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[edit] SMS Panther (Caso Panther)
Hello Sceadugenga!
I am the one who wrote about the Panther incident that happened in Southern Brazil in late 1905. I was born and lived most of my life in Itajai (known until early 1900's as Itajahy), a coastal city in the Brazilian state of Santa Catarina. If were not for a book I read more than ten years ago, O Caso Panther (The Panther Affair) by Jose Joffily published in Brazil, I would never know about the troubles caused by the SMS Panther in Itajai. Thanks for the well documented work of Jose Joffily, there is now a handful of Brazilians historians who recognize the impact of that episode on Brazilian politics and military.
According to the book, the Panther abducted a german citizen called Fritz Steinhoff after conducting a door-to-door search in Itajai. The act got such a reaction from the Brazilian government that Baron of Rio Branco, a distinguished Brazilian diplomat, actually declared war against Germany. Many other administration officials got involved, but in the end no further action was taken as a result of American government intervention.
So, while revisiting the SMS Panther article, I noticed your input regarding the lack of citation on the Panther Affair. I realized my lapse on doing so back when I first wrote this particular part of the article, and then made some research on the net. The data is very scarce, nonetheless I found the much needed references.
I am planning on expanding the Itajai incident subject, as well as improving the English language version of the article by mentioning other facts on the SMS Panther, such as Haiti and Venezuela. Out of curiosity I opened the Czech language article of the SMS Panther, and was surprised by the amount of information gathered there, more than the English and German languages put together.
That being so, I decided to write to you (first time I write to a wikipedian) so maybe you will be able in the future to further contribute the Czech article by adding this extraordinary piece of information on the SMS Panther, now that you are one of the very few in the world that knows this. :-)
Best regards,
Walendowsky (talk) 03:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Walendowsky
PS: Please write back, so I will know you read my message.
- Hi!
- Thanks for this citations… I tried to search for something about "Caso Panther" but I didn't find anything in english. The only mention of "Caso Panther" which I've found was this article in portugese (which I don't understand) so I coudn't verify it… Later I've found this thesis which was for me the main source for the cs:SMS Panther. I've used the old online New York Times articles (especially in Haity and Venezuela operations) too.
- I'll be glad to add some more information about this (and others) cause to the czech article when you add it into english version.
- Maybe the english (and german) version of article will need to be rewriten in case of "Agadir Crisis" because of english version imho represents French (and British) point of view (that it was German provocation) and german version represents German POV (that it was planned stop and the crisis was unbinded by French (and English) diplomats…) which is agains Wikipedia rules…
- One more thanks for your contribution and bye… --Sceadugenga (talk) 12:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the reply and for the interest! Walendowsky (talk) 04:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Walendowsky
