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[edit] In the Beginning

Hi, Can you remember a name of any of those pages. They could possibly be found in the deletion log.--Dakota ~ ° 06:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I went back and looked, Dakota, and all of them were gone. The only one I could find in my history was Mike shortt and it has been deleted, as I am sure was the fate of all the other pages too. --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 07:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I found it and put that user on my watchlist.--Dakota ~ ° 07:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belarusians

Stop reverting my edit. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.92.254 (talk • contribs)

Stop vandalizing the page. Deletion of a template without any discussion is not editing. --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 07:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor note

It's gone now, but that page was definately no any real version of "Harry Potter", it quickly degenerated into... something highly suspiscious ;D! 68.39.174.238 08:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't sure, but I figured that it was better to not leave it too doubt. Strange things on here sometimes. Cheers! --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 08:15, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] image:W187.gif

Lotus is a british car factory. Probably you heart of this befor. Best regards -- 80.145.35.220 08:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I have heard of Lotus before, that is not the point. The point is that you were not putting in a source. Simply labelling the image as coming from Lotus is moot. --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 08:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Scaife, what else could i do? It actually was a Lotus promo-picture. -- 80.145.35.220 08:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, you fixed it now. Cheers! --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 08:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arunachal Pradesh

Please stop trying to cover up facts, I have been to Arunachal Pradesh myself and talked to the people there. The Baptist Church has been funding several terrorist groups, the biggest of which is the NSCN. They themselves have admitted to forceful conversions and violence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.72.200.11 (talk • contribs)

Here is one source [1] Another, [2], A baptist preacher caught with arms and bombs in North east India, [3],same item in BBC [4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.72.200.11 (talk • contribs)

Your source is obviously biased, and the source news articles do not reference any "Christian Terrorists" or anything of the sort. You are twisting these items into polemic --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 08:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey Scaife. Thanks for reverting the anon on Arunachal Pradesh. He/she continues to make un-cited claims that the "Baptist Church has been leading a forceful and violent conversion agenda". I've tried talking with them, but they have just ignored me. Notice that he/she reverted again. What should I do? --Khoikhoi 08:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I reverted and warned him again. If he reverts, I'll move to have him blocked. You're right that it is vandalism. Sorry for the inconvenience. Cheers! --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 08:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm still pretty sure If I'd be able to break the 3RR here. Let's see what happens first however. --Khoikhoi 08:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

3RR doesn't matter when it involved vandalism. Cheers! --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 08:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to my life! --Khoikhoi 08:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Is it time to report yet? --Khoikhoi 08:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks man, for taking the load off my back. ;) --Khoikhoi 09:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. --09:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What?

Clear what?--Dakota ~ ° 09:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Removed 2. Yours are clear.--Dakota ~ ° 09:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islam

Hey, just wanted to give you a heads up that your edit to Islam could have used a little more in-depth analysis than what you gave. Using Popups, you reverted to a similarly vandalized version of the page. This was probably more dangerous to the content of the article because people might have already assumed later on that you covered all the vandalism done by that IP user. In the future, I suggest you really get into the page history or use Popups more wisely. Thanks, JHMM13 (T | C) 19:18, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry you took it that way, but what would you have rather had? I told you what the problem was, why that problem was a problem, and a suggestion for the future. I don't feel I was speaking down to you, but I'm not going to leave out information I would tell any other user in this circumstance just because you've been around longer or made the mistake before. If you make a mistake, you deserve precisely the same "warning" (for lack of a better word) as someone who made that same mistake with their first edit. JHMM13 (T | C) 19:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] George W. Bush/Worst Actor Razzie

As I posted on Mhking's talk page, if you are unsure of his win for this award, you can verify it here. If you removed it for another reason I am curious to know why.--Fallout boy 03:49, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kurd stub

Have you seen?

• Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion#.7B.7BKurd-politician-stub.7D.7D_.2F_Cat:Kurdish_politician_stubs

--Mais oui! 06:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your question

Done as speedy-vandalism. Thanks for warning the uploader.--Dakota ~ ° 07:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Khomeini

Thanks. Based on the fact the user uploaded this image I think it's pretty much a fact now that he is anti-Khomeini. --Khoikhoi 09:01, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again! I've never seen that WP:RFI page before, pretty useful. --Khoikhoi 03:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Poloyoe

Are you handling this case? --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 13:16, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm just about to block him for 3RR. Stifle 13:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Cheers. Most of the sysops logged of flast night and it seemed as soon as an article was deleted, he'd recreate it. I appreciate it, hopefully next time "cooler heads will prevail." --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 13:21, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiDefcon 1

Hello! FYI, the WikiDefcon 1 is reserved for really extreme cases of vandalism. If you feel that there is some increase of activity (I did a quick check with CDVF and couldn't spot it) it rather qualifies as 4. 3 and 2 are used when Wikipedia is assaulted by massive attack by automated/bot attack (such as SQUIDWARD). Finally, I don't know if level 1 (formerly known as "Overwhelming level of vandalism. Database lock recommended.") was ever legitimately called. Thus, I have reverted it back to 5. Please be careful in judging the situation in future not to cause unnecessary panic. Thank you, Misza13 ^{T C} 13:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dick Cheney

I am curious as to why you altered the change I made to the Dick Cheney page, the information I gave was truthful and I did not intend to vandalize anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.131.152.91 (talk • contribs)

Because shooting someone in the face is not a hobby, maybe? --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 20:42, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

Thanks for your anti-vandalism work, and the correct warning of users. May I ask you subst: templates. For example: {{subst:test1}}. This is standard convention, and means the page is not effected by template edits, and it also puts less strain on the servers. Thanks and good luck! Ian13/talk 22:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your question

It is blocked for awhile no need now.--Dakota ~ ° 22:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Mohammed's sexual orientation

Yes, I thought Mohammed's sexual orientation was worthy of speedy deletion. But an admin (with nearly 10,000) removed the template when I put it there. joturner 06:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh well, we'll see what happens. I have already delt with this on Khomeini. Its getting rediculous. --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 06:02, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm an admin now!!

Thanks for voting on my RFA and helping me become an admin. The final tally was 108-0-1 (putting me on the WP:100 list. I hope to do my best in upholding the integrity of Wikipedia. Thanks again, Gator (talk) 13:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 216.38.176.18

Hi,

The anon had actually already been warned for blanking your page quite a while before you delivered a warning. I wanted to let you know because I feel as though the {{test4}} was unjustified, since a warning for that behavior had already been delivered. I also think that since s/he had acknowledged that blanking your page was an inappropriate response, it was probably time for a carrot, not a stick -- giving that anon a final warning is less likely to result in a good dialogue between the two of you, should s/he decide to discuss your revert of those POV edits.

No offense meant, just sharing my point of view on the matter. I'd be happy to discuss this more if you'd like to do so.

Hbackman 00:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

TEST Scaife ^(Talk) 19:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DPT

I have moved to strike the tags on DPT. Ultramarine has descended to misrepresenting the text of the article. Do you second? do you want a tag for over-emphasis on Ray? What? Septentrionalis 17:35, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Please note this on Talk:DPT#Tired, for the record; also see the tag Ultramarine keeps adding to R. J. Rummel#Democratic peace, on the same vacuous grounds. Septentrionalis 04:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand what you'd like me to do. --Scaife ^(Talk) 04:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Please either remove the tags from DPT, or state on Talk:democratic peace theory#Tired what tags you would consider justified; so we can have this discussion all in one place. Septentrionalis 15:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Libertarians and the DPT

Hi. I saw your comments regarding libertarians and the DPT. This may be a misunderstanding, I am not a libertarian. I support relatively high taxes in order redistribute wealth. Nor are most, if any, of the pro-DPT researchers libertarians. I think that some form of democracy is supported by most groups, except for extreme right-wing groups, like Nazis. Many libertarians vehemently oppose any form of democracy, many advocate anarcho-capitalism and some even argue that a Monarchy is better than democracy. In contrast, many of the explanations for the DPT can easily be extended to the form of direct democracy advocated by left-wing groups. Many of the explanations would work even better in a direct democracy, so the DPT may even be an argument for more direct democracy as advocated by left-wing groups. Ultramarine 23:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree that there may be a misunderstanding. Ray does have quite a bit of libertarian ideas in his work, and I have projected these on to you for that I am sorry. --Scaife ^(Talk) 23:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

See [5] and [6]. These studies argue that more participatory and decentralized institutions produces a stronger democratic peace. Ultramarine 23:58, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

The most belligerent democracies, like the United States and the United Kingdom, do not have a proportional representation but instead a two-party system and a very strong leader. Many European nations have a proportional system, arguably more democratic, and are less belligerent. Ultramarine 00:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Rummel, however, was an extreme libertarian; some of the contributions to his ariicle claim that he has changed position markedly. Septentrionalis 03:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Rummel, as most libertarians, got wiser. Although he strongly opposes communism, his research regarding democide can also easily be used by socialists. If there had been democracy in the Communist states, there would have been no democide and no terror. Scaife, you seem to be an intelligent person and maybe even an utilitarian like I. The DPT is one of the best arguments against various right-wing extremists, including libertarians, and may easily be a socialist argument. Septentrionalis have had several earlier supporters who have abandoned him as they got to know him better. I regularly now have good discussions with one his former strongest socialist supporters, user:Nikodemos. I would be very happy if we could do the same.Ultramarine 05:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I am puzzled and amused that you continually mistake Septentrionalis for a socialist. I find it absurd that after all our discussion that you fail to perceive that both he and I would be pleased as punch if we could be assured that a reasonably strong form of DPT is true. That bias is, however, ample reason for us to ensure that the article is as NPOV as possible and that the limitations of the theory are adequately discussed. Robert A.West (Talk) 06:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure what Septentrionalis is. But he is certainly systematically trying to hide the advantages of democracy, something advocated by all except the extreme right. Ultramarine 06:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I am surprised that contrarian hasn't occurred to you -- don't let people become comfortable in the conventional wisdom. When people start claiming that democracy cures cancer, he will point out their errors. Long ago, when people were singing the praises of communism, he was unmerciful to them. Robert A.West (Talk) 06:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Now this is interesting: both Septentrionalis and Robert A West has created and co-edited many articles about Baron West and Earl De La Warr. An old aristocratic family, who like the rest of the aristocracy lost their class privileges when democracy was introduced. Ultramarine 15:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Why the ad hominem attack snipe? I have never denied that I knew Septentrionalis long before Wikipedia was a gleam in Jimbo's eye. We share some interests, and some opinions, but not others. He has better access to scholarly resources than I, and sometimes helps me out when I don't have a source to hand, and I asked him to check my facts on the articles on West/De La Warr because of the obvious potential for bias. Speaking of which, you should do a smidgen of research before you make snide remarks: the Wests who remained in England accomodated themselves well to parliamentary democracy as it grew, and those who came to America were long removed from artistocratic privileges when they fought in the American Revolution.

You may, however, appreciate the standard joke that I use when someone notes (often with embarrassment) that an ancestor was a horse-thief or some such: "At least your forebears were honest thieves. Mine were noblemen." Robert A.West (Talk) 17:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I, however, descend from peasants of various nationalities. This may in part explain the limited use I have for nationalist (and transferred nationalist) warcries on Wikipedia. I would prefer to ascribe it to loyalty to the Republic of Letters; my patriotism is also "this side idolatry". Septentrionalis 19:24, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Ultramarine has had two guesses at what axe I am grinding on DPT: I'm a Communist (still traceable on User:Ultramarine; and I'm a blood-sucking nostalgic reactionary supporter of the thieving nobles. I could get into that one ;->, but both are wrong. Would he care to try again? A Utilitarian should find this one easy; it's one thing Popper and Mill have in common. Septentrionalis 06:16, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

He is now suggesting I'm an anarchist, because he wanted to claim that anarchocommunists support democracy. I happen to have read Goldman, Berkman, Le Guin, and William Morris, so I found this simplistic and said so. For more, see user;infinity0's messages on his talk page. He's still wrong. Septentrionalis 04:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Err..Scaife? We seem to have hijacked your talk page. I hope you don't mind. Robert A.West (Talk) 20:42, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

You kids go ahead, I am studying for Comps, so I am a bit busy right now, I am enjoying reading the exchange during my breaks. --Scaife ^(Talk) 04:02, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

That's just a tad busy, as I recall. Best of luck. Septentrionalis 18:03, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Hey Scaife, I'd really like thank you for taking the time to vote at my RfA. I withdrew due to certain controversies, but I appreciated your vote and hope to see you here in the future. Thanks again. --Khoikhoi 05:15, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bremer's 1993 paper

I see I didn't respond to your last comment on this, some while ago. Don't worry, I have a hard copy through ILL. The reason I wanted it is that Ray quotes it directly, and I wanted to see context. Septentrionalis 03:56, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union

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[edit] Your response is requested

A request for peer review on the article regarding Democratic Peace Theory has come to my attention. I am interested in helping. I am willing to act either as a reviewer or as a mediator. I have posted a comment on the talk page for Democratic Peace Theory. I invite you to respond and let me know how I can help with this article (an article that seems important but is in somewhat bad shape). --Blue Tie 03:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Welcome back

I see you have begun to edit again. How did you do on Comps? Septentrionalis 18:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

What in particular did you have in mind? The userbox insanity seems to be dying down. Septentrionalis 21:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Austria rugby logo.gif

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Hi Scaife, please see additional commentary here:

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I have now agreed that the photo ought to be deleted, at least for now. The copyright situation is unclear.

Thanks, best wishes, Richard Myers (talk) 02:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Modified, Richard Myers (talk) 06:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)