ADDRESS for Canada Post is Kanata. IMHO, I believe the former names of municipalities will continue to be recognized, in spite of amalgamation, as is the case in other amalgamated municipalities in Canada, like Toronto for example. It's horribly confusing, but nobody ever said Canada Post knows what it's doing! Myarabianknight 16:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The correct mailing address should be Ottawa, since Kanata isn't a city anymore. Canada Post seems to prefer Kanata because it's more specific, but typically mail should be addressed by city, not by city ward. Canada Post will accept mail regardless if it's addressed to Kanata or Ottawa, because mail is sorted and delivered by postal codes anyway. I think the address on this page should remain Ottawa, because referencing a non-existant city is very confusing, especially for visitors. Also having the Ottawa Senators' arena located in a city outside of Ottawa wouldn't make much sense to outsiders, much as it didn't make sense to me when they built it. :) --70.81.251.32 01:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The address should be listed as Kanata. This is the address used on the offical website of Scotiabank Place, so it should probably be the one used here. Jimemos (talk) 20:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Canada Post does recognize Kanata, Ontario as a valid address. Lead section has been reworded. Flibirigit (talk) 21:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Stop changing this to Kanata. There are lots of post offices in Ottawa. Vanier, Rockliffe, Nepean, Gloucester, Westboro. It's all Ottawa now. Just because you can use the old name doesn't mean the city did not merge into Ottawa. Alaney2k (talk) 23:06, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Location

  • The article suggests that the Corel Centre is located next to a 400-series highway due to transportation reasons, which is pretty far from the truth. Its location is due to the fact that Terrace Investments owned the land in Kanata, and an NHL hockey team/arena was the hook they tried to use to bring their lands within the urban boundary (the lands were zoned at the time for agricultural uses, and were unlikely to be rezoned for urban uses unless Terrace could "wow" the public authorities). The arena's location is due to a real estate redevelopment scheme, therefore, and was not chosen due to any transportation criteria. At the time, when Terrace was seeking municipal and OMB Official Plan and rezoning permissions to allow the arena, many argued that a downtown location would be preferable from a transportation perspective. Terrace, unsurprisingly, refused to consider a downtown location because they did not own any land downtown and a downtown site would have torpedoed the rest of the redevelopment scheme in Kanata (ironically, the OMB eventually did shoot down the rest of the redevelopment when it approved the arena, and it wasn't until years later that the surrounding lands began to be redeveloped with business and retail uses).

    As anyone who has used the Queensway to get to and from a game at the Corel Centre can attest, putting the arena out in Kanata might not have been the best decision from a transportation perspective. Skeezix1000 16:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seating Capacity

There are a lot of conflicting statements about the seating capacity, one says it was increased 19,311, another area says 20,004, and it also says the seating capacity was increased by 2,000 from 18,500 making 20,500. As far as I know, the league still considers and attendance of 18,500 to be a sell out for the team, but most games featured attendance significantly higher than that capacity due to standing room. I looked at the website but couldn't find any numbers, does any one know for sure?

  • Are there standing room tickets available at the arena? Nyrmetros 05:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
According to the website, under venue history: "December 2004: Through a City of Ottawa review of by-laws in December 2004, the Corel Centre is allowed to increase its seating capacity to 19,153 and total attendance to 20,500." So it appears that there are 1000+ standing room spaces. Skeezix1000 13:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Wait, just noticed that the article has already been updated to reflect this information. Skeezix1000 13:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the (more famous) London Palladium

YOu need a disambiguation section to distinguish this from the (more famous) London Palladium. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.205.224.155 (talk • contribs).

Whether it is more famous or not, and that's an issue for debate, the question is: why? The article isn't called "Palladium" - there is simply a mention in the article of the former name. Nobody coming across this article entitled "Scotiabank Place" is going to be confused that they are reading an article about a London theatre. In any event, if you type in "Palladium" in the Wikipedia search engine, you are directed to an article on the (even "more famous") chemical element. That page has a disambiguation link that leads the reader, if necessary, to Palladium (disambiguation) which presumably lists all of the palladiums in Wikipedia. Skeezix1000 12:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment

I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, and of low importance, as it is a highly specific topic within Canada. Cheers, CP 14:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)