Talk:Scooter (band)

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[edit] Article

Any chance of anyone lengthening the article e.g. bigger history, list of samples (there are a hell of a lot) used in their songs, detailed album descriptions, etc etc?

[edit] German techno group?

German techno group? rofl

Who put this? What else what you class it as then? It's techno... happy hardcore, trance, whatever, all originate from techno. The band themselves call their music 'techno'... and their official website is called 'Scootertechno' DShamen 23:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

What a ridiculous thing to say! The equivalent of calling Scooter a techno band is calling Jesus a racist? What would you call Scooter then?

I agree, what a moron.

Funny thing, the only techno band worth notice is Scooter. IEEE 10:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

They are techno... hardcore, happy hardcore, trance are all offshoots of techno. To call them simply 'dance' is ridiculous. I don't see that categorization on other electronic dance artists.

"that gaming site, wikipedia" heh. -x1987x(talk) 16:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

There is a good word for Scooter's music - eurodance. 62.78.153.171 16:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Eurodance is good word for those "critics" who heard only "Fish" and "Fire". The main Scooter's tracks are techno, hardcore, happy hardcore, trance as say higher. Relax. Be good. :))--Oleg Abarnikov 17:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I have listened to electronic dance music for about fifteen years (including Scooter) and I would say that Scooter's music has never been hardcore or techno. It has, however, been rave and happy hardcore and sometimes even trance. Mostly, Scooter has their own genre based on happy hardcore. Someone has been altering the genres, it should be stopped. There is nothing wrong in being a happy hardcore musician (or at least not much...), there is no reason why there should be these genres (techno, hardcore) listed. Not everything with a drum machine is techno and not every techno track with a distorted TR-808 bass drum is hardcore. Mstuomel 19:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Well it would seem that most people on here disagree... (unsigned comment left by 84.13.92.53)

It seems the majority consensus is that Scooter is a techno band. To the guy who said Scooter is "eurodance", are you really serious? No scooter fan will ever tell yuo scooter is an eurodance band. - Killeroid 00:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

    • I think, I know this guy. Whan I managed an article in RU-Wiki, one man was very strong in his suggestions about this band. And he really thouth that Scooter is eurodance. His right of course, but he's really wrong.--Oleg Abarnikov (talk) 09:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Scooter is not techno. Techno is a genre about repetative loops and electronic percussion, usually without melody (or there just simple melodies). That applies to any techno genre from detroit to hard techno, from minimal to acid techno. So, when Scooter made music like this style? Never. That's one thing that everything with 4/4 drum machine is mistakenly called techno by people who not into electronic music. And yes I know they say about themself that, they're a techno band. To be correct they played many different styles in the time. Like happy hardcore, hands up, anthem house, eurotrance, trance, hardtrance, a mix beetween them, etc. But not techno. Why does an electronic dance music band wouldn't be okay for description? --TaZaR 19:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] German

Someone should translate the German wiki article.

Yeah to much UK german bashing in it:)

-- Al™ 05:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC) Scooter have been my favouite band for years. scooter is NOT TECHNO ITS HARD DANCE. IF YOU LISTEN TO THEIR MUSIC it does not sound like techno. no real techno dj plays scooter.pff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.149.97 (talk) 00:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] someone have to edit ...

scooter is from scotland...

H.P. Baxxter Rick J. Jordan Michael Simon

<irony>all typical german names, isnt it? </ironi> Not their real names. H.P. is actually called Hans-Peter Geredees. ¬_¬

They are German. These are NOT their real names... they have no link to Scotland whatsoever.

  • "scooter is from scotland..." LOL, LOL, Lol!!!!! Hahahaha!!!!! Good 2nd "critic", go on!--Oleg Abarnikov 17:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


"they have no link to Scotland whatsoever."... apart from the fact that Ultra-Sonic claimed in magazines that Scooter copied them to a tee, which was Scottish rave music.

The Beginning of Scooter - where vocalist H.P. Baxxter began freestyling to an instrumental dance track, thus the melody "Hyper Hyper" being born.

I know this Ultra-Sonic connection was on the article from some years back... now seemingly removed. It's actually mentioned on the German wiki page.

"Im Mai wurde Hyper Hyper veröffentlicht, dessen gleichnamige Vocals auf "Annihilating Rhythm" des schottischen Acts Ultra-Sonic basiert. Dieser Titel war stilbildend für viele der später produzierten Stücke Scooters."

The connection is much further if you have the M8 Magazines from the mid-1990s. --Revolt (talk) 10:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

Ok, this article isn't written like a encyclopedia article but from a Bio side. Can someone please clean it up?

[edit] Australian charts??

According to www.australian-charts.com the only songs that charted by Scooter were "The Logical Song" and "Nessaja" .. yet somehow other songs are noted there? It should be specified if it was just the club charts, because they are completely different to the regular charts. 211.30.195.154 03:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Here's all charts success - [1] - dance and not dance--Oleg Abarnikov 17:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

The controversy section is poorly worded and EXTREMELEY biased. There is no proof that Scooter HASN'T got the licenses for the samples they use. And yes, it is techno. Cheesy? yes. Yet techno nonetheless.

  • "HASN'T got the licenses for the samples they use" Hahaha! Where are reports of lawsuits? I can't find it. More of this, leader of KLF said that he like Scooter and proud that they use their's samples.--Oleg Abarnikov 17:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Thats what I'm tryin to say lol, no proof they DONT have licensing!

    • Ooopss :) Didn't seen "no proof"--Oleg Abarnikov 17:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible edit war

I have noticed that this article is in danger of going into edit war. Anonymous IP addresses constantly add "fan sites" offering mp3 downloads and edit the genres. Some consensus should be reached or perhaps some expert attention is needed? Mstuomel 08:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

It would appear that you don't think they are techno whilst other users do. Well I suggest that you check their official website, where the band themselves class their music as 'techno' and numerous other website that also classify them as such. I shall stay out of such a petty argument other than showing you an example - check www.allmusic.com's description of what they think Scooter actually are. Also, if we're going to be fussy... Scooter haven't played happy hardcore for over a decade, nor done anything remotely 'ravey' either. And as most of their tracks since then haven't really been trance (other than a few exceptions) then what else can we class the rest of their music as?DShamen 10:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Scooter are the Spinal Tap of dance music; they walk the line between clever and stupid. As for what Scooter thinks Scooter is, they're the kind of techno that people who don't know what techno is call techno.

There is no edit war. WP:EL clearly states that these links are NOT acceptable and actually they should be treated like vandalism. Its a tried and true practice and if it happens the user(s) involved will be acted against via the normal linkspam/vandalism channels.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 22:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

  • "Real Techno" is bull sh... Stupid sounds without purpose, melody. Scooter are GREATEST!--Oleg Abarnikov 17:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Celebrate The Nun

I thought I'd replace the image of "Celebrate the Nun" since they have a clearer picture in their 1991 album "Continuous". Hope nobody minds. Harout72

[edit] Genre Changes

Right, fed up of this nonsense... as far as I'm concerned, they largely produce what can be loosely described as 'techno'... they have done happy hardcore and hardcore (both forms of 'rave' music) in the early 90s, and have always done a number of tracks with trance-like influences, and have more recently produced music with hard house influences. I'm all for the inclusion of all of these genres. DShamen 02:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

    • Not "trance-like" and "hard house influences", but super-real trance and real house.--Oleg Abarnikov (talk) 09:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Non-free images

I think using four nonfree images is a bit much in this article. Can we decide on one and get rid of the others? Album covers are really only fair use on the article about the album itself, but I would accept one (though other admins may differ). Rather than just removing them all I thought I would open it up for further discussion. Please see WP:FAIRUSE for more details. --John (talk) 21:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe, every single one of the images should be kept because each represents a different Scooter-chapter/era as well as different third member. Yes, we do have four images, first of which represents Celebrate the Nun (not active beyond 1991), then we have the second image which includes Sören Bühler (aka Ferris Büller) who left the act in 1998, in the third one, there is Axel Broszeit (aka Axel Coon) who has not been with the band since 2002, and the fourth image has Jürgen Frosch (aka Jay Frog) within, who in his turn, has not been with the act ever since Michael Simon replaced him in 2006. Consequently, I'd say we should keep them all not only because they all have been deliberated and approved by administrators but also because they all provide an immediate relevance to the reader more capably than the textual description would . --Harout72 (talk) 02:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)