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[edit] Sci Fi Pictures original films

I've recently seceded the list of B-movies from List of Sci Fi Channel (United States) programs so that it could prosper on its own.. If any one of you can do their part to improve this article or its corresponding articles, please feel free to do so. Personally, I've got around to doing the ones for Savage Planet, The Snake King, and The Harpy. DrWho42 06:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PRWeb "Press Release"

I've read the article history and some of the editors are doing a good job so far. However, I'd still advise those tempted to put this info onto the article not to do so. Also, look here. I haven't found it, so it looks like it has been deleted. -- CRiyl 16:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

As soon as I saw this on fark I knew someone would have already hit wikipedia with it. Note to future editors of this article: Just because its on the internet doesn't mean its true. http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2249915 Carterhawk 23:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I readily admit and apologize for my mistake -- I had no idea PR Web was a site anyone could submit anything to. However, isn't it kinda telling that such a hoax could begin in the first place, and was believed by so many (I saw it mentioned on several messageboards I frequent, and no one thought it was a hoax until I later told them otherwise)? What does that say about the Sci-Fi Channel? (Yeah, yeah, I know, Wikipedia is not a messageboard or soapbox... just venting.) --Dr Archeville 12:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sci-Fi Friday section.

Frankly, it seems as out-of-place as M. Night Shyamalan hoax, but I think that the forementioned section would be much better off under Sci Fi original programming in either this article or List of Sci Fi Channel (United States) programs. Anyone agree with me? DrWho42 00:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] United States?

Should the (United States) be dropped from the title? I mean the Sci Fi channel is availible in more than just the USA so its probably better to drop it? Discuss. FireBadger 13:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The (United States) is just there to disambiguate the entry, check out the Sci Fi Channel link, you can see that there are several different channels throughout the world using that name (although they all appear to be affiliated with this one). Cogswobble 13:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date problem

The article says "Isaac Asimov [was] among those on the advisory board.", but the Issac Asimov article says he died in April 1992, a few months before the channel's launch. Is that a mistake? —Saric (Talk) 23:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

No, its not a mistake. He was on the advisory board. This channel was a long time coming, and Asimov was on the board for a long time as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.19.246 (talk) 04:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1999 Logo

To whoever uploaded that, thanks. 72.185.241.146 23:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Note

--Interesting Note-- Until November 2, 2006 there was a separate listing in Wikipedia for the SFC president Bonnie Hammer. When I looked it up a week ago it was there. When I check earlier this morning(11-02-2006) it was there and when I checked a hour ago it was GONE. It seems somebody deleted it for some reason. I assume a supporter or Bonnie had something to do with this info disappearing. What do you all think?

[edit] I don't get this trivia fact.

"As a placeholder for those who were about to receive the Sci Fi channel on cable, a loop of a fly through space in first-person perspective was shown, with a countdown clock in the corner that told viewers exactly when Sci Fi would begin programming. This went on for at least two months before the channel's inception."

I know the fact that this was a countdown,but what is a "loop of a fly through space"?

Ever seen the "fly through space" windows screensaver? Yeah. Same deal. ~ PH DrillSergeant...§ 03:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget the 'We're coming for you...(insert name of prominent sci-fi character) voice over. MWShort (talk) 19:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Possible expansion

Now that the 1999-2003 Sci-Fi logo has been added into the thumbnails, and the History section makes mention of the currently used network bumpers, I now think the history section should be expanded, in certain ways:

It should explain that from 1992 to 1999, the Sci-Fi Channel's main focus was on science fiction-related pop culture (this was during the time at which the original blue rendition of the "Saturn logo" was used). Before the cable channel was widely carried on United States receivers, Sci-Fi's core programming consisted of shows that took people behind the scenes at '90s fan conventions for many science fiction franchises that were popular at the time (many of which are still popular today). The "blue Saturn" logo had periodic variations in addition to the one seen on the article's thumbnail; during each Fourth of July, the "outer ring" would turn red but the "planet" and the text "Sci-Fi Channel" would retain their normal colors of blue and white, making the logo resemble the colors on the American flag; during each Halloween season, the entire logo would turn orange to resemble the color of a pumpkin; and every Christmas season the entire logo would turn green to resemble holiday colors. And all the network bumpers either showed famous movie or TV clips or a head talking with outerspace as the background. By the time Sci-Fi was widely carried circa 1997, people started e-mailing requests to the channel to focus less on pop culture and more on the genre's actual entertainment, so in 1999 Sci-Fi updated their original "Saturn logo" by dropping the text in the center and changing the color from blue to clear (it should be noted that the newly-uploaded 1999 logo in the thumbnail actually had the words "SCI FI" appear below it during promos for their programming (but not in the on-screen bug during programming or during network promos), meaning that whoever it was who uploaded that image only included part of the logo); subsequently, they changed their primary focus to the genre's actual entertainment and launched their Friday night lineup that's still in use today, only the programs were different (Poltergeist, Farscape, Sliders, and First Wave) during the initial launch of their core lineup than they are today. This change was also done to make themselves more like their sister channel USA, which always dealt primarily with entertainment. From 1999 up until 2003, all the network bumpers showed high-tech interactions between humans and cybernetic machinery, with graphics closely resembling those found in the 1999 blockbuster film The Matrix. Occasionally there were network bumpers that dealt with the cybernetic machinery itself and didn't include the appearance of any humans. By the early 2000's, Sci-Fi had become a rather mainstream cable channel, and to emphasize their focus on mainstream science fiction entertainment, they launched another new logo in 2003; this logo featured a geometrical outline of "Saturn" and the words "Sci Fi" to the right of it (the whole logo appeared during programming as the bug on the bottom-right corner, unlike the previous logo); they then made their Friday night programming even more mainstream with the smash hit remake of Battlestar Galactica as well as two Stargate spin-offs (SG-1 and Atlantis). This logo, focus, and programming lineup variation is still in use today. I think the History section should be expanded to include this important information. 72.185.241.146 23:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The current SCI FI logo was actually introduced during SCI FI's debut airing of their ten-part miniseries Steven Spielberg Presents Taken on December 2nd, 2002. Therefore, by December 2007, the current logo will be five years old. Jason.cinema 03:43, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the above passage that the history and various changes of this channel should be immensely expanded upon. SCI FI is not a sci-fi channel anymore, but it'd be nice to document what this channel once was. Jason.cinema 05:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not the first to show ST:TAS on Cable

This entry incorrectly states that Sci-Fi Channel was the first to show ST:TAS on cable. Nickelodeon was the first to air it back in the 80s. Aristan 02:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I removed the reference stated above from the entry. ST:TAS's own wikipedia entry contradicts the statement that SciFi Channel was the first to run The Animated Series in Cable syndication. Furthermore, I do not believe that the original Star Trek was first ran on the SciFi Channel. The article referenced only makes mention of Enterprise. Aristan (talk) 07:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed farscape cancellation section

I removed this section, as, first of all, it is unlikely that this is an important aspect of the sci fi channel, and secondly, some of its claims are dubious. For example, it contained the unbelievably unlikely line, "almost all the nation's TV critics, who on the 2nd Day of the tour were already being denied or ignored about their questions/requests on Farscape, screamed almost in unison, "No, we want answers now!". --Xyzzyplugh 03:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source Material on Farscape cancellation

That was printed in Washington Post, etc. Source info also listed after item in question. Check out the Farscape listing on Wikipedia as well as many a s/f news fan sites and Farscape sites as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spaceman42 (talk • contribs) 06:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

Here is a link I managed to find to the actual story, contained in the internet archive. [1]. I recommend rewriting this section to not contain the obviously silly line about the critics all screaming in unison. I still find it to be highly doubtful that this incident is somehow important enough in the history of the sci fi channel that it even belongs in this article, but I'll let those who care about this article more than I do deal with that issue. --Xyzzyplugh 12:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relative confirms Reporters actions in Janurary of 2002 during the TREMORS showing

---I have a neighbor who lives up the street. He says his sister is married to a newspaper reporter in the sport section. He said in an email that he got from his brother-in-law that one of the entertainment section reporters that he works with was there at this event. He stated that the entertainment reporter did run into B. Hammer in a hotel lobby and did ask her about the decision to cancel Farscape in 2002. She sort of just left in a hurry saying she had a meeting to get to. He ran into her again later that evening and B. Hammer apparently seem not to interested about Farscape saying she was here to promote her upcoming series of TREMORS. During, the TREMORS showing the following day. After the showing the floor was opened for questions. One of the first questions was the decision to cancel Farscape in 2002. Ms. Hammer did not seem at all interested in answering this question and indicated she would talk to the reporter about this after the TREMORS showing. He confirmed that a very large number of reporters and TV critics in the room almost had a riot demanding answers on the FARSCAPE cancellation. Apparently none of the reporters was not going ask any questions about TREMORS until B. Hammer answered the questions about FARSCAPE cancellation. As for the reporters screaming in unison that did happened in that sort of way.

---User: Fg1977 ---

[edit] Jaws

Whoever keeps adding this ridiculous paragraph about Jaws "definitely not" fitting in with the rest of Sci-Fi's programming, please stop. The first paragraph of the article establishes that the channel specializes in "science fiction, fantasy, horror, and paranormal programming," and the channel frequently shows other horror films like The Shining and made-for-TV dreck like House of the Dead II. Good luck finding a single person who doesn't consider Jaws a horror film. DT29 19:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I have deleted the entire bit about "Jaws" not being a horror film. The Jaws main article says "Jaws was #48 on American Film Institute's 100 Years... 100 Movies, a list of the greatest American films of all time, and #2 on a similar list for thrillers, 100 Years... 100 Thrills. It was #1 in the Bravo network's five-hour miniseries The 100 Scariest Movie Moments (2004).[12] The shark was anointed #18 on AFI's 100 Years, 100 Heroes and Villains." It's article describes it as a "horror-thriller". (Ghostexorcist 19:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC))

Jaws is definitely a horror movie. And whoever keeps adding this paragraph is treading awfully close to vandalism now. --Janus Shadowsong | contribs 16:54, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Satellite Channel

I've watched the Scifi channel ever since it's inception. Back in the day, my parents owned one of those huge satellite dishes that had a motor that rotated it towards the satellite that broadcasted the channels a person wanted to watch. I remember the Scifi channel was on satellite G5, channel 4. I don't recall seeing this in the article. I think it should be noted since I think it was only available on satellite at the time. Here are some pages that mention G5-4: [2], [3], [4]. I lived in Tennessee at the time, but I've run across pages from Ohio and other states that claim it as G5-4.(Ghostexorcist 06:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Farscape Cancellation Section

This particular section needs to be cleaned up. I'm not quite sure of the meaning some of the sentences are meant to convey. Any help on this would be appreciated. The reason I do this here is because I am not aware of how to recommend a page for clean-up otherwise.

Emptyandgray 11:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ani-monday

Does anyone know what shows are broadcast on the ani-monday lineup?

Current shows being broadcast are Noein, Tokko, and the 4-part OVA version of Macross Plus. In addition, the first broadcast of Ani-Monday featured the U.S. premiere of the movie Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. Solid State Society, and the week before that, the movie Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was shown, though I don't know if that had anything to do with the current programming block. I also don't know what shows are planned for future broadcast. --Dinoguy1000 ^Talk 23:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

It seems that Street Fighter II V is replacing Macross Plus now. --Dinoguy1000 ^Talk 16:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate your clarification about links to the SCI FI Channel's encyclopedia of science fiction as appropriate for original programming aired by the SCI FI Channel. Could I ask for a little more information about when links to additional material regarding the SCI FI Channel's programs, as contained in the section of the SCI FI Channel's site known as SCIFIpedia, would be considered useful content?

[edit] Longest Science Fiction TV series

"This channel also aired the popular TV series Stargate SG-1 which was canceled after its 10th season, making it the longest run Science Fiction series ever (surpassing the X-files at 9 seasons). SG-1 is still run in syndication on Sci-Fi Friday and Monday."

I think the title of world's longest scifi series goes to Dr. Who. Stargate has aired 247 episodes while Dr. Who has 737(600+ consecutively) and more episodes are in production. But if you're talking North American shows, I think Stargate does get the title. Hope this helps with the page! --TheDelphi 04:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Investigative Shows?

Why no mention in the investigative shows on Sci-Fi? These would include, Destination Truth, Ghost Hunters, Sci-Fi Investigates, SIGHTINGS, etc. They are in my opinion the backbone of the network along with Sci-Fi Friday. -Zsandmann (talk) 18:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [5]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 02:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Sci-Fi.gif

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Sci-fi logo 1999-2003.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:SciFi channel.svg

Image:SciFi channel.svg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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Lame. Taken care of. (dusts hands) Robert K S (talk) 05:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Ani-Monday Show?

I heard that The Sci Fi Network(USA) is going to air Elfen Lied on TV, but its so GRAPHIC!!! Is that true?--LoliMedia (talk) 13:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

It's certainly possible; however, I couldn't find anything coming up in the schedule or any mentions on the SciFiPedia. If it was aired, I'm not sure what Sci Fi would do about the gore, nudity, etc. --Dino guy 1000 18:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Cartoon Network couldn air it due to EXCESIVE VIOLENCE and ecchi! Could the SciFi Network basicly say F*** You and air it?--LoliMedia (talk) 18:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Honestly, I couldn't tell you. If Sci Fi is indeed planning to air it, it sounds like they've got a heck of a job censoring it enough to get it past the FCC. --Dino guy 1000 19:12, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Old Anime list

I belive, ages ago, that I watched Ronin Warriors on the scifi channel. It was around when they did the Saturday Anime, but was eithe Saturday Mornings or late nights other times. I can't remember. I can't find a source. If i can find any valid source i will add it though. If anyone else can find one, It would be appreciated. Corvato (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Corvato

[edit] Non-science-fiction programming

It might be prudent to point out that both Jaws and Cape Fear are noted as not being "horror" films. Jaws' entry specifically refers to it as a thriller/horror film. I am not familiar with Cape Fear, but it's own entry details it as being particularly violent and at points scary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebarbarian87 (talk • contribs) 03:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)