Talk:Scarborough North Bay Railway
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[edit] Cleethorpes Coast Light Railway operates the SNBR
Just to clarify some reversions I've made recently:
This page makes it clear that the Cleethorpes Light Railway has the lease for the railway for ten years. If there is any information to the contrary, please cite it rather than removing it. Also the above link seems to be the official website of the railway - www.nbr.org.uk is merely a pointer to a Fotopic site. Although relevant to the page, it should not be used for reference purposes. – Tivedshambo (talk) 15:44, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- The Cleethorpes Coast Light Railway website appears to have removed references to Scarborough, and the promotional literature published this year by the North Bay Railway, has no mention of Cleethorpes. [[1]] is now the official site of the railway.Svitapeneela (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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- I'd noticed the nbr website had been taken over by the railway. I don't know why the CLR have removed their references to the SNBR, but the article in Steam Railway (which you quoted here) remains as the only citable evidence one way or the other. — Tivedshambo (t/c) 21:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Agreed. Even if CCLR have removed their SNBR references from their website, it isn't our place to try and guess what that might mean. We must be guided only by the hard evidence, and at present the evidence supports the current form of the article. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 08:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
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The CCLR is a seperate company from the NBR company, and at the time, was acting as a temporary web page for the NBR. Now that the NBR has its own website, there is no need for this other page. The railway has always been owned by the North Bay Railway Company Peterbrynt (talk) 16:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Accident
I don't have the details to hand, but there was an accident early in the trains life that left an engineer dead, does anyone have any further information?
[edit] New Locomotive
A new locomotive has been introduced to the railway, but is not recorded here in the article. There are references on the company's website, and also on the Scarborough Borough Council website, to "three" new locomotives having been introduced since privatisation. We have recorded two of them (1933 and 570), but not the third. As I don't know the identity of this third new engine, I can't update the article. Can anyone else help? Timothy Titus Talk To TT 15:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think the third new locomotive is a typo. Although there are plenty of developments happening in the North Bay, an extra engine isn't one of them (unless it is not on site yet).Svitapeneela (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
The third locomotive is certainly not a typo! A 18inch gauge Clayton 4wBE arrived from the Bowes Railway Summer 2007, and although not currently running, is at the railway. I will add the details to the main page, and the website. Peterbrynt (talk) 16:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cleethorpes Light Railway
I see the reference to Cleethorpes Light Railway has yet again been removed, by an anonymous Single-purpose account. Is there someone with a grudge against the CLR, or is it someone who has some information that they are not disclosing? Either way, I will continue to revert unless someone can provide some reason to delete this information, or has a better solution. — Tivedshambo (t/c) 19:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Tivedshambo, for reverting this once again. It is really getting very annoying. If there has been some change in the original arrangement with CLR (I have NOT heard of any such change) then someone should be able to produce evidence of it. It is a mystery to me why some anonymous person is so keen to keep on removing all references to CLR. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 16:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
In reply to the above, the railway is not owned by the Cleethorpes Coast Light Railway and never has been, and by a completely different company, the North Bay Railway Company. Therefore, it is right that the CCLR link has been removed. Peterbrynt (talk) 15:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- The CCLR has a ten year lease to operate the Scarborough North Bay Railway. This was confirmed in the railway press at the time, and on the CCLR website. See the internet archive of the CCLR website. — Tivedshambo (t/c) 16:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
So, Mr Tivesdshambo, sorry that the truth has got in the way of a story. 'If it is reported, it must be true' just like on Wiki. The fact that my wife and I are the major shareholders in the railway and perhaps Chris Shaw, who also owns CCLR is a shareholder, has nothing to do with reality. Sorry, that you know better than the people who pay the bills to keep the railway alive. David and Lesley Humphreys. See www.nbr.org.uk news section for whom we are. 86.144.4.132 (talk) 16:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Page now edited with correct details and reference. Thanks Peterbrynt (talk) 16:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- See discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK_Railways#Scarborough North Bay Railway — Tivedshambo (t/c) 17:12, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
