User talk:SatuSuro/Archive 34
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[edit] WA Portal
I'd be happy to help out where I can, though I've never been to WA, it's a job probably best left to you locals. "Good on ya" for taking the initiative to keep the portal updated. Local content can only attract more local editors who in turn might create more local content, so in the end, we can hope something positive is acheived. Cheers. -- Longhair\talk 08:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] oggle
oggle hits and banksias - nah there are sure to be the earlier described but vanished variety out there somewhere that dont even get onto oggle! Im out! SatuSuro 12:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Since that day I was bored and decided to count google hits, Mast and Thiele have transferred Dryandra into Banksia. So the number of species has more than doubled. Rich pickings for further obscurity. ;-) Hesperian 12:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Birds
Thanks. Its a very mind-numbing labour intensive job I work on occasionally when I'm bored and have some spare time. When its finished it'll look great but is going to take forever sadly. Feel free to do a few.
I got a nice email from Kevin at the ZigZag website and hopefully he'll send me some more gradient data. —Moondyne 00:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gastro delights
Image:Gastrolobium 01 gnangarra.JPG As it happens yeah I do will upload in the coming days, but not sure on species. Though I dont have any images from 1840's only recently taken ones. Gnangarra 01:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Good one-I was reading an article, by Sid Shea, which stated that Southwest Australia has an immensely toxic environment. If not for our microbial friends, the place would be uninhabitable. This lot cracked a special mention. You should DYK it, what was the term for when cattle were poisoned by it? Cygnis insignis 03:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- http://www.cpbr.gov.au/cgi-bin/wintab is useful for resolving any taxonomic palaver. Further reading: Chandler, G.R., Crisp, M.D., Cayzer, L.W. & Bayer, R.J. (2002) Monograph of Gastrolobium (Fabaceae: Mirbelieae). Australian Systematic Botany 15(5) Cygnis insignis 04:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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- presume I have id the right plant for the gastro article, FYI its was taken at Ellis Brook reserve again. Gnangarra 13:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- (intruding from the east) it appears to be Daviesia cordata (Bookleaf) [1][2] Melburnian 13:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
no problems intruding, this image from the stirling range probable is then after looking thru flora base. Gnangarra 14:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm not too sure on ID for that one --Melburnian 02:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- Where are the specimens? Are they at hand, or images? When should I up that way? Cygnis insignis 01:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] W/Shield
It was awful heh, but at least you can understand it now. Needs some more referencing though. —Moondyne 07:32, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cats
Which Categories do you have problems with that i created ? Boylo 11:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Leading paragraphs
SatuSuro - I have read your changes in the pages you mentioned (history and awards sections). Thank you for fixing these up. When I started working on wikipedia it was a bit of trial and error and I know that I should go back and maintain some of the earlier pages worked on. In a little while I will be going back to work on literature and biographies again and will remember your suggestions. Regards Stellar 13:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I'm butting in on this interesting conversation because I've been interested in the issue of lead paragraphas and have been doing some work on them - on my articles and on others I've come across. Links and citations are interesting points. My daughter told me recently that you are not supposed to have citations in your essay introductions and I've been wondering about this issue with lead paras. The thing is that with lead paras you need to make some claims about importance and sometimes you need to cite that. I regularly look at feature articles to resolve some style issue I have and I (usually) only get more confused because invariably they differ!! I guess the thing is to have a reason for what you do and be prepared to discuss it?? Sterry2607 00:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ceram Sea
Thanks. Jlittlet 03:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Remarks
No ! I am not interested in corresponding with you anymore, and that post was directed to Orderinchaos, who adopted me, so speak with him regarding this. If your not happy with my work on Wikipedia, then I am no longer interested in your remarks to me. Boylo 03:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Category:Hobart events
Do you think this category could do with a better title, such as Vistor attractions in Hobart, Festivals in Hobart or similar? -- Longhair\talk 05:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- Hanns Johst has the answer to who said that line btw... -- Longhair\talk 05:19, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bl'adder creek
One of the few that did. Have a look at the Leon Pericles painting at the state ref. Cygnis insignis 05:26, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WA challenge
Feel up to a challenge? Let's see if you can re-sort those articles within Category:Western Australia into relevant subcategories. Some of those articles sit idle there simply because they have no sub-category to go to. -- Longhair\talk 12:56, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- We've only got a pile half the size to sort back home at Category:Victoria :) -- Longhair\talk 12:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
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I notice that page move in your contribs. Was that the only one you found? Strange. A stuttering keyboard at work it seems... -- Longhair\talk 14:26, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
- Category:Mid-importance Australian maritime history articles didn't exist at all. I've created that one. -- Longhair\talk 14:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 24.34.163.213
When I visited wikipedia using a different browser (Switching from an old version of Opera to 9.5 beta), I found this message sitting in my IP's discussion: " Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.SatuSuro 00:33, 14 September 2007 (UTC)"
I'm not the only one using this IP, and when I make changes I make them under my username (Shardz). I'll hunt around the house for the culprit. Could you point me in the right direction of the bad edits so I can get to the bottom of this? Thanks --Shardz 18:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, the thing was I had changed browsers from Flock to Opera (so I could syncronize between OS's [Gentoo, Ubuntu, Windows XP]). For the most part I'm logged in, it was just then that I noticed it (since I had yet to add all my accounts to Opera.) I'll get everyone using this IP to register and login before making edits, so that we can track down who's making bad changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shardz (talk • contribs) 22:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC) I tracked it down. It was my little sister. There's talk in the family about moving to Perth,_Western_Australia. I'll make sure she doesn't mess anything else up again. --Shardz 22:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gödel
- to explain the first sentence of the last para of this section caught my eye and I thought of your associations instantly. Gnangarra 13:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Another
[edit] Gastro II
Yes one started, 108 to go. Next one from me G. praemorsum. Not sure on secondary sources for bio, others would know better than I. Hopefully, we can get some more Gastro photos during the current flowering season. --Melburnian 02:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WA map
Heh, thanks for the Heisenberg. I'm sure I'll one day come close to understanding what you wrote on my talk page there. :) - Mark 12:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Perth and music
A category is probably the best way of dealing with the music groups but some editors like to see a list. As the list at present doesn't offer much context, it will be interesting to see if it survives but perhaps someone will adopt it and bring it up to speed. At the least, it has now been removed from the main article and perhaps without the list editors will not be "inspired" to add more bands to the article (I am probably over optimistic.) -- Mattinbgn\ talk —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 00:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up with have a look Dan arndt 01:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Someloves
I was hoping that you could help me as one of the articles I have posted has recently had a copyright voilation notice posted on it and I cannot for the life of me work out how this article is a copyright violation as it doesn't resemble the reference cited 'All Music Guide' at all - the basic facts are the same but thats only becuase they are historical and not in dispute. If there was anythign that even faintly represented a copyright violation of that reference I would be happy to correct it but I honestly can't work it out. I was going to put in some references to the quotes used in the article but find myself unable and the article about to be deleted. Is there some process that I can question the posting of the copyright violation notice?Dan arndt 06:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Have posted a note on Moondyne's talk page - just concerned as the notice says the article is to be deleted however as the original creator I was never notified. Dan arndt 06:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC) by the way was able to decypher your other comments and put my comments on the talk page. Dan arndt 06:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] sci fi and crime
SatuSuro - I am planning to find the information already in wiki and fix that up first. There is already a category for Aust crime writers. Science fiction is an almost empty field. It is easy to get distracted with this wiki hobby. I keep doing this and that and then not having enough time to read! I am off to read a book now... Stellar 13:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism :-)
Well if you don't want to have to just watch the vandals, you know what I'd suggest ;-) ... WjBscribe 00:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 'elloe
Yeah, sounds good. What about somme Emily Pelloe [3] for a art later? Cygnis insignis 02:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Statistics
[4] Why just a cat? Can't have a nice project banner as well? —Moondyne 11:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Communications in Indonesia for collab?
Hi SatuSuro/Archive 34, Communications in Indonesia currently has the most votes for the next collab but I think we should agree on a direction for the article before we make it the collab. In the meantime I will post Sutan Sjahrir as next fortnight's collab. As one of the nominators, can you please put your thoughts on Talk:Communications in Indonesia? Many thanks. --Merbabu 09:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Antarctica banner
For what it's worth, some projects do place categories at various levels of importance, although I personally don't know why. Anyway, I think that might have been the reason used in arranging the banner as it is. But I see your point, and have no objections to the change, unless someone does state that they think certain categories should be of importance in and of themselves. John Carter 15:06, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know how to change it in exactly that way. We could however just change all the non-article pages to NA class, which would probably be the preferable alterntive anyway. John Carter 15:14, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- You didn't make a fuss, you pointed out a legitimate concern. Anyway, I'm kinda tired at looking at football players right now and welcome the change. John Carter 15:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Generals
Happy thwarting! I was very surprised to see there are so few articles about these people. Regards Davidelit 07:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cheery-o
Thanks the the notey. What was i thinking? not even i know. Twenty Years 11:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- I will more than definately take up your offer, but some time in the future, for i am somewhat busy atm. Thanks alot for the help. Twenty Years 11:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: As for
I'm all over your watchlist like a rash hey? :) -- Longhair\talk 09:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rice
I need more clue. — Indon (reply) — 07:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Menzies
Thanks again for that. Unfortunately, you were right in predicting that I wouldn't be able to make much of it. This is the best I could do. Cygnis would fare no better for Verticordia.
It might come in useful elsewhere though. This is a reference a collection of a Musk Duck. Whether it was the first such collection, or otherwise significant, I wouldn't know:
"... we saw some curious ducks — I shot one of a dark grey colour with a wattle pendulous from the under side of its bill which induced me to name it Anas carunculata."
Hesperian 13:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Over there
Agreed - been pretty quiet in the Apple Isle. Maybe the phone line across Bass Strait is out? Seriously, I used to live 15 mins walk up the hill from the Myer store and shopped there quite a few times - sad to see its gone. Zamphuor 12:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Comment on my talk page
I'm not entirely sure that I fully comprehend the comment you left on my talk page. Regarding the general questions, are there any individuals who are interested in project management, I know of several, but most of them, by User:Kirill Lokshin and User:Titoxd, have reasonably tried to limit their activities to the specific projects with which they are most closely affiliated, specifically WP:MILHIST and WP:TROP. There are some other individuals who do a great deal of work with their own projects, but not many that expend a great deal of effort beyond that field. Regarding the larger question of whether there are individuals interested in wikiproject management in gneral, my answer would be that if there are, they're fairly good at hiding, because I've not seen much evidence of them. The question regarding an "off your talk page a space where like persons explain ideas" is one I don't clearly comprehend, so I won't try to answer. I also don't think that as far as I know thare is any particular special group which to date offers to help "maintain" projects, although the new Wikipedia:WikiProject recruitment for WikiProjects right now looks to come closest to that idea, and could potentially be expanded to include general project management. Right now, though, I don't think there are enough parties involved or really interesteed to make that more than a vague possibility. If you would like to propose such a group, though, or would like to see one proposed, I would be more than happy to do what I can to see if we can get together enough people to give it a go. John Carter 15:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- That is why i call it a recruitment project. Recruiting is the most important thing.--Daanschr 19:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Recruitment project
Welcome on board El Greco,
I have scheduled two kinds of tasks for the moment:
- Organize the management department in order to make recruitment possible for WikiProjects.
- Recruiting new participants who can help organizing the management department.
Also, i am thinking about a namechange. Instead of Wikipedia:WikiProject recruitment for WikiProjects, it would be better to call it Wikipedia:Recruitment for WikiProjects.--Daanschr 18:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Could you give some feedback about the text of the introduction. I think it is to complicated, (see Wikipedia:WikiProject recruitment for WikiProjects#Management).--Daanschr 09:26, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
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- wah malu sekali (pardon my indonesian) I hadnt realised I was being rude to another editor - my problem is I havent read through yours and Johns and el greco comments on the project talk page carefully enough yet - I need to see where you folks are coming from on all of this - I come from having tagged articles ( I just dislike red 'discussion tags at the tope of pages so much - it is a sign of an orphan article or category for a start )
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and sheer disbelief that others have not sufficiently engineered their projects to have assessment geared in - this is where in the australia project - cj and longhair are brilliant in their helping setting up subdsidiary projects to the parent australia project - generous and clever to boot! SatuSuro 09:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Satu, my conversation with Astrohurricane says a lot about where i come from: User talk:Daanschr#Re:Wikiproject.--Daanschr 09:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] wandering the darling scarp
Thank you for your note, it was very nice :) Comte0 19:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thank you, SatuSoro
Thank you very much for your 'welcome' and your good suggestions that I'll follow through. Powderbark2 00:41, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] sessilis
The article is a very long way away from being so good that it can't be improved by a couple of unreferenced sentences. You go for it; I'll let you know if/when I'm ready to become the citation police. Hesperian 11:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Cavanagh (2006), page 39–40:
"Another characteristic Dryandra association is the Dryandra "thicket". These are dense stands of dryandras, often of one or a restricted number of species which shed prolific amounts of seeds annually. These seeds have a high viability and often germinate rapidly after favourable rains. The seedlings grow quickly and may suppress other species in time, unless the area is burnt relatively frequently. Their spread is often assisted by disturbance of an area. An example is the widespread Parrot-bush (Dryandra sessilis) which on the limestones of the Swan Coastal Plain forms thickets, especially in areas which are not frequently burnt. These dense stands are of much value to beekeepers because of the large quantities of nectar the flowers produce."
Hesperian 12:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Read
but do we actually have to do as well? Gnangarra 05:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- ok i was being vague and it lost momentum because it was in response to you last edit summary before logging out earlier diff Gnangarra 13:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, after cleaning the category, I ended up with a lot of articles, some with the template, and some without; so that's why I forgot. I wrote a script and left some 170 references on my user page to be done, I'll probably make a bot request later, after checking all those links. Regards, Comte0 22:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Formatting issues
Hi SatuSuro, thanks for the advice, but I don't really understand what your problem was. The only formatting I used was the newspaper stub from templates. Perhaps you can explain.Jsimpson1100 12:06, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] powderbark2 again
Thanks SatuSuro. Please refer my user page (note: this suggestion is low priority).Powderbark2 03:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- horns was just responding to his greenhorn comment, as the appology on my talk page i dont even know whats its for. As for the RS I didnt get a chance to increase the mortgage so kinder have missed out Gnangarra 03:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- I was indicating they provided supplementary evidence for a contention already made. I'm well aware of the errors in said publications :) Orderinchaos 04:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Mundaring
Cool. I've also been majorly distracted by lots of random things around the wiki - I haven't done much on Australian articles lately besides a fixup on Kambalda. Anyway, you've gotta love drive-by vandals - I seem to have unwittingly reverted one just then. Graham87 14:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Catch
Yup. Got funnier when you dig and dig. :-) — Indon (reply) — 15:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bars
Huh? —Moondyne 15:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- I just realised it doesn't display properly with Internet Explorer which I guess is what you're using. With Firefox it looks fine. I'll try to look at it later but am heavily committed elsewhere for most of today. —Moondyne 03:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Done. —Moondyne 08:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] I don't understand
Please explain clearly what your issue is. Also you haven't been clear as to why it should be called "Tamar Valley Pulp Mill" and not "Bell Bay". I don't really see the issue. Please don't say "see my comments elsewhere". I simply don't see what the issue is. —Pengo 00:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- There's a huge amount of info missing from the pulp mill article and related articles (e.g. the Tamar Valley, Tasmania article is just a stub, with nothing on the Tamar Estuary, and many particular issues of the mill have not been named). I don't see the usefulness in bickering on the margins/talk pages when there's so much to add to the articles proper -- which are in a very sorry state. You could easily add three cited statements for every naming squibble you can win or delay. Please help by adding to the articles themselves! —Pengo 00:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WIN Television
OK, I will cease my reverts/edit war until Stickylabel enters the discussion arena. The editor who created the schedule took it off WIN Illawarra and South Coast's website, and it is different for the other O&O stations. Auroranorth 12:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- He, he. Yes, I am still waiting! Auroranorth 12:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Remember I cannot edit project namespace articles. However, I believe we need somebody not affiliated with the TV project here. Auroranorth 12:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Removal of comments
I have removed your last comments because I corrected the Userpage Template and REMOVED the Radio station categories. Kathleen.wright5 12:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bali Sea (sic)
It's well-covered at talk:Battle of Makassar Strait, hehe. The logic is wrong-headed but easy to follow: "well, the Dutch colonial admin called it Balizee, and a literal translation of that is 'Bali Sea'..." Bzzt! Nope, not in English. Grant | Talk 16:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] You're right...
Here a daftar, there a daftar (yang memang "aneh"), everywhere a daftar. --Merbabu 03:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Talk:WIN Television
Hi SatuSuro, let me know what you think of my most recent contribution. Hope I haven't overstepped. Cheers, WikiTownsvillian 10:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] West Australian Wild Flowers
Can you easily put your hands on the 1935 West Australian Wild Flowers? I've scanned (but not yet uploaded) an Edgar Dell plate of B. sessilis (a.k.a. Dryandra sessilis a.k.a. Dryandra floribunda) from the 1959 Wildflowers of Western Australia. I suspect it also appears in the '35, and would like confirmation. Hesperian 12:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers. Hesperian 12:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Never mind; thanks for looking. It seems even Henrietta doesn't have a first edition. Hesperian 13:10, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Tomorrow I hope to track down a copy of the 1961 issue of Australian Plants (June or September, not sure which) in which it was featured. Hesperian 13:15, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Excellent. I've got to log off - should have done so an hour ago, as I have a disrupted night ahead, a very early morning and a big day. Will pick up the gmail discussion tomorrow. Hesperian 13:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Tomorrow I hope to track down a copy of the 1961 issue of Australian Plants (June or September, not sure which) in which it was featured. Hesperian 13:15, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Never mind; thanks for looking. It seems even Henrietta doesn't have a first edition. Hesperian 13:10, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Aussie film
Well no there doesn't appear to be any communication from User:Longhair for breaking up the film cateogries. If he also "showed respect" he would have let other Aussie project members know about it and certainly let WP Films know his intentions but he didn't he just went ahead and continued with his 1 million edits on wikipedia . Reverting this is no different. Longhair has done some great work for wikipedia for a long time but he should have contacted both projects before messing it up The Wild West guy 14:33, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes I am also sorry we had to meet this way. Beleive me I would rather not have to waste time reverting either when it could have been discussed in advance and a project decision made involving both Australia and WP Films before large scale changes were made initally. All the best The Wild West guy 14:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
OK thanks anyway. I beleive both edits by Longhair and myself were done in good faith but all I say is it definately should have been discussed first with the projects. I know Longhair is a good and respected editor but even he needs to discuss with the project of he makes large scale changes. Respect and regards The Wild West guy 15:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Seems a bit of a fuss here. I'm sure we can get this sorted out between both projects it involves. Definately discussion by consensus from my experience is the key before major changes are made by either Longhair or Wild West guy , but both editors clearly had a right to do what they thought was best and were most likely acting in good faith I don;t see any malicious intent. It should have been a joint decision with the Australia project and Films I believe. Saludos amigo. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 15:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure it'll be sorted. Not a good idea to make major changes without consensus . Hey you ought to see my User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/Gallery. I'm really into Bollywood women -I am gonna create a fit woman gallery. LOL! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 15:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Indian Pacific
I DO understand that "trans is the track, pacific is the train", but would prefer that that difference is described in one article. Two just confuse the reader. Could you comment on the talk page please? —Moondyne 15:10, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bali Sea, Balizee and Laut Bali
This is why if people don't understand about a language and making his/her own judgment about anglicisation. It's just a translation and consistency issue there. Should I propose a new move discussion to get consensus? — Indon (reply) — 01:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oops, I just heard our friend stated that "there is no Bali Sea, but only Laut Bali" in the Talk:Battle of Makassar Strait. (??). — Indon (reply) — 01:06, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
--Starstylers 04:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)Italic text
[edit] Prabowo Subianto
Honestly, this article is dreadful. The dasar wong singke (wong cino) and the bourgeoisie Mahasiswa2 have attacked it with their intellectual paucity and dogmata once again and made it a total character assassination and polemic. As a Jakarta resident and son-in-law to unnamed serving Javanese politician I actually KNOW as opposed to speculate about Wiranto AND Prabowo and the political manoeveurings of Habibie-Wiranto-Clinton-Cohen versus the Reagan-Bush era Prabowo-Suharto. It is totally ridiculous- there is nothing substantiating aside from hearsay, speculation and gossip. Furthermore,m I sincerely doubt whether obviously politically biased reportage can be suitably admissible as corroborating reference texts- most especially the ludicrous drivel of the NGO's.
[edit] Horderns Railway
While working on info for Alfred Sandover I was looking at corresdondence (suggested by your mistress at SLWA) by William Sandover(Alfreds brother) to his father William Sandover(SA politician), any way this referred to Horderns Railway do you know anything about this and how the Sandovers are involved. Gnangarra 06:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikimania
I have already put the idea to WT:WA. That's all I am going to say for now. Auroranorth 10:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oops. I moved the discussion from WT:WA to WT:PERTH after I saw discussion had already occurred there. Auroranorth 10:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- WM and WP are separate (although related) enterprises, and involvement in it is entirely voluntary and not mandated by simply happening to live in a place and being part of the local community. It's more likely than not that a majority of our support crew would be either not from Perth, or from Perth but not from our community. Similarly if Melbourne makes a bid I'd support it from here and probably fly over and assist when it's on. Orderinchaos 11:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- What sort of issues? (Email if you prefer) Orderinchaos 11:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- WM and WP are separate (although related) enterprises, and involvement in it is entirely voluntary and not mandated by simply happening to live in a place and being part of the local community. It's more likely than not that a majority of our support crew would be either not from Perth, or from Perth but not from our community. Similarly if Melbourne makes a bid I'd support it from here and probably fly over and assist when it's on. Orderinchaos 11:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rotto
I think it's actually pretty good. Gotta go soon, it's dinner time ... Graham87 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 10:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere
Doesn't look too bad to me. Wait till the Japanese nationalists spot it. Then there will be fun and games. Grant | Talk 12:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] You've been around a long time
Two and a half years of great editing and that's why I am giving you this.--Sandahl 00:22, 10 October 2007 (UTC)}}
[edit] 3 months
Until I get to that point. Glad you liked the barnstar. :)--Sandahl 05:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Labor Right or Katter for Kennedy?
You sometimes speak in such riddles I have no idea what you're talking about :P WikiTownsvillian 13:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Translation given at users talk page SatuSuro 14:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] After that foray into the sanctum the other night
(I saw that change) - I have about 10 to 20 items with the name with close variants 'wildflowers of western australia' - probably will put it up as a (stub) before i go east next week SatuSuro 13:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm interested in tracking the history of its cultivation. Would like to know what the following books have to say about it:
Newbey, K. West Australian wildflowers for horticulture - Can access this one myself.I've got this one now.Fairall, West Australian native plants in cultivation - I will have to go to Battye to get this one.Received, thanks.Lord, Shrubs and trees for Australian gardens - any and all editions; I suspect '70 may be the first edition to cover Dryandra. I can only easily access the '64 edition. Battye has '50, '64, '70 and '81. Serendipity Books has '77, but I don't like the price.I've seen '67 and '70, and it isn't really worth pursuing any further.- Rogers Growing Australian native plants and Growing more Australian native plants. Battye has the first of these.
- Elliot & Jones Encyclopaedia of Australian plants - gazillions of editions; I'm not quite sure how to handle this one.
- Johnson & Burchett, Native Australian Plants: Horticulture and Uses - Battye has it, but I'm not sure if it covers Dryandra.
- There's also Lothian & Holliday Growing Australian Plants, but again I'm not sure if it covers Dryandra.
- There was a brief article on Dryandra by Elliott in '73 Your Garden 26(5). Battye has it in the tec stack, but I don't know if I can be bothered pursuing it.
- I've got a copy of the recent Growing Locals, which might have something too.
- If you've got any of these on your shelves, a scan of any info on sessilis would be super-duper. Hesperian 23:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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- There's also Blombery ('55) Native Australian plants: their propagation and cultivation.
- Morcombe, Australia's Western Wildflowers.
- There's also Blombery ('55) Native Australian plants: their propagation and cultivation.
Can you pull out your June '61 Australian Plants again please? For some reason the Dryandra stuff is on pages 1 to 8, which you've already sent, then there's some other crap on pages 9 to 11, and the real gold is on pages 12 to 14. Hesperian 04:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC) Received, thanks.
- It's okay, then, don't worry about it. I had it in my hot little hand today, but didn't essay to obtain a colour scan as I figured it would be a trivial matter for your good self. I'll scan it myself tomorrow. Hesperian 06:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Let me know if any of your "10 to 20 items with the name with close variants 'wildflowers of western australia'" are the 1924 book of that name by Emily Pelloe (not the later editions that Gardner helped her out with). That 1924 one is entirely public domain and is begging to be put up on Wikisource. Hesperian 05:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Banksia sessilis
- Wrigley & Fagg Australian Native Plants (1979)
- CULTIVATION: Not easily grown in eastern States although some successes have been noted in Melbourne. Excellent drainage essential. Frost tolerance not tested. --Melburnian 06:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
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- Yep, with a "PROPAGATION: From seed." above, and an "L." at the end. Hesperian 06:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, that's the one :) --Melburnian 06:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, with a "PROPAGATION: From seed." above, and an "L." at the end. Hesperian 06:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Fairall received with thanks. No need to scan again - I have enough images not to make a fair use claim for the image shown there, so I can only use the text. I assume that text doesn't continue on the next page. Hesperian 06:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
June pages 12 to 14. Hesperian 06:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article Chat
Which articles did you want to talk about? --Hughesdarren 10:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I had a very quick look on-line and found alot of general information about the islands of the archipeligo but not much that is specific to any single island that was suitable to start a more lengthy article about (even Woody Island didn't have all that much). Do you think list of all islands in the archipeligo is a worth-while start? --Hughesdarren 13:44, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it is coming along very nicely - I like the bit about the dive wreck - I has heard of this and intended on chasing a reference down later but you have beaten me to it. Keep up the good work :) --Hughesdarren 15:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] T. F. Eccles
A favourite is anticipating a big pay off. I can afford my very own toothbrush ... I can afford my very own tooth! Cygnis insignis 12:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, and the romance of travel by Wurlitzer. Anywho, back to my brake. Cygnis insignis 12:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- You have befuddled me brain cell, my captain! EEyagh-ha Cygnis insignis 12:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- ROFL: I wish I remember how it got there, but like some other eclectic ones, Koala and tectonic plate theory, the fact that they keep getting vandalised is an endless source of fascination for me. I dare not take him off my list, but I have to remove something to stop the dreaded four figures in the LOOKOUT list. For that is my arbitrary cut off point/ What in the turgid miasma of existence brings these so much attention. And, of course, I should not let on how amusing some of the vandalism is ... HRH to Mr?! Head on a pike for that 'un. I only here to try and fixx a stub, and rebut the taunts of one western view. Western stars come out tonight ... hear the wind - and so on. Cygnis insignis 16:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- You have befuddled me brain cell, my captain! EEyagh-ha Cygnis insignis 12:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Questions
Why are these supposed 'experts' (noting their total lack of formal or informal qualifications and or experience) on Indonesian politics and or history being so pettily precious? I aim not to interfere with their material nor to invalidate it? So what's the frickin' problem? I point out my degrees both outrank others' in terms of rank and Institutional prestige. Furthermore I argue any and all contruibutions I have made to date are far more worthy of serious academic study than the triva et esoteria ad nauseum one encoutners all too frequently on Wikipedia- most especially crap about some slut porno star. Starstylers 18:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bennetts
Oops. By the way, I flicked through the toxic plants book with the Dell plates today. Very nice indeed. When are you going to start uploading them? Hesperian 11:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] French refs
Fully agree. If there are adequate references in english we should list them in preference to these in french. Cheers Zamphuor 08:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Category:Australia articles by WikiProject
If I recall correctly, this category was created as an easy way to locate all articles maintained by a particular WikiProject. If you've found some projects that aren't included be sure to add them. -- Longhair\talk 11:53, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Would you mind keeping an eye on the accuracy of the following tables on your travels throughout the Australia Wikipedian content...
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/BotStatistics/Maintenance
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/BotStatistics/Projects
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/BotStatistics/Places
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/BotStatistics/Sports
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/BotStatistics/Photographs
With a few more tweaks a bot should be able to tally up the results in the tables for us automatically to make life easier. The bot is currently updating Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/BotStatistics automatically however I've created the tables as separate pages so that interested editors may transclude the tables they choose to work with onto their personal pages. Hopefully they'll begin to update regularly. If there's anything that's been missed, now's the time to let us know. -- Longhair\talk 12:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- No categories for them yet. Let's see how the bot functions for a bit before we invite the new pages into part of the family. -- Longhair\talk 21:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- The bot appeared to update overnight, and your categories didn't break anything. Leave them as is I guess. Strike the above :) -- Longhair\talk 21:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Showing off
[6] It might not look like much, but it represents my first serious attempt to translate from the original Latin source: "Duae tamen sectiones (seu subgenera) fructus structuram admodium diversam et a Dryandris veris et ab invicem exhibent." &c. &c. ;-) Hesperian 12:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Darwin Crater/glass
Finally got around to doing the Darwin Crater page - see what you think. And an image for Darwin glass. Cheers --Zamphuor 11:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hello
Hi SatuSuro, thanks for the message. Yes, all is well, just real life has been pretty busy lately. Will still try to make an appearance on here every so often! -- Chuq (talk) 12:23, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gleneagle
Thanks for the response. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 05:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chidlows
Yes, I should have dropped in but was in a bit of a rush after a long lunch in Toodyay as well as a Cook's tour out to York. It was very pleasant. Good to see you back —Moondyne 06:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Fot years, I'd thought the official name was Chidlows. —Moondyne 06:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] G'day
Nice to see you around about again. I see you've been cleaning up after me as usual (i.e. tagging). There would have been a lot more where they come from, but Longhair beat you to it. Hesperian 01:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- So did you like my three Alexander Islands? A little while ago someone got their knickers in a knot over the fact that all three W.A. East Islands were targetted at East Island (Western Australia). I didn't really care, but couldn't see a simpler-but-still-polite way out of the conversation than to just deal with the problem. So I created East Island (Lacepede Islands), East Island (Mary Anne Group) and East Island (Ashmore and Cartier Islands). Also Lacepede Islands, Mary Anne Group, East Island Lighthouse and East Island Lighthouse (Western Australia). It was an interesting exercise; interesting enough that I went on and did the three Alexander Islands too. I may do some others yet, but I also have my eye on the 122 islands in the Houtman Abrolhos. Hesperian 02:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Aus Edu
I know how you feel with regard to the musuems, im personally waiting for a WP Australian culture to hand them over to a project that would actually care for them. With regard to libraries, i feel slightly differently, they should be covered by both Edu and Culture. We must remember that the scope of the project is to deal with all articles in the Education in Australia category tree, of which they are both apart. Until such time as a Aus Culture project is made, i guess, atleast theyre being watched for vandalism? Cheers for the comment. Twenty Years 04:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Steiner is coming along damn slowly. Do you know any books that are on the topic that i might be able to get a hold of? Twenty Years 04:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- I wonder why Museums and Libraries arent sitting squarely within History projects. Are they not the guardians of our history, the repositories of our past. Sure they are used for education, and they retain parts of our culture but everthing within their walls is a part of history. Gnangarra 04:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Might be worth bringing up on the relevant WP's talk pages. Edu isnt maintaning them in any meaningful way, of the active members of EIA, not one of us has touched a library/museum article. Id personally say that Libraries perform a historical, educational and cultural role in Australian society, the same case could be made for musuems, which i feel are more cultural than anything. Twenty Years 05:09, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- I wonder why Museums and Libraries arent sitting squarely within History projects. Are they not the guardians of our history, the repositories of our past. Sure they are used for education, and they retain parts of our culture but everthing within their walls is a part of history. Gnangarra 04:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
Thanks. Sorry I haven't been working more on the Indonesia project lately; I have lots of interests and often end up sidetracked. Rigadoun (talk) 05:34, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] ed thingie
I had just gone to your monobook page, when the orange message box appeared. :) Gnangarra 12:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Royalists
Thats treason you speak of. Send him to the tower! —Moondyne 08:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thankyou
[edit] Australian Aboriginal mythology
Can you or somebody cleanup Australian Aboriginal mythology its shocker thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 19:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
OK its shame there aren't more native australians to develop it -I'm certain there is potential great article in there. What do you mean flabbergasted by my user pages? In a good or a bad way? Do you like my humour? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 22:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes I do seem markedly different to many of the editors on here - I guess it is rare for somebody very intelligent to be more easy going and fun- that I can start articles like Deforestation in Brazil and still not take things too seriously. I admit I spend far too long editing wikiepdia though!!! There are far too many stiff people on here -hopefully when they visit my user pages they will try to lighten up and see I am not like them. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 22:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
It does seem surprising -the Australian wikiproject always seems to be one of the best organized on here ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 22:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
?? But I am qualified. I have a Bachelor of Science in Human Geography - in fact one of my case studies in Uni was deforeestation in Indonesia and the Indorayon paper mill ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 13:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Drovers' award
Well I want one too! But I will settle for a crown. I really don't think it is that hard to get a triple crown for an established user - write one new article and give it a hook for Did You Know (DYK). Contribute 10 lines or so to an article that becomes a good article - we have a fortnightly colllaboration that facilitates participation and similarly contribute towards a featured article - the Australian collaboration aspires to produce featured work. Most regular contributers are able to jump the hurdles reasonably easily.
I was surprised when seeking to compile a list of my fellow Australians who might qualify that quite a lot of them had not participated in DYK although I know that they have written new articles. The advantage of DYK is that it encourages collaboration - the times I have submitted I wait with bated breath to see what wil be added - never are the articles untouched! (sometimes the editing is not significant I will agree)
We are a bit behind with GAs too - the proportion of Australian articles of GA status should be higher and probably is - they just haven't been nominated and assessed.
What I would like to see is more peer recognition. It seems a bit useless to nominate oneself for an award. Australians don't go in for peer recognition much - perhaps the notion is we don't want to set up tall poppies or something. If there are criteria to aspire to that might be better. Or perhaps it is something many just don't want.
All the best on your break --Matilda talk 20:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC) (heartily sick of the insults hurled at my former patriotic handle)
- ...thanks from myself also for the new shiny award. As mentioned to Moondyne, I guess a redesign of my userpage is in order so that I can include a space to display all the shiny bits collected since being here :) -- Longhair\talk 07:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Plaosan and canals
Actually I just copied the text from the temple site itself ... I'll add some pics if I have the time :-) No, you haven't told me about the canals. Why are they special? I am rewriting some parts and adding some references for the Javanese language at this moment. Meursault2004 (talk) 17:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Royalists
Thats treason you speak of. Send him to the tower! —Moondyne 08:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thankyou
[edit] Australian Aboriginal mythology
Can you or somebody cleanup Australian Aboriginal mythology its shocker thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 19:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
OK its shame there aren't more native australians to develop it -I'm certain there is potential great article in there. What do you mean flabbergasted by my user pages? In a good or a bad way? Do you like my humour? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 22:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes I do seem markedly different to many of the editors on here - I guess it is rare for somebody very intelligent to be more easy going and fun- that I can start articles like Deforestation in Brazil and still not take things too seriously. I admit I spend far too long editing wikiepdia though!!! There are far too many stiff people on here -hopefully when they visit my user pages they will try to lighten up and see I am not like them. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 22:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
It does seem surprising -the Australian wikiproject always seems to be one of the best organized on here ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 22:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
?? But I am qualified. I have a Bachelor of Science in Human Geography - in fact one of my case studies in Uni was deforeestation in Indonesia and the Indorayon paper mill ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 13:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Drovers' award
Well I want one too! But I will settle for a crown. I really don't think it is that hard to get a triple crown for an established user - write one new article and give it a hook for Did You Know (DYK). Contribute 10 lines or so to an article that becomes a good article - we have a fortnightly colllaboration that facilitates participation and similarly contribute towards a featured article - the Australian collaboration aspires to produce featured work. Most regular contributers are able to jump the hurdles reasonably easily.
I was surprised when seeking to compile a list of my fellow Australians who might qualify that quite a lot of them had not participated in DYK although I know that they have written new articles. The advantage of DYK is that it encourages collaboration - the times I have submitted I wait with bated breath to see what wil be added - never are the articles untouched! (sometimes the editing is not significant I will agree)
We are a bit behind with GAs too - the proportion of Australian articles of GA status should be higher and probably is - they just haven't been nominated and assessed.
What I would like to see is more peer recognition. It seems a bit useless to nominate oneself for an award. Australians don't go in for peer recognition much - perhaps the notion is we don't want to set up tall poppies or something. If there are criteria to aspire to that might be better. Or perhaps it is something many just don't want.
All the best on your break --Matilda talk 20:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC) (heartily sick of the insults hurled at my former patriotic handle)
- ...thanks from myself also for the new shiny award. As mentioned to Moondyne, I guess a redesign of my userpage is in order so that I can include a space to display all the shiny bits collected since being here :) -- Longhair\talk 07:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Plaosan and canals
Actually I just copied the text from the temple site itself ... I'll add some pics if I have the time :-) No, you haven't told me about the canals. Why are they special? I am rewriting some parts and adding some references for the Javanese language at this moment. Meursault2004 (talk) 17:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- That is interesting. To be honest, I am not that often in Kota Gede although I am quite often in Yogya. Last in KG was in 2000. Meursault2004 (talk) 13:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] History of West Australia
You asked me to let you know when I put it up. Cheers. —Moondyne 14:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Out there
It was raining in Dubbo and the sky looks bloody heavy at lennox head have a happy whatever folks - cheers SatuSuro 21:51, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- Dear Satusuro. The signs portend of a safe and prosperous year ahead! Regardening, cygnis insignis 08:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Greetings
The joys of holidaying :-) Well it is another hot and dry one here today and 40+ tomorrow. I am back to work today, so at least it is air-conditioned. With Australian towns, I have made a resolution of sorts to be a little more ruthless with removing uncited information from articles, especially where it is of uncertain provenance and minimal notability. I'll have to see what reaction this gets but I feel it necessary; some of the town articles, especially in NSW and QLD are loaded with unencyclopedic trivia. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 22:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Happy New Year!
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[edit] Happy New Year
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Hello SatuSuro, I hope you had a pleasant New Year's Day, and that 2008 brings further success, health and happiness! ...and further nationalist conquests ;) All the best!.... ~ Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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- Hey cheers Satu - I see that you have been (broadly speaking) visiting my neck of the woods. And indeed I have been visiting Tas. Nice to hear from you. Happy New Year to you too my friend. --VS talk 09:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- PS have added a few new pics to the Tassie project pages. Hope you like? --VS talk 09:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Happy New Year
Does it contravene the MOS To have the same heading 3 times? Anyway, have a good one and remember to keep your camels away from the Gastros on your expeditions --Melburnian (talk) 10:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] happy Mango season
Have a shlice of mango cheek...well, I am up to my armpits in the things. Yuletide means lots and lots of mangos, as well as turkey and ham and ice-cream and pressies. Were on special so I bought 3 crates for AU$20 and now I have both crispers in the refrigerator full and even with everyone eating two of the ##$@& things every mealtime... I am a bit mangoed out so I thought I'd spread the goodwill around....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
have fun up there...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Gnomes
Lest you think I was insulting anyone: "A WikiGnome is a wiki user who makes useful incremental edits without clamouring for attention." Hesperian 13:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Agree - I use them a lot for subproject stuff, especially the state-based projects. Orderinchaos 13:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Anna
I'm sorry, I don't know what you are talking about. Are you sure you got the right talk page? J Milburn (talk) 17:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- The article said she had died when I reached it- I didn't add any information, I just cleaned the article a little. J Milburn (talk) 17:09, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WP:EiA
Gday, im curious as to this edit. The article is in Category:Railway museums in Australia, which is clearly within the scope of WP:EiA, which is made clear on the main page of the project. Weve discussed similar matters to this before, and we both remember the outcome of that. Thanks Twenty Years 17:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Museums are educational. this a railways museum, which is also educational. The article is clearly defined as within the scope of the project, as it is in Category:Education in Australia. Basically our last discusion was that until such time as a WP:Australian Culture (or something like that) pops up, the articles will be in EiA. Thanks. Twenty Years 17:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Either the article is in the wrong category, and as such shouldnt be part of the projects scope, or its in the right category, and therefore is in the projects scope. Which one is it? Twenty Years 17:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- So its not a museum, so it shouldnt be in that category, so its not part of the project. Problem solvered. Sent an email. Twenty Years 18:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Either the article is in the wrong category, and as such shouldnt be part of the projects scope, or its in the right category, and therefore is in the projects scope. Which one is it? Twenty Years 17:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] what about the heat
Mugged by George Street, you don't want that! Take care in future. cygnis insignis 23:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cats
Dunno. What happened? —Moondyne 01:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well since you went AWOL, someone had to do it. —Moondyne 01:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 1897 Christmas Number
The 1897 Christmas Number is extra extra special because it contains Siebenhaar's translation of Pelsart's Ongeluckige Voyagie, van't Schip Batavia, which is still the only English translation of that document. I'm planning to visit Alexander some time in the next week or so, for reasons unrelated to Wikipedia, and I thought I might use the opportunity to drop into the Battye microform and grab a copy of it, for Wikisource transclusion. When I tried to web up the precise details, i.e. issue and page numbers, Google turned up this mighty fine page. Hesperian 02:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Mmm, nice. —Moondyne 07:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] request
Sir are you able to go gmail have an image request, during your walkabout Gnangarra 12:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WAGR X class
Hello SatuSuro, your suggestion about the template for the WAGR locos is an excellent idea, it would allow the specifications etc. of each loco to be better presented. Also it would be nice to have some extra photos of the WAGR X class locos posted on the page if you have some.(A. Carty (talk) 13:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC))
[edit] David McComb
Have already included a reference to the Sydney Festival event in The Triffids article but if you able to source any additional material then that would be great. Dan arndt (talk) 04:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] absolutely
Excuse the lack of reply. I must check ↑ later, I never thought to look for his article. Re. history of cats: funny if it wasn't true, the absolute view of educated thugs. Certainly a prescription for WP:Righteous indignation, a page we can do without. I will send you an update of my current reading, which is also regarding categories, when I find the beginning of it! The person with the answer to that is unresponsive lately, perhaps he is waiting to see what I decide is the solution - so he can tell me why I'm wrong :-) ... I will spam your email with the details one day. regardening cygnis insignis 07:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WAGR locomotives
Hello SatuSuro, you are right about the need for additional published sources for the locomotive articles. The only information I have on WAGR locos is derived from web sites. Regards (A. Carty (talk) 12:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC))
[edit] Indonesian tables
Think I fixed them. Someone had put rowspan=2 on each of the headings for some reason. Orderinchaos 09:26, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] tum tum trees
AH, that coffee will need to be an urn of ~ I will need to relate my tales of Bedlam. Not another state, of conciousness or otherwise, but another country. My solace is in the circinate style of an exquisitely flowered genus, and I don't even know what circinate means!? As soon as I find out though, I will start affecting a circinate style meself, it is sure to make an impression. Beware of the Carrolian flora and fauna, and keep your vorpal arms clasped in, er.., hand, so I might hear of your tales from the far-east. Marco! Polo! cygnis insignis 08:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Barnstar
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[edit] i know, i know ..,
A new mess. from cygnis insignis @ 09:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC):
- Nine: itch nicked ion frogger off tree greens - nu? I expect they are the same as mine, I have to shuffle my feet in the garden. Blad you are gack. No mail for a wee week, but I tend to make myself answerable to the mob. Speaking of which ...
[edit] Swampy bark paper
Ta muchly, I will 'ave a squiz. I don't like red this year, so I'm stubbing them for random fact adding when I have the ref neatly curled up in a template and the infromashun already converted from a potential copyvio into a mish sham of word jumbling and typos and lack of polite commation and periodation or hyphenation - GFDL compliant - I figure this will be more efficient. This is all leading to, and this will interest you as you are one of the many on this project, a Lake Monger edit. And to think I used to ride by at night! I coud hab bin snared by some snarky lake-mongster ... do i have to sign this. Yes, cygnis insignis 14:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Girimulya Surakarta
Is actually a section within/ie inside the imogiri graveyard and as such does not constitute a separate graveyard SatuSuro 07:07, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I changed the category of this cemetery to a more specfic one from Category:Cemeteries to Category:Cemeteries in Indonesia. I have no problem eliminating the cemeteries category alltogether for this article, but don't think it should be listed in the higher level Category:Cemeteries when a more specefic one exists. Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 12:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- OK, Thanks. Good luck with the article. FieldMarine (talk) 12:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Indonesian Revolution of 1998
What do you think of this title? I must say, I've never despised it, but it does seem a little odd. What about Downfall of Suharto or Resignation of Suharto? I think Transition from the new order is not quite right (a bit optimistic!). On for the Indonesia project page? hmmm. --Merbabu (talk) 12:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've never liked this title either. It's all a bit Marxist-history-sounding. However, if we want to go too far down that road, was the Russian Revolution really one? I'd vote for Downfall of Suharto. Davidelit (talk) 13:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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- OK, so Downfall of Suharto seems to be the favourite. Gnangarra suggested the similar Fall of Suharto. Can we exclude Resignation of Suharto, and would mentioning the New Order be a misnomer? Ie, elements of the New Order are arguably still intact. What's the next step? Put it on the existing article talk page with a note on the project noticeboard? --Merbabu (talk) 13:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nullabor
I don't think it matters too much which one we use, as long as we have a disambig page and try to be consistent. Nullarbor does seem to have the most widespread useage. —Moondyne 01:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Signing?
Matur Nuwun Pak Suro. I think I've got the hang of it now- like this?Starstylers (talk) 10:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hotel Majapahit
Nice find. I've actually been there - but not stayed, in 1998. I should have a free domain photo or something. Also, it's a very nice (but expensive book) used for the references. --Merbabu (talk) 12:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've been on WP say 18 months, and I really regret not cleaning up the Suharto article earlier. It's kinda too late now. I bet half the reporting came out of that article in the last few days - it will be a long time before WP:INA gets an article with such world focus again. Would have made a nice FA to show the world. --Merbabu (talk) 12:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: "Perthian"
I notice you removed "Perthian" from Perth, Western Australia. My personal favourite name for a Perth resident (which I have shamelessly stolen from Inside Cover in The West) is "Perthling". I hope that if I use it in general conversation enough, I will start a trend. :) - Mark 08:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- A well known Perthonality, for the local celebrities. cygnis insignis 09:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Astana Giribangun
No probs- must have been getting tired. Thanks for handy hints- will stick to it. Pls- no apologies for "pedantics"- I need to learn the proper correct layouts. Sorry- will fix it all soon. Sampai jumpa Starstylers (talk) 11:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] path
There is a water path nearby, where those Drosera are, luxurious conditions. Better than a sand dune with termites for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They (der frokkies) are saying, "come and eat me, so that I can fill the night with my childlike screams". cygnis insignis 23:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Anna Livia Julian Brawn
Can you come back and help with the article. Thanks.Wjhonson (talk) 20:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- There are currently no known hindrances to replies here - cheers
[edit] Further reading
That's interesting. I wonder why someone would translate and publish the Batavia journals in '98, when Drok had already translated them, and Drake-Brockman published them, in '63. I wonder was Drok's translation not considered adequate? Hesperian 12:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nedlands
Yeah I didn't worry too much about the wording, my plan is to rewrite all the electorate articles before the 09 State election. It's happening slowly... (have a look at Electoral district of Perth for the first cab off the rank) Orderinchaos 08:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Heritage railway category, etc.
Hi SatuSoro - I haven't finished recategorizing all of the tourist lines and/or heritage railways from the past few days. I've largely been going through Category:Transport museums and Category:Heritage railways to ensure that any rail-specific venues with museum components are added to their respective national category for railway museums. My next step is to identify the ones which are tourist railways and those which are heritage railways (or both) and create categories for these by country, which can collectively be placed under a railway preservation or railway museum or railway company category. A big challenge will be to split out Australian, Canadian and U.S. articles with categories under their respective state/province. Hopefully things will be straightened out in a few more days. Cheers, Plasma east (talk) 11:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Another rag
You'd be interested in that. —Moondyne 10:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] coordinator election
The Wikiproject History is going to elect 3 coordinators. As a member you are invited to participate. Wandalstouring (talk) 12:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hati-hati?
I am Indonesian. I speak in Indonesian everyday. I don't understand what you mean with "hati-hati". Are you Indonesian?Mfa fariz (talk) 02:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thank You
Thank you so much for your help. do you have a yahoo or msn id? Maybe we can talk with messenger. It's hard for me to write a message every time i need your help. You can add me add mfa_fariz@yahoo.com or mfa_fariz@hotmail.com.Mfa fariz (talk) 11:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Favour?
Was this favour from a dung beetle photo? That's the only thing that comes to my mind... Maybe it was something else, doesn't really matter. Thanks for the welcome back. --liquidGhoul (talk) 12:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, cool I don't really remember that. Was I able to ID them? --liquidGhoul (talk) 12:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Railways on the West Coast of Tasmania
Thank you, glad it was useful. Biscuittin (talk) 16:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] ta
I didn't want to get to deep into tory humour, but I will have a go at tidying it one day. cygnis insignis 07:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
Thanks for the greeting. I'm still around, although not very active on Wiki lately due to other interests and commitments. I'll keep looking in from time to time. Cheers, Zamphuor (talk) 11:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nullarbor karst
Here are a couple of authoritative online government pubs that state the Nullarbor as being either the largest, or one of the largest areas of karst limestone on earth. http://www.ga.gov.au/image_cache/GA1957.pdf (for full ref see: http://www.ga.gov.au/urban/projects/nrap/perth.jsp) http://www.anra.gov.au/topics/vegetation/assessment/sa/ibra-nullarbor.html
Hope this is useful, cheers, Zamphuor (talk) 14:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Highway Interchanges
- Hello again SatuSuro. Have just created Kingston Interchange and Lindisfarne Interchange. I would like to display coordinates on both pages so viewers can see interchanges first hand. Have coordinates from GoogleEarth but haven't a clue how to display them on the page without a Navigational Tab. Can you Offer Some Advice? Thanks mate Wiki ian 14:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry Satusuro. Minutes after writing you that msg Orderinchaos wrote to me and told me how to write the coordinates in. As I got a reply back so quick, i assumed Orderinchaos was you logged in another name, thats why i didn't write back sooner to cancel the request. Sorry for wasting your time mate. Wiki ian 23:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Request for page deletion
Hello again SatuSuro, When first making the Kingston Interchange article, i made the mistake of mispelling it as Kingston Intechange. I have since moved the page to the correct spelling, but feel Wikipedia has no use for this poorly spelt redirect. How does one go about getting the old page deleted? Wiki ian 02:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Redirect deleted. —Moondyne 02:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: problem
The referencing style I'm using is just listing the name of the author and the year of publishing in each inline cite (in the notes section) with the 'references' containing the full bibliographical details. I personally don't like 'further reading' sections as they can turn into book spam, but certainly won't mind if you'd like to revert me and add such a section. --Nick Dowling (talk) 10:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I've just reverted myself. All those books I removed are standard and well regarded works on Australia in WW2, so I guess that having them there doesn't do too much damage. --Nick Dowling (talk) 10:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
There's a few snippets in there for sure. Good work. —Moondyne click here! 00:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] puck
Someone has pricked my pomposity and bombarded my bombast, I must away to see them brought to rights in a forum of my own judgement and unreasonably aborisolute\indigenant statements... But LO! What curliness has this idle chatter of puck soppets, I must be on the wrong side of our document - again. Or as one of my or-tistic pals would have it: "Again! again". I forget myself, these pages are for the improv of the document: If you find any new contributions, remember that we are in a recession and required to to apply environmentalistic conservatism: Refuse, Reuse, and Recycle. Help stop global warning! cygnis insignis 06:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Seaforth Mackenzie (author)
Gday, note you added him to the alumni for GGS. Is there a reference for that? Twenty Years 07:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- [11] —Moondyne click! 07:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Very nice work on GGS Chapel, seems quite an interesting building, might have to go up there and take some pics one day. Twenty Years 16:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Found a couple of Aquinas in 1938 and 1949. Got a few of the Edmund Rice Administration Wing, from its early days. Got pics of almost everything in the Aquinas chapel, just havent uploaded them all as yet. Would have a clue what the problem is, i have poor english and dont know architecture one bit. Twenty Years 10:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Very nice work on GGS Chapel, seems quite an interesting building, might have to go up there and take some pics one day. Twenty Years 16:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Oz amphibs
Sorry, I don't know what you mean. I think there's a spelling mistake(s) in your last sentence, and I can't pick up what it's meant to say. --liquidGhoul (talk) 12:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ohh, sorry I just got it. Didn't realise "arts" was articles. I'll have a look at some articles over the next week. I'm pretty busy at the moment, but should be able to get some references in the higher profile species articles (at least what I think are higher profile). Thanks. --liquidGhoul (talk) 12:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hobart landmarks
inspired by Template:Sydney landmarks i created this template. very worried I've missed landmarks, can you think of any? Didn't quite follow ur last msg sorry..... what should i be putting into entertainment? thanks SatuSuro, Wiki ian 11:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hobart International Airport
Hello again SatuSuro. Could you take a look at the Hobart Airport article and tell me if you think it still qualifies as a start class page? If so could you provide some tips on how to get it up to a B class standard? Kind regards, Wiki ian 00:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Can you refer me to a wiki help page that talks about columns? having trouble finding any. regards, Wiki ian 10:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've created a draft of the intro located on my Sandbox. Please tell me what you think. Regards, Wiki ian 11:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Do you like the region image for the airport? what else needs attention on the article? Cheers, Wiki ian 07:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Deserts
What is it with them? I can't understand why they are such a favourite of the vandals? Hesperian 23:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Estelle Blackburn
I refer you to the comment I made on your "Cleanup" post. Your advice is redundant. Retarius | Talk 04:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I started the article in mainspace because I thought I wouldn't be in anyone's way - the article has been a very-neglected red link for years and it seemed pointless to start a subpage. I thought I could tinker with it at my leisure over weeks or months (Half-a-King, Ha!). Since then it's become Piccadilly Circus. I was ambushed by the subject of the article within a few days and I've been walking a fine line on not distressing her and striving for verifiable accuracy. The CV she provided to me will (of course) fail the original research test...good luck to me in looking for other sources. How did anyone even discover the page? Perhaps because I fixed the broken links on John Button etc.? I think I'd better undo them until the article is kosher. I prefer to locate discussions on one talk page: If you want to converse further, let's do so on my page, as that's where we started. Retarius | Talk 05:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Surfing
I agree it probably should have its own section - but the section was empty and I don't know enough about it to do it justice! -- Chuq (talk) 09:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WA Media Awards
Yes I'm still here :-) PLease do fix up my start. I'll put a cite in now. I still have some other infor to add - do with it what you think best Davidcohen (talk) 09:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, they have similar awards in SA, Tassie and Queensland. And of course the Walkleys are the national ones. I see there's a Wikipedia entry for the Queensland ones. By the way, will you have a look at a new entry I created, on Liz Byrski? I did it after asking her for her CV, which she sent me. What do you think? Davidcohen (talk) 08:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
what what what? you're so mysterious. what about 1100 on Thursday? where in the CBD? Davidcohen (talk) 01:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
I'm doing the rounds of the local libraries at the moment. Seems every council bought a couple of random books. I'm getting there slowly though. —Moondyne click! 00:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC) I'd forgotten about Des Dans!. —Moondyne click! 00:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Lists
No worries, I only realised recently that lists could be dealt with so easily.--Grahame (talk) 14:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Questions
Hi and thank you, I was wondering for a while if my changes to some entries were acceptable or not. I just had a quick question, if you find a picture of a building online, what are you rights to using it on Wikipedia? A issue I'm having [as you can probably guess from talk page] is that when I create entries on Indonesian Buildings, there are pictures online but I don't have any. [I also can't take any pictures since I don't live in Indonesia]. Should I use the pictures I find online or just not use it on Wikipedia? Thanks! Mwidjaja1 (talk) 02:05, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- It's ok, thank you for your help though! I appreciate it Mwidjaja1 (talk) 02:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] US Bases in Australia
No, I haven't seen any articles on that topic. There are a handful of articles on USAAF bases in the Northern Territory and the Sydney region, but nothing on the US Army or Navy in Australia that I know of. --Nick Dowling (talk) 09:42, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- There is a Battle of Brisbane article --Nick Dowling (talk) 10:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Indonesian schools
In my experiences, List of schools turn out very poorly, the only good example of it is List of schools in New South Wales. The only way to have a list of Indonesian schools is to have it broken down into provinces. But at this stage, it seems like there arent many articles on schools in Indonesia, so any list of schools in Indonesia, or an indonesian province will just be riddled with red links.
I think the best option in the short term is to use categories, once a large-ish number of schools articles have been made, start making provincial lists. Twenty Years 12:44, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Oops...
sorry. did not realised if sub-category caused duplicate. I'll revert the other changes I'll revert similar changes that I made to the other page.--w_tanoto (talk) 00:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Nope. I did Leo Soekoto as well. Reverted it back. --w_tanoto (talk) 00:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
goodness. that article you mentioned looks terrible. I don't even know those denominations mentioned. I know I translated Leo Soekoto from Indonesian wikipedia, but I also looked at the external source provided to confirm the reliability of that article first before making my move and translate it. Would be helpful for me if you can just re-check it (I am no good at English words related to religion). I definitely can't improve the article you mentioned (as I am not Protestant, though my father and his family is).--w_tanoto (talk) 00:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] GGS Alumni
My personal feeling with this sort of thing, is that if the person is clearly notable, and someone just hasnt gotten round to writing an article on him/her then a reference must be provided along with the redlink to prove that they are both notable, and went to the school. Until such time, it is very reasonable to presume that the person is not-notable, and the edit can be reverted. Twenty Years 10:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Left a note on the talk page of the user who added him. There didnt seem to be much on the web about him, although i did see he was a aria award winner. Supposedly WP:MUSIC has pretty low standard to notability, so he might meet them, im not too sure. Cheers. Twenty Years 10:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- This seems like a decent list, might write some articles there, providing they clearly meet N, dont want to go through the whole Aquinas alumni deletions like happened back in the old days. Thanks. Twenty Years 10:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Javanese literature
OK, I am sorry, I will add some more on Javanese literature one of these days :-) I think Caraka still exists, I'll ask Drs. Ignatius Supriyanto, he is the one responsible for it. Meursault2004 (talk) 13:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Haha I haven't started yet ... Meursault2004 (talk) 13:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well I can tell you that there were some troubles with the department ... I am not able to tell it here. Furthermore some lecturers left recently. BTW I just added some text almost verbatim from Pigeaud (1967) to Javanese literature. Please look at it. So it needs retouching a bit. Some years ago I wrote the same article in Dutch nl:Javaanse literature, so I think I will add some from the Dutch article. Meursault2004 (talk) 13:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Well I hope you do that ... just spotted some mistakes. Meursault2004 (talk) 14:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Ocean project
Working on the banner today or tomorrow. When that's accomplished, I'll probably start spamming it all over the place, and, with any luck, we'll have a reasonable start to the project. John Carter (talk) 14:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- One option is to broaden the scope to all the major bodies of water, including seas. In fact, personally, I always more or less thought that was going to be what the project would be about, given the vagueness of boundaries. Unfortunately, I couldn't think of a single word which would include both, so used the "bigger" word only. Certainly, the name or scope could be changed to expand to include "seas" as well. John Carter (talk) 14:23, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Javanese literature
Yes I suppose so, as it comes from the intro of Pigeaud's Literature of Java. Meursault2004 (talk) 10:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Railways
Are we talking about Wikipedia? I do occasionally dable in rail articles. What do you have in mind?--Grahame (talk) 12:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tasmania
Seems like far too much detail for this article, but probably grew as a response to our friend. Don't know how anybody can estimate numbers at this time, but the claim should be sourced either way. --Michael Johnson (talk) 02:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Dab pages with photos
- Mulga
- Ian Macdonald (people seem to be always confusing them)--Grahame (talk) 06:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] AWB
- OK I may have seen so much of my watch list pass with your hard work across my screen for a however long -and I wonder why bother do the Australian project stub replacement - and the importance is left dangling empty - it seems plain old stubs actually require human intervention - as there is still the importance assessment to go through - or am I missing something? cheers - I may well have misunderstood something - maybe SatuSuro 11:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps I'm thinking differently about this here. The rating (as a stub or otherwise) is largely able to be automated (particularly for the stubs) and is fairly uncontroversial. I've been seeking for a while to zero out Category:Unassessed Australia articles and it's subcats, as unless the list is reduced from the 7500+ it was not long ago assessment will never happen (perhaps I'm an order nut as well). As for the importance I've avoided this for two reasons: It needs human assessment (particularly as a stub is a stub but a high importance Adelaide article may have low Australia importance....this requires knowledgeable thinking) and I've seen unhappiness here in the past over importance assessment. Very few arguments with assessing someones article as a stub/start/B etc... as there is a set of criteria but slapping "Low" importance can raise hackles. As for hard work...hardly... writing a product FMEA report with this ticking in the fore/background is more relaxing than otherwise.- Peripitus (Talk) 11:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- My mbarrasment - I understand your logic - at least it gets that part fixed and at least we agree a notion of thought is required for the imp part - sorry to have intruded - seem to be getting me knots tangle today - thanks for your humane response - please next time shoot! :) SatuSuro 12:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tasmanian politicians
Thanks for your comment, Tasmanian politics is a much-neglected area on Wikipedia, and even a lot of the Premier articles were "So-and-so was the Premier of Tasmania from date to date." I do what I can with Tassie articles, and you're right, so many Tasmanians in Melbourne! I don't really have access to Tasmanian books and documents except on trips home, so I generally take my laptop along to the Tasmaniana Library for a day to work on articles like Tasmania Police. --Canley (talk) 04:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] edit conflict
Hi Tom. After me not editing much lately, I managed an edit conflict with you over Rabbit Flat, Northern Territory. I think your main contribution was adding a section, which I've kept. Could you please check and correct if I inadvertently undid anything you had changed, as my copyedit ranged over the whole page, and I just added what I think was your bit to what I'd already changed. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 09:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- No worries - I'd made all my changes (including fomratting and combining the references) without discovering the edit conflict, so when I did, I just copied your new paragraph into "my" version, then copied "my" version over the "current" version - that's why I wanted to make sure I hadn't inadvertently removed something else you'd fixed. --Scott Davis Talk 09:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Begitu...
Bner juga *15:25, 29 Januari 2008 (versi) (beda) User talk:Merbabu (→U2 FAC Success!!!!: congrats !!) Fajar adi buana (talk) 02:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Avon
No worries - is confusing given the Avon Valley region here (strangely there's never been a Shire of Avon in WA... I did check for disambig purposes) Orderinchaos 13:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Javanese Wikipedia
Hello, I just started Javanese Wikipedia. But unfortunately there is a user called Lankiveil who thiinks it is not notable. Can you help please? Thanks. Meursault2004 (talk) 18:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ya soalnya artikel ini tidak lebih "jelek" atau kurang dari artikel-artikel lainnya mengenai Wikipedia ... Meursault2004 (talk) 00:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Userpage revert
Thanks for the late night (early for you) userpage cleanup. I had a time of it earlier fending off the fodder :) -- Longhair\talk 21:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Javanese Wikipedia
Hi SatuSoro, I have responded to your comments on the article's talk page. Cheers, Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC).
[edit] Reversion of your twinkling
Hi. I reverted your anti-vandalism edits on one page. I've discussed it on the article's talk page. Thanks, Andjam (talk) 13:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
For reverting the vandalism on my page. Thats what happens when you walk away for an hour. —Moondyne click! 04:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] My email
My email is down at the moment mate. I undergoing a major change in the setup around home/office and the domain delegation hasn't taken effect yet. It'll be back online in the morning. If it can wait, resend then please. -- Longhair\talk 11:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- Editing in the closet :) Nice work. I look forward to the timely release. Maybe now would be a good time so we can all assist? -- Longhair\talk 11:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] re jervis bay
Hi satu
my changes were reject, I guess because they were perceived to advertising.
This not so Tourism Jervis Bay is a no profit incorporated body of 147 members who’s only aim is to promote Jervis Bay
Jervis Bay Promotions Inc - Tourism Jervis Bay Mission Statement 1. To promote Jervis Bay as Significant natural attraction to the world. 2. To promote Jervis Bay and it's tourism infrastructure as a holiday destination to the world. 3. To promote Jervis Bay Promotions Inc - Tourism Jervis Bay using the media tools of the WWW 4. The organization is to be operated by the members. All decision require majority support of membership. 5. To encourage and support new business and projects that will increase tourism visitation to Jervis Bay. 6. To co-operate with other regional, state and national tourism bodies to promote Jervis Bay.
we are no different to Jervis Bay Tourism which is listed as an external link.
As is the Shoalhaven Councils tourism web page shoalahvenholidays.com.au.
Some of the infromation on this page is incorect and we have edited to be correct.
If you would like more detais please feel to contact me
Tourismjervisbay (talk) 21:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Eucalyptus globulus
Hi SatuSuro! Sorry that I edited without putting edit summaries or talk page comments. Now the information in the Eucalyptus globulus page is related to only one of four subspecies of E. globulus: Eucalyptus globulus subsp. globulus. E. maidenii and E. bicostata are not in the list in the List of Eucalyptus species page, and therefore I drew conclusions they are considered subspecies of E. globulus in Wikipedia. I then created a new page for subsp. globulus and moved the content from the Eucalyptus globulus page there. But now I see Eucalyptus pseudoglobulus is in the List of Eucalyptus species page, and we should perhaps add E. maidenii and E. bicostata there. So, I edited without reading Wikipedia content good enough. Sorry! Krasanen (talk) 11:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Even more than deserts
Per our previous discussion, do you know what gets vandalised even more than deserts? Penguins! I've had all nine penguin species on my watchlist for a while now, and jeez they take a hammering. Hesperian 12:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] East Timor
Sorry, I'm a bit confused, which, in all honesty, is kind of my default state. Were you requesting that the Melanesia banner be adjusted to be able to give categories a "null" importance ranking? There already are "Category" and "NA" classes built into the class parameters. John Carter (talk) 13:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- There is a Wikipedia:WikiProject East Timor, but that project, and most of the rest of the projects about Melanesia, use the Template:WikiProject Melanesia, which is equipped to provide separate assessments for each of the projects for almost all assessment grades, though I don't think yet all, like redirects for instance. John Carter (talk) 13:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't aware you were interested aware East Timor. I guess its pretty close to Australia though ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
So what are you then Singaporean-Australian? or just an Aussie you lived in Singapore for some years? By your user name I would have assumed you were Japanese or something. By the haircut I take it you mean the cat?? lol or do you mean the baldness that is blofeld himself? My or my thats quite a short haircut!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Sheeks! I haven't had the clippers since I was about fourteen when I used to have the short back and sides -a 0.5 I think -hard man style. The sound of them still haunts me! These days I prefer my hair longer and more bouffed. It must be freezing in the winter with a baldy, but it is very hot at present in Aus isn't it as it is your summer/autumn ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 14:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Phew thats scorching!!!! The last week or so it has been 11 celsius in the UK! It rarely gets above 25 in the summer although it can push 30 c on the heat wave days. Usually about 22 celsius in our summer is average I think. I forget just how hot Australia is during your summer. I know Melbourne can get quite cold in your winter though as I have an aunty and uncle living there. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 14:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] No worries
No worries, whenever you are ready. My talkpage is always open =). Lankiveil (speak to me) 13:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC).
[edit] Eucalyptus globulus II
For current taxonomic information there are good Plant Checklists online:
- http://www.anbg.gov.au/chah/apc/index.html - Australian Plant Census
- http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/floraonline.htm - Flora of New South Wales
- http://www.flora.sa.gov.au/census.html - Electronic Flora of South Australia
- http://www.rbg.vic.gov.au/dbpages/viclist/cd/ - A Census of the Vascular Plants of Victoria
- http://www.tmag.tas.gov.au/Herbarium/Herbarium2.htm - Tasmanian Herbarium
The problem is that different herbaria have often different opinions about the status of a given taxon. In the case of E. globulus, NSW says the four taxa are distinct species, but all the others of the references above say they are subspecies of E. globulus. I suggest Wikipedia could adopt the opinion of NSW, just because it is easier (fewer articles needed), and each article could contain some mention like "some botanists consider this taxon a subspecies of E. globulus". But I think something should be done: now the four taxa are considered distinct species in Eucalyptus globulus, subspecies in Blue Gum, and List of Eucalyptus species contain E. globulus and E. pseudoglobulus but not E. bicostata and E. maidenii. In the case you think it is okay, I can make stubs for the missing three taxa and needed editing for the remaining articles. Eucalyptus globulus would need only one addition: "E. bicostata, E. maidenii, and E. pseudoglobulus are included in E. globulus as subspecies by many botanists.", or something like that. Krasanen (talk) 17:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Detailed editing
Thanks for your helpful and positive comments. On "Towns in Tasmania", please could you try to put Grindelwald under "G". I can't work out how to - and don't really need to know how. Two other points on Australian geographical pages: if I find an unlinked mention of CBD, I add a link, as the abbreviation doesn't mean much to (for example) readers in the UK. References to "bush" or "bushland" - whilst they're perhaps more widely known - also, it seems to me, benefit from a link. NinetyCharacters (talk) 20:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tassie Mountains
Cheers for the comments. I like the fact we seem to get a lot more collaboration without edit wars on Tassie stuff, however with a lot less editors interested it seems to take us longer to develop articles to a good standard... Re ref's, unfortunately as I am located in London there isn't too much I can dig up other than via the web. I imagine there are probably some good books in State Library of Tas, but can't get down there. My specific knowledge of the Central Highlands pretty much comes from when my Dad used to take me on fishing trips up in the Lakes such as Bronte Lagoon, Brady's Lake, Lake Echo etc... and we used to go on little history trips to all the old Hydro sites. I was fascinated by the dams, canals, penstocks and tailpipes. Other than being a great fisherman, he used to fly helicoptors for the Hydro during the great building phases of the 50's-60's. I agree totally about the 'ecological/mountain/geography' stuff, and it needs more. I will look into it, but unfortunately my knowledge is more historical than scientific. I was motivated to do the mountain list because before I started it, there was basically only articls about Cradle, Mt.Wellington and Ben Lomond, and as anyone who has ever been to Tassie knows, they are such an important part of the island. Robert Fleming (talk) 13:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Well my main interest is Tasmanian history, and I periodically try to go back and turn stubs into longer articles. However in the fine tradition of Wikipedia I keep getting distracted by other projects! Mostly military history and cricket. You can see my list here: [12]. As you noticed I am on the milhist wikiproject - I try to keep it to colonial stuff as that is my primary interest, but have also done an article on Korea recently. Check out Hobart coastal defences, I pretty much wrote it all, and it got GA so I was very happy about that! Robert Fleming (talk) 14:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Heaven's Army
Hi there, sorry for not replying earlier i don't usually check my talk page anyways just talk to me anytime u have a problem don't hold back so yea talkpage always open i think lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heaven's Army (talk • contribs) 23:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, how do you suggest of displaying the reference? It's open to changes just not the table lol it took me ages to find all the info and it would be ashamed that all my work will be deleted after all that time and effort =( i mean u can change it just not delete it lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heaven's Army (talk • contribs) 08:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you show me an example? it would be great terima kasih =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heaven's Army (talk • contribs) 10:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Lol =D i got burnt by the sinebot i'm so new to this, it was much easier before i created my account, anyways i'm going to sleep by the way where are you from? --Heaven's Army (talk) 13:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
One more thing before i go to sleep how exactly do you add pictures on to pages?--Heaven's Army (talk) 13:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Lol that long u say? well couldn't u rather just give me a shorten version? or preferably a short cut?--Heaven's Army (talk) 13:44, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Ummmm....i've got an account hence my name...--Heaven's Army (talk) 14:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Lol i know about copyright issues :D but i took those photos my self anyways yay =) --Heaven's Army (talk) 09:17, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh ok but the article Hari Yang Cerah was just made out of my head and the album tracks from the back of the actual album lol so do is till need tags and stuff like that oh and btw i didn't create yogyakarta is south of merapi and magelang is west of merbabu' - that is in seconds flat! kalau saya mengerti dari foto rumah keluarga tak jauh dari salatiga?--Heaven's Army (talk) 09:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Lol disregard my last commnet i just properly read ur comment sorry....i do that alot.... anyways yogyakarta is south of merapi and magelang is west of merbabu' i really didn't create that though but yes my house isn't far from saltiga lol my picture in mount merbabu got deleted =(
[edit] Jlong2008
I was thinking about starting again - i thought of making station signs like they do on the sydney and brisbane ststions... is that a good idea? or not?--Jlong2008 (talk) 02:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Station Upgrades
Midland and Claremont include information about their upgrade plans. Kelmscott and bassendean inclued their upgrade works. References and proper spelling, english, basic material and links included. It is relevant information.--Jlong2008 (talk) 03:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fixed
I changed allanah's name on the Bassendean railway station, Perth page.--Jlong2008 (talk) 03:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Elvis, gastros and eucs
Not sighting Elvis at this time of year is probably a good thing. I'm missing the WA wildflower season when Commons uploading gets a workout, hope we get some more Gastrolobium photos next spring. Re "Some eucalypts are abysmal" - don't be so harsh on our flora ;) --Melburnian (talk) 07:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've got to say that that article is pretty good for a stub, it has a map, a photo, detailed information and is referenced. Idealy it would include that the species is endemic to New South Wales, then again after a (very cursory) search, I can't find a ref that says it is.-- Melburnian (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Kormoran
I just saw it an am updating the Search for HMAS Sydney and HSK Kormoran article. --Nick Dowling (talk) 03:08, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's very exciting. Hopefully Sydney will be discovered soon. --Nick Dowling (talk) 03:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Ghan Page
Howdy
Thanks for the comments re my edits to the Ghan page - I have added some discussion regards the contents, but have still had the suggestions ignored. So, I have not bothered any further. I did include a reference regards the naming of the train, and suggested that it should differentiate between the train and the railway. the two railways are well covered elsewhere. (Sulzer55 (talk) 09:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC))
[edit] Geo-cleanup
Hello. Thanks for watching it, no problem. I am not good in adding WikiProject templates, so excuse me for that. I try to clean up Australian geo articles/categorization scheme, because it is sometimes turning into a mess. - Darwinek (talk) 11:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] No problems
Got to tag it for EiA, so all the happier. Twenty Years 14:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tullah, Tasmania
I've accepted (see note 1) your challenge to improve the above. I have, unavoidably, probably offended the local providers of accommodation. I cited C.J. Dennison's book with reservations - his standards of accuracy could be higher, & he quotes no sources. (see note 2)
Note 1: with some misgivings: (a) like you, I'm very "easily distracted" (b) when I come across pages with large non-encyclopaedic (but often well-meaning) elements, or long sections by people trying to publicise their local hotel/sports team, etc, I usually move swiftly on!
Note 2: he may have consulted a small booklet entitled A Record of Tasmanian Nomenclature with Dates and Origins, compiled by J. Moore-Robinson, Hobart: Mercury Printing Office, 1911. The Tasmaniana room of the State Library in Hobart had in 1997 a very fragile bound copy. The library also has/had the Taylor Manuscript, a 2-volume compilation of about 600 pages done on computer in 1993 by John Taylor & Wayne Smith. It includes all geographical features & street names, but many entries are very brief & some are without explanation.
As you may possibly have noticed, I've created very few pages (about 5, I think). I'm about to do one for Ceratodus (Qld), one of Australia's more bizarre/intriguing place names. But I've no real interest in creating templates, or learning how to. So if you (or someone reading this) can add those, it would be helpful.
A place in Tasmania (I'm sure there are lots) that ought to have a page is Marrawah. I was there in 1997 but - apart from referring to Dennison & adding that its PO opened in 1897 & had in 1997 an attractive pictorial postmark - I couldn't say much about it. NinetyCharacters (talk) 17:05, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks!!
You have no idea how much i laughed when I read that award!!! Viva Tasmania! Meow meow - purr purr (talk) 21:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The 'Cup is up
At last. —Moondyne click! 13:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Gee whiz, Satu.
Hey mon, your points (along with Merbabu's) are not unreasonable. Au contraire: they fit solidly into "reasonable" discourse--that epistemological tradition of the West which subscribe to certain truth-producing conventions. "Accepted" by "leading scholars" , blah blah blah. OK--well, I resort to the same gimicks to get rid of an editor who doesn't know what she's talking about and I also feel that there is some legitimacy to referring to a consensus. If someone wants to edit pages, claiming that the Earth is flat, I'd resort to the same logic you employ. I'd politely ask them to take their sources and their wacko notions and go to a chat room somewhere.
On the other hand, debates such as those about the ontological production of "Indonesia," can produce a NEW consensus. Clearly I haven't won over you and Merb., but that's okay. I can stake my claim. That's how knowledge gets modified and updated, eh whot? I mean, if this WP page was being written 50 years ago the people who deigned to question White man's burden would be the freaks going against "reason" and "consensus" and "leading scholars." I'm sure you see my point, Satu: you're one of the smartest editors on this thing we call WP.
But why tell me to stuff it and write a book/article? I mean, WP is a democratic forum. Using the iron gauntlets of convention and "POV" and "political correctness" (trump card of the conservative White men) just squanders the potential development of WP. AND, more importantly, it conceals the POV of one's own approach.
I'm certainly not accusing you of any dubious motives: only pointing out that you are occupying a position in a long intellectual trajectory--one associated with empire, patriarchy, White man's burden, and so forth. I.e., the very same notions of objectivity and reason were used by the Dutch (and the Japanese) to subjugate the peoples of the Indies.
On the one hand we want to create/edit useful articles which can help trace, let's say, the influence of "Islam" in "Indonesia," and on the other hand we don't want to naturalize and reify concepts which have a troubled and ideological existence. The first point is where we all agree, the 2nd point is the existence of a problem in WP which you seem to deny. But, as always, your remarks bring a smile. Smilo Don (talk) 15:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Quite right quite right
I AM very very bad with referencing! How about this: I will stop adding material until I reference what I've put there. Jeez! Some academic I am! Thanks for the reminder..... :) Meow meow - purr purr (talk) 07:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Twinkle tool
Thanks for the note, I have been trying it out and if I have any questions, I'll be sure to give you a hoy. --Roisterer (talk) 10:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] MWU
Hi SatuSuro, thanks for the query on my talk page. MWU stands for "Mass Wiki Update". Its a tool I wrote to help with making large-scale changes to articles. Its somewhat similar to AWB. In this case, I'm using it to update the rail gauge templates to the new {{RailGauge}} format, as discussed on the Trains Project. Best, Gwernol 00:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] You rang?
This is Satu Suros talk page - please leave your message here:-
Hey, you're quick - thanks for the greeting, and I hope all is excellent with you. We're now living in the south west, very busy with farmlet and new job, so I don't get here very often. Recently had a subsidised satellite dish installed for internet - been offline at home since leaving Perth 8 or 9 months ago. It ain't ADSL, but it's usable, so I'll do a bit more editing as the weekends get wetter.
All the best, Callophylla (talk) 07:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] You traitor...
[13] --Merbabu (talk) 03:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] MWU Barnstar
Hi again SatuSuro and many thanks for the barnstar you very kindly gave me. I am honored to receive it. Best, Gwernol 11:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Dann's Dinosaurs
No problem; I'd just used it to look up something, so I figured he must have moved it. J. Spencer (talk) 13:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's pretty well established by now that Agrosaurus is not Australian. The article just kind of fell through the cracks. J. Spencer (talk) 13:35, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think it's fine for Agrosaurus to be under the purview of WP:Australia, though, because it's historically important. J. Spencer (talk) 15:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] dinko
Lonely as a dingo ... baits aside, or given a cite, let me give my appreciation from me for things that make SatuSoru appear on my witchlast. Speaking of lists, Archipelago of the Recherche - or the frequintlee Gazz-entitled concision of the unique prefix to the archpegleg - Recherche Archipelago? I like the first, the latter seems current. Can you guide this geo-challenged mariner to a source of dis stuff? cygnis insignis 13:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- It seems to have the nod, but not from those lurking in benthic habitat. The well grounded custodian has the edge on the those who would accent their study area, recherché, the very site of their nitrous intoxicated hallucinations and psuedo scholarly inventions. Soft coral! This is the ravings of those would-be-benthos, aquamen with waterproof geocorders and biographers, those who would deny the very purpose of ships; to displace onself from the maddening depths.
- Did you want to move the page? I think I have had hit hup to here with movies and redirectives. Maybe add that wherezit lat/long templete (-34.203º, 122.350º) with the little spinning marble icon? cygnis insignis 13:12, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pierre Tandean
Naughty! That Lubang Buaya list had a redlink. Not any more :-) Now I must turn this computer off. I'm being nagged to go and watch some bad Indonesian TV. Regards Davidelit (talk) 14:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Snug, Tasmania
You are too kind! Alas, these days I don't have enough free time to do a detailed edit like that more than once every few months (at most!) -- Securiger (talk) 11:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Perth population
Fun, hey? I know the estimated population recently passed 1.5 million (or so The West said) so maybe it'd just be easier to find a more current ABS estimate. - Mark 12:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Greycliffe...
Hey SS. I notice you saw this new article. I'm surprised it hadn't already been written. Who'd be best to ask about it - i note there is a maritime project - does a inner harbour ferry disaster register? There are some great shots and drawings around, but they seem restricted. --Merbabu (talk) 01:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Red river links
I have commented them out - see talk page discussion --Matilda talk 04:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] UWAP
A few times I made half-hearted attempts to find a reasonable reference but couldn't find enough to make it worthwhile. There's a few inbound links, which is a reasonable test for notability. Go for it by all means as long as you can find something. —Moondyne click! 08:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Butting in -- Melbourne University Publishing is at a similar level of development. I looked at academic publishing & small press when trying to sort out what to do with Macleay Press. UQP is a redlink (and not mentioned at University of Queensland). Surely there are some notable books they have published, e.g., for MUP: Manning Clark's history, Australian Dictionary of Biography ... Paul foord (talk) 04:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Only on wikipedia...
[14]. :-) --Merbabu (talk) 12:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Behemoths
That is one long list. What to do with it hey? It's got more detail that a category could offer but I wonder how well maintained or accurate it is? -- Longhair\talk 01:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- We could get a bot to place put a citation requested tag against each line item and date. Then remove it next month. ;-) --Merbabu (talk) 01:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Ordinary Person's response
"Talk items go at the bottom of the page not top "
I was not aware of that.
" please note that if you use a living persons name like that in wikipedia - it might be moved if in fact you are making claims against that person without reasonable effort to substantiate your accusations - open ended comments like that are neither of benefit to you or the encyclopedia - dont be suprised if someone reverts your talk page item."
Very well. I will edit and moderate my comments.
Thank you for your input.
Ordinary Person (talk) 02:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Station information
Perth stations McIver and Claisebrook now have some histery for them--Jlong2008 (talk) 02:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hancock Prospecting
Thank you for your message - the point is moot now as an admin has denied speedy deletion. However, I am still of the view that the article as it stands does not assert the notability of the subject per WP:Notability (organizations and companies). – ukexpat (talk) 13:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- I am sorry if the speedy nomination offended you - that was of course not the intention. The speedy deletion process exists for exactly this reason - to speedily delete articles that do not meet the inclusion criteria. So it is not my responsibility as a nominator for speedy deletion either to check out the company in other sources or to check out the creator's edit history. Also the fact that the admin who declined speedy deletion is apparently a friend of yours puts them in a conflict of interest. – ukexpat (talk) 14:09, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I have to get off - I really think we have explored this enough - the damned company is a lot more notable than us three - lets get over it and move on - cheers SatuSuro
- I don't have a problem with moving on. BTW I edited the refs that you just added so that they are listed properly in the refs section, which I also edited to use the reflist template, hope that's OK. Personally I think articles look better with refs in a smaller font. – ukexpat (talk) 14:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- I grew up in Brooklands, Sale, not a million miles from Alderly Edge! Nice part of the country. I have lived in the US since 1995 and I do miss some Brit things like decent sport - cricket and rugby in particular. Thankfully a lot of good stuff is on Youtube! Cheers. – ukexpat (talk) 14:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Talk messages here please:-
[edit] of the
Go on ... cygnis insignis 09:38, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- I thought you liked doing em, ta for the tag on the reptilist. cygnis insignis 11:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tasmania mania
Thank you - just a neatness obsession on my part. Making a point of keeping the Adelaide, Tasmania, South Australia articles all assessed...the entire Australia list is a gargantuan task though. Your good self, Graemec and others deserve thanks for keeping this under control. Happy Editing - Peripitus (Talk) 02:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] LOL
Yes, it's all craziness. I still haven't fixed the suburbs, either - half of them aren't gazetted and there's some blatant POV in some of those as well. Orderinchaos 11:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Twenty to Five
Just a quick note that ive changed the name from Twenty Years to Five Years. Thanks. Five Years 16:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Education & Musuems
Im not too convinced personally, its a project on musuems, and i can see that. But theres a project on schools, so why not remove them from EiA too? To me the logic doesnt work out. Personally, itd have to be an Australian project i think (eg. Australian culture). Maybe at a later date, wp:musuems is in its infancy. In short, its a maybe. Five Years 16:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Watchlist size
Help:Watching_pages#Size_limitation. I'm not saying how big mine is :-/ —Moondyne click! 01:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] country roads of tas template needed
is there a counrty roads page in western australia or another aussie state that i can use as a reference point? Wiki ian 03:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
you happy with the changes i made to the infobox on Gordon River Road? Wiki ian 04:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Australia's pelagic things
In Australia's Big Things#Western Australia you'll notice a need for a photo of the Eucla whale. Is this the nose of the same beast, and if so, do you have a full size photo? —Moondyne click! 02:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Silly me, forget it. Nullabor Roadhouse is on the SA side. Eucla is on the border, so I assume the Eucla whale is different. —Moondyne click! 02:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC) Our messages crossed. —Moondyne click! 02:59, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Back for more, sigh. SatuSuro 10:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] he he
Nice edit summ --Merbabu (talk) 13:19, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Surakarta...
This one is a bit of a mess. I am hoping you can have a little bit of a go at it. Not a FA standard job with a myriad of references, rather a 5 min (even 3 mins) spin through the history section knocking out anything that strikes you as bs or irrelevant. I can then go back and fix up the writing style and paragraphing (which i all over the place. Of course, longer would be good - but I think it only needs a 5min bash around the ears and it will be 50% better. The next 50% will take a lot more work. cheers --Merbabu (talk) 01:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WA school list
Thanks for comments. I was aware that lists are discouraged. Frankly the existing list is woefully short. Only 10 to 15% of WA schools are listed. I am not really keen to spend too much time extending it however I have been fiddling around the margins, so to speak, trying to make it more useful for people who access it. So I have added links to current active lists maintained at other outside web sites rather than add to the lists. You will see that my list of contributions is low. I am more a reader than a contributor. Frankly fiddling with the list is giving me a bit of experience with editing. (Lanyon (talk) 10:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC))
[edit] Pelion Gap
"Ohmigod" or "Oh my god"? Sorry you thought my article on Pelion Gap was of such a poor standard. As it was a stub I was trying to expand it as is asked for, so I added some extra content and considered information about the platform relevant. There is not too much that you can actually write about a gap between two mountains because there is not actually all that much there (I have been there three time to verify this). Sorry also that you consider my literacy to be of a low standard. I have tried extremely hard to provide information on Tasmanian mountains that is not available anywhere else on-line (that I can find easily anyway) and have spent considerable time on it. Try typing Mount Pelion West into your search engine and I don't think you will find anything like the Wikipedia article. I have even specially sought and gained permission to use GPS mapping for the articles. I have deleted the offending material and have left the bare basic encyclopaedic content to keep everbody happy. I was also not aware that you had given me an official warning as I don't always check the discussion pages. Perhaps you could have sent me an email. Anyway many apologies! In the future I will only concentrate on the bare verifiable facts and rely on the true professionals to add the precise, accurate, undeniable, verifiable and scientific content. SJS (talk) 14:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Update:I was just having a look at another article on mountains to see how I can improve my style and went to the article on Cradle Mountain and noticed that this text:
"There is a parking area at Ronny Creek, the outlet of Lake Dove, which is approximately 7km from the national park visitors centre. A free shuttle bus runs between the two.
Apart from private transport, or walking the Overland Track, there are public bus services to the Cradle Mountain Visitors Centre. Many tour companies also stop here.
Cradle Mountain is a popular tourist destination because of all the sights and sounds of nature. it is a great experience"
is perhaps also not encyclopaedic. SJS (talk) 00:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PelionClimber (talk • contribs) 00:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tasmania
I have got my hands on a copy of Railroading in Tasmania: 1868 - 1961, by Thomas C J Cooley. Will have some fun with the 150 pages of it when I get the time. Wongm (talk) 14:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Crustacean
I think it's a journey I'll leave to others. WP:Japan has Krill and Humpback Whale, WP:Africa AIDS, WP:Australia had (until just now) and the Faroes has Blackbird. If the extra FA's in a listing give people a warm feeling who am I to deny them - Peripitus (Talk) 03:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List help...
Hi there. I know we share similar views on the importance of really long lists no matter how obscure the info - the longer the list, the more helpful and reliable wikipedia becomes. Please add to Indonesian-sounding names adopted by Chinese Indonesians. The best additions are, of course, the unreferenced ones. cheers. --Merbabu (talk) 10:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tasmanian Mountain articles
Thanks for the advice. I am not sure why you stated this: "Also your messages to me at my talk pages suggest you are using more than one user name - take care - maybe you need to understand the issues that arise when using multiple accounts" as I have only posted one message prior to this on your talk page. I can guarantee that I have only one user name. You should be able to check this from the IP address origin of the messages. As for accessing the library in Hobart, I am working full-time and live in the remote northwest coast. I have been providing my contributions in my spare time, usually way too late a night. I could provide most of the information on your long list but you have scarred me off a bit because I know that unless I use multiple citations to completely back up the information I will be "shot down in flames"
I had a look at the Frenchmans Cap article and noted there is a long section about climbing the mountain which I had been criticised for before on my articles: "The articles about mountains are not climbing guides but encyclopedia entries - please help cleanup SatuSuro 00:54, 14 January 2008 (UTC)" Also noted that the article had this: "The walk from Irenabyss to Victoria Pass traverses rugged country and is recommended only for highly experienced parties" when I read somewhere on the Wikipedia site that Wikipedia cannot recommend or advise, it can only provide facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PelionClimber (talk • contribs) 12:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Trying to get it clear in my head how I should proceed. Cheers SJS (talk) 12:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Where is my assistance needed?
For I will aid my nation to battle...in wikipedia. Besides, it's clear that Malaysia isn't widely spoken in Australia, and you also wouldn't be putting English in the French language article. -_-" --Hamster X (talk) 12:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Indonesian living in Malaysia, thanks for the link by the way.--Hamster X (talk) 13:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Misread
At the five victorians delete - too much emphasis on oggle as a reference to notability is the scourge of afd debates - I was pointing out that they dont even hit the NLA new beta catalogue at all - that is a far more reliable location for whether anything was ever published (short of checking the vic state library catalogue) - hope that clarifies the point that i was making SatuSuro 04:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- I assume you're talking about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Farmers' Five. I actually agree with you - I think that Google is certainly a valid tool for assessing the notability of some things (modern technology, bands, politicians, etc), but that 19th century settlers in Australia wasn't one of them. However, the lack of any other apparent sources on these individuals does not inspire confidence. I was able to find a mention of a George Brown who I think is the same person as one of the people in the story, but the mention is fleeting and doesn't refer to him as one of the "Farmer's Five" ([16], p50). As for the others, nothing. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC).
- Another source that I've found useful, particularly for historical subjects, is Google Books. It even lets you sift through the pages of some books, which I think is pretty neat! Even if you can't actually read the book, it can help to find out whether there are books that discuss a particular topic, and provides a reading list for me to take down to my local library. Lankiveil (speak to me) 13:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC).
[edit] damp meadows
Ah, the last time you ask me to do that there was no end of heartache ;-]
- How ya going anyway, good work finding the name of that field-gruppen. I had planned to dyk it, we still can, but I need to get my magic box. I can't believe that people use these blasted things for anything but playing games and learning pointless keystrokes - Gah! Did ya get a four-worded e-invite from moi? cygnis insignis 09:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- I had another look, it needs lots of tweaks before I release it. BTW I tried to edit from a school the other day, but it was blocked until their first day back from holis !? So I paid real money to login from a cafe, all for a c/e and a typo. Cheers to all cygnis insignis 09:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "trying to identify known places at south passage"
Mate,
I noticed your edit to Dirk Hartog Island with edit summary "trying to identify known places at south passage". Thought it might help if I gave you a few places to think about. Here is all the gazetted places between 26 and 26.25 South, and 113 and 113.3 E., which forms as smallish rectangle centred on South Passage. I can provide lists for any other lat-long range upon request.
(moved to satusuro user page for further usage out of talk)
Hesperian 11:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- My database query returned an entry entitled "Dirk Hartog", which I unwisely assumed meant "Dirk Hartog Island", and corrected it to that. It turns out that there is a homestead(?) named "Dirk Hartog" on the eastern side of Dirk Hartog Island, just south of Notch Point. Hesperian 13:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Dutch influence on Indonesian grammar
Hi. I don't speak Dutch, but casting my mind back to schoolboy German and after a quick glance at Dutch language, I can't see any similarities. Indonesian is dominated by affixation, largely determined by verbs being transitive, intransitive, causative or passive and the way nouns are formed from adjectives, whereas Dutch is full of horrible inflections dependent on case. On a more superficial level, Dutch has separate words for subject, object and possessive pronouns, while Indonesian makes do with one (ie Saya = I,me,mine,my). Dutch word order is adjective-noun, Indonesian is noun-adjective. And here is the biggie - Dutch has three genders, whereas Indonesian has er... none (the few words where there is a difference for boys and girls such as mahasiswa/i take the Sanskrit endings). Indonesian doesn't even have separate pronouns for the two genders, yet alone a whole set for a third. About the only similarities I can see, as you said, are vocabulary-related. Apart from the large number of Dutch-originated words, Indonesian also forms compound nouns by lumping words together (rumah sakit etc). Hope this isn't too windy an answer. Regards Davidelit (talk) 04:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Definitely Bintang, although I hear it's really expensive there. I will try and have a nice day, but apparently there are demonstrations everywhere in Jakarta today, so maybe I'll just stay at home! Cheers Davidelit (talk) 05:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Dutch is not the same as German, example, German has 3 definite articles while Dutch only has two. (Red4tribe (talk) 19:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC))
As for all other parts of the relevnt conversation it looks like the main pionts have been missed again - thanks for the information though SatuSuro 00:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thank you from Horologium
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Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed unanimously with the support of 100 editors. Your kindness is very much appreciated. I look forward to using the tools you have granted me to aid the project. I would like to give special thanks to Wizardman, Black Falcon and jc37 for nominating me. — Horologium |
[edit] Cathedral & Tasmap
Pleased that I now have the formulae approximately right. Not sure what type of Tasmap article you had in mind. Cheers SJS (talk) 00:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Ausralian borders
You have caught us (WP Australia that is) out there - with the category - as there appears to be no adequate article to tie in yet - and some of the material is not clear enough - please note that at least 4 main australia articles (geogoraphy, states etc) have no sections about borders at all - so there is a bit of catchup to do - also because we have EEZ's we also do not appear to have adequate article material about the recently enlarged eez (at least i havent caught up with it yet) - cheers SatuSuro 05:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. I'm sorry if my spate of catogarisation had such an effect on WP Australia and I apologise. I just thot of putting some order by grouping the articles together. As wikipedia is always in a state of "work in progress", i thot there would not be any problem having articles which are not exactly complete or properly tied up to be placed within the category. CheersSlleong (talk) 08:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Indonesia
LOL yes glad to see you have your wits about you. Given the way Indonesia is geographically and that there is a potential 70,000 odd places in Indonesia the infrastructural change was needed to prepare for growth in the future. By region and province seemed like a sensible way to go particularly as I aim to add many missing places over the coming weeks. E.g aim at putting 200 articles in each new category. This is just in coordination with my work on most countries of the world where I aim to add an infobox and map locator to every place and then try to get a bot set up to add thousands of missing places ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Well actually most of the wikiprojects have congratulated me for my work on their cities to date, and to wait two weeks for a single reply is not time I have to wait. If the project was highly active I'd probably have mentioned it first but as much as a wikiproject is responsible for coordination of its relative country, it doesn't "own" the articles any more than anybody else. Are there any wikipedians from Indonesia you think would be really upset by SPECTRE's involvment? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Try looking at Provinces of Indonesia. Are you telling me the official provinces stated here are false??? The stub categories in Indonesia are split in exactly the same way. Yogykarta and Jakarta are special urban administered provinces and everything has been done correctly. Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry about it but just trust me. I've just created Paalmerah and each area of Indonesia can now develop big time. As there are thousands of places which could have full articles eventually in each province, the most important step now is to begin filling the notable ones in, the fact that some of the provinces only seme to have about 5 articles shows how lacking it is at present, but as I say, things will only get better!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes you mentioned about lack of RS sources. Having done a great deal of work on places in Africa and Latin America to date I can tell you that at present the web sources for a huge amount of places are not fiven online other than ther ecoordinates and altitude or occasionally population. I am strong believer that this doesn't mean they aren't of any notability, but that the web is relatively in its infancy as is wikipedia and gradually over time knowledge will increase and we will gain access to places never heard of before. This is particularly important in parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia where countrie slike Burma, Togo etc have extrermely poor resources online about their countries. It is partly wikipedia's responsiblity I think to begin addressing this and revolutionize the world of information and knowledge ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
This discussion needs to go to the project noticeboard. --Merbabu (talk) 03:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Taxiride
replied on my talk page. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 02:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Groan...
The fanboys are organising. [17]. This could have serious wikipdia-wide implications for quality. Clearly and effort to legitimise the trivial. I wonder if this project has been discussed by the broader community? --Merbabu (talk) 03:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] OzLit
Yes, I find it irritating how many are hard to find. Angus and Robersons did an Aussie classics reprint a few years ago - Langley, Boldrewood and others but they are hard to find. I guess our market is too small. An article may be good - or it could be added to the current general article perhaps? Not that I have time to do that right now!Sterry2607 (talk) 07:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tasmap
Thanks for the comment on the Cathedral photo. I would be interested in providing some imput to a Tasmap article but probably not with the really technical type info. It was interesting because Tasmap had a stand at Agfest on Thursday. I didn't actually see it myself but my son got a Tasmap showbag and included was a small notepad which had a cover which said "GET LOST! or use Tasmap". I have a Magellan Triton GPS unit and I think the company that I have quoted in my topographical images for the mountains utilises slightly modified versions from the relevant Tas Govt (DPIWE)department. I think this dept and the Government Printer are largely responsible for Tasmap but I am not completely sure.SJS (talk) 10:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC) Found some information that may be useful to you at https://www.tasmap.tas.gov.au/aboutPage.do?staticpage=aboutPage.do SJS (talk) 11:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Lists
Perhaps extracting lists should be the project of the month. I'm deciding what to do about this [18] at the moment. Any thoughts? Davidelit (talk) 10:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- It is true about lists. And they have to be numbered! By the way, have you seen what's happening over at Communist Party of Indonesia? I'm ploughing manfully through references for Dutch-Indonesian Round Table Conference at the moment. Dear God, George McTurnan Kahin does go on. Mind you it seems he nearly got shot in Yogya in '49, so I suppose he feels he has the right to rattle on a bit... Merbabu has yet to erupt :-) Davidelit (talk) 11:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Lists!?!?!? My reaction to lists. --Merbabu (talk) 11:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] ping
Imagine images and voila they be there, detail coming via the e-postman Gnangarra 13:09, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 Enterance to Mercedes College |
 Palace Hotel, Perth Western Australia |
 INternal view of the Perth railway station taken from platform 6 looking towards the original enterance |
 Holding facitility before loading of salt on the ships |
 Sea eagle nest |
 Steep Point, the western most point of the Australian mainland |
 Aerial view ot the Useloop townsite and salt drying flats |
 Statue of William Farrer |
 Statue of William Farrer |
 Statue of John Gale |
 Statue of John Gale |
 St Johns Procathederal in Perth Western Australia |
 enterance to the Young Australia League building in Perth Western Australia |
Thar she blows capt'n please fix the descriptions and image dates etc, where there is nothing to fix plaese do a null edit so as to confirm that they are self published even though I uploaded them. Gnangarra 14:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Friedrich
I'll take a look over that article when I return. You arrived at my talk page just as I was packing up for now. Came off the motorbike recently around home and have yet another doctors appointment to attend. Ouch! Cheers. -- Longhair\talk 03:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Familiar tracks and fallen trees don't make for a good time on the bike. Not at all. -- Longhair\talk 03:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] New Norcia, Western Australia
Can you explain the meaning of the section Friends of New Norcia. I did not understand this. It says "Following the closing of the schools in the early the 1990's the Benedictine community went through a crisis in its sense of how income and interest in the monastery might be sustained" - a more explanation will be helpful. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] CANE
That is one long article. If I didn't have the flu atm I'd give it a more comprehensive review... I've been doing more minor tasks since Sunday as a result of this damned thing. Orderinchaos 01:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Prambanan
I write the information based on my observation, thanks to my frequent visit to Prambanan since junior highschool, also based from some books I've red about Prambanan. But unfortunately that books already missing somewhere in my house. Maybe if I've recover it I'll mentioned it as the reference. Meanwhile you're welcome to edit, support with reference, or add another reference if you have them. Thank you for your attention (Gunkarta (talk) 08:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)).
Info yang saya buat bukan dari copy-paste situs lain, tapi dari pengamatan sendiri karena seringnya saya mengunjungi Prambanan sejak SMP, serta dari beberapa buku yang pernah saya baca dan saya punya tentang Prambanan. Sori buku-bukunya sudah terselip di sana-sini, mungkin di rumah kalau saya bongkar2 lagi bisa ketemu lagi. Nanti saya carikan sebagai referensi (kalau ketemu dan kalau sempat). Sementara silakan mengedit, memperkuat, atau merubah jika punya refernsi lain. Thanks atas perhatiannya (Gunkarta (talk) 08:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)).
[edit] Shark bay
Alway happy to help where I can. As for comparing Houtman Abrolhos with Shark Bay, the largest journey etc... and we cant all be as focussed as Hesp. -- Mattinbgn\talk 02:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] “Suporior race”, inferior edits
You may also want to cast your eye over this. From memory, Hadiyana has a strong interest in Sundanese history and has made substantial expansions and article creations along these lines. --Merbabu (talk) 03:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Ned kelly
Cheers. I don't know why that article is so popular with the vandals - it definitely needs more eyes on it.--Kubigula (talk) 04:34, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
That's pretty funny - maybe he's been waiting 20 years for his refund?--Kubigula (talk) 04:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re:ASGAP
OK, I see your point, should I delink or shall you? Why has your page been semi-protected? Kathleen.wright5 09:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- What wording exactly? Kathleen.wright5 09:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- How about in Bold Type - List of species and topics studied. Kathleen.wright5 09:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mobsters
Does Australia even use the term mobster anymore? It conjures up images of American mafia-type gangsters for myself. I think this one might do with some wider discussion. I'm not comfortable with the term when used to describe Australians. -- Longhair\talk 01:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Leave it with me. I'll raise the matter later today when my focus is enabled ;) -- Longhair\talk 01:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Hopeless...
[19] - where does one start with that sort of logic? --Merbabu (talk) 12:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- ...and, the very next edit - i suggest related - is to reinstate the picture I removed as having nothing to do with the history section. --Merbabu (talk) 12:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your note to the character. Perhaps though, this is a better diff to show - ie, it actually shows the changes. Cheers! --Merbabu (talk) 13:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Gday
No, I just forgot about the article, with work and study you can loose track easily. Good luck. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 04:08, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
No problems, we will co-operate well. I look forward to your imput. Yes the low level of species can proberly be attributes to many things, one being these animals are easier to migrate long distances. Love to look at the website as the references could be expanded. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 04:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Welcome
Thanks for the welcome. I doubt I'll be as energetic as some wikipedia editors; I have what passes for me as a life :-). But I hope to join Wikiproject Neopaganism, and contribute to some articles on shamanism, magic and related topics. I'm into psychedelic music, too, and I think the didgeridoo is to this era what the sitar was to the sixties. For example, see Stephen Kent's work on Terence McKenna's video Alien Dreantime, and the growing prevalence of didges in trance-related bands. JuliusAaron (talk) 04:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nat Exec
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_Labor_Party_National_Executive&action=history - what an odd history, such little contribution! Only you seem to have made any changes recently. I've updated the list. I wonder if this is one of those pages that tends to fly below the radar... Timeshift (talk) 14:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Terrorist definition
I noticed a problem with Wikipedia self-references. See Category talk:Terrorists#Avoid self-reference in terrorist definition. My version of the template is [20] which said the same as the previous non-template text in the categories where I placed it, except the template omits the self-referential word "Wikipedia". I also made a post to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Terrorism#Improving the definition of terrorism and terrorist groups. Francis Schonken changed the template to display the long definition at [21] which my short template version linked to. I have not been and don't want to be involved in a discussion or decision about how to define terrorism or where to place a definition. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Giggamess
I'm using Kingbotk (User:Kingbotk/P) which does all the importance=NA (or whatever) stuff automatically. I'm not focusing on that (rather, making sure every page has a project banner, so Longhair gets to it eventually! :D), it's just part of the deal...and I think the template prefers it anyway. But yeah, no big deal either way. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 07:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Notable?
Re Drury, (asume it's established now) & yes, perhaps temp:notability should be re-named along the lines of 'I don't like it, but can't be bothered AfDing it'. ;)--Bsnowball (talk) 08:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sri Sultan
I take your point. I put the redirect in there as it was the quickest way to kill the redlink from Timeline of the Indonesian National Revolution (1945-1950), which I have just been clearing up. It's all a question of time and priorities. I have not proposed any renames before, but if you have and know what to do, please go ahead. Regards Davidelit (talk) 08:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] S'pot and C'pie
No worries, well-spotted by you, and easily fixed --Melburnian (talk) 13:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Chronology of Commonwelath Realms
I was sorry to see you revert yourself on this :-( That section was in response to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Australian monarchs - I really don't see why there are 16 articles saying the same thing when one chronology can say it much better. I also think a table is tidier than prose and doesn't ahve to duplicate - there wa smuch information that was not duplicated and if duplication of info is the issue then we can remove the duplicatd info while still keeping prose and a chronology. Can't attend to now though :-( . Regards --Matilda talk 07:52, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Museum
Lol 1995 abit old there :P...neways i would love if you upload them and put them in the museum article if there is one...if theres not ill make one....Regards--Heaven's Army (talk) 12:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
- ROFL XD 1985 i wasn't even born back then....it would be nice to see wat it was like back then--Heaven's Army (talk) 12:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
- Approx numbers how many photos do u think u have?--Heaven's Army (talk) 13:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: News not news and where is the article?
The territorial waters issue is interesting. As far as I know, while the notion of "sovereignty" is applied to land, when it comes to sea it is best to avoid the term and talk about a countries rights in different zones. Australia's claimed rights are in the terms of the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. They are outlined at this GA page - note that the EEZ description speaks of rights to the "waters superjacent to the seabed" whereas in the rest of hte continental shelf on the seabed and the subsoil are mentioned. In April a UN Commission approved Australia's submission on where the relevant continental shelf ends (in line with the convention). This was widely reported as Australia extending its boundaries or continental shelf, but it was really just the last step in claiming the continental shelf rights set out by the convention for all coastal countries. The first news articles I can find about it are [22] [23] and an article today about other countries [24] (note the phrase "on and beneath the seabed"). Clearly the extended limits are important, but in terms of the history section they are a very minor point, a bureaucratic detail in an international agreement, rather than a significant move by Australia. It might be worth having an article on Australia's maritime rights and responsibilities, but it is probably covered fairly well by the descriptions of the international agreements. JPD (talk) 06:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Freo Doctor
Yes exactly ... that title would have absolutely no international appeal ... I doubt it'd be understood outside WA or maybe even Perth. It's like titling a book about syringes "The Bell Tower" and expecting anyone else outside of Perth to understand it. Or at least that's what I was told it looked like when it was first put up ... Graham87 01:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- You've got mail ... assuming your Gmail address still works. When I tried to email you through the "email this user" function it didn't work. Graham87 01:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Arrhhh retirement
I can relate to that (in the tone of voice of the late frank zappa when he used to say that) - trust its going ok. He was an awesome satirist. Time to back away a bit. Everythings cool. I like the pic on your userpage, have seen our dingo ? — Ѕandahl 03:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] ping
are you still online Gnangarra 08:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hazards
If different areas have different names for the same hazards those should all be listed in the same section. I know that hurricanes/typhoons are different names for the same phenomenon, though few sane people try to hike in such weather. A wet rock by another name is still a wet rock.
As for hazards on Wikipedia, those require subtle skill to navigate safely. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 08:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tasmanian connection
When I entered a school at the age of 11 many guessed I was the cousin/brother of an exchange student from Tasmania, a fellow at least five years older than I but who bore a striking resemblance to me (or vice versa). Common threads (genes) extend across widely-separated areas.
I'm expecting to plant an ice axe deep in the summer remains of old snow this June. Perhaps you'll have some fresh stuff the same month. Let's both of us handle the obbjective and subjective hazards successfully. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 09:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Territorial waters again
Territorial waters seems to be at least a fairly decent start at laying out the issues, unless you are suggesting that we need an Australia-specific article. I have to admit I don't know of anything that is specific to the Australian situation. JPD (talk) 13:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tas articles
Hi there, Yeah I tend to pop on only every now and again - everything demanding so much time these days! -- Chuq (talk) 02:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Overland Track
This article has too many red links which looks bad. Can you please start the respective article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Responded at Oto's talk page - no go - I didnt create the red links and have no intention of playing with them - Its a crappy article that needs lots of work to be made into something other than a group of bushwalkers memos to each other and outright rubbishy non enycclopediac prose - I have enough on my plate as it is - grey em if you wanna SatuSuro 14:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Overland Track
This article has too many red links which looks bad. Can you please start the respective article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Responded at Oto's talk page - no go - I didnt create the red links and have no intention of playing with them - Its a crappy article that needs lots of work to be made into something other than a group of bushwalkers memos to each other and outright rubbishy non enycclopediac prose - I have enough on my plate as it is - grey em if you wanna SatuSuro 14:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Port of Albany
Thanks for adding in all of the section headings, article looks much better and reads much easier as a result. Keep up the good work. --Hughesdarren (talk) 13:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC) If you could get hold of some non-web based refs to help out with the article it would be much appreciated (I don't get to the library too often I'm afraid), particularly for the history-stuff side (well the older history stuff) I will add another table for port export/import tonnages in the near future but that will be pretty much all of the info I have been able to get hold of. I'll take some photos of the port the next time the sun is shining down here to. --Hughesdarren (talk) 14:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Goldfields Highway
Thanks for the comment regarding the edits I made. It's good to know that some one else has had problems with this editor before! Did you feel that any of the edits I made were unreasonable? Thanks again! Tazkal (talk) 14:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Indonesian Airport Stubs
The only thing I'm going to do with Indonesian Airport Stubs is see if there's enough for a separate stub template, which I think there might be after looking through them whilst doing Malaysian Airport Stubs, which have an Upmerged template because they don't have the required minimum of 60 stubs. (see Wikipedia:Stub#Creating stub types). Kathleen.wright5 23:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC).
[edit] Re: Borobudru
I simply thought it was a bad addition to the page, just tacked on at the end and didn’t integrate into the text at all. But if you want to put it back, I’m not going to start an edit war. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bossk-Office (talk • contribs) 13:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Dont stop by that much anymore, busy life and being told Wikipedia is not a reliable source don't tend to look it up much. Apart from that everything's going well as can be expected for this time of the year ( exams, EOFY etc). Trust all is well around your neck of the woods.
[edit] Goldfields Highway
Quite clearly, you haven't done your research. I may come from interstate (won't say where), but I can clearly tell you that if you searched Laverton, WA on the Google Maps page, you will find Goldfields Highway, on the left of the map, and if you zoom in on Laverton, you will find that Leonora-Laverton Road, links with the Anne Beadell Highway, and since it isn't necessary to add Leonora-Laverton Road as another Wikipedia Road Article, I think it is the only smart think to add that Anne Beadell Highway runs via Leonora-Laverton Road between Leonora and Laverton to the Goldfields Highway. Here's the link if you still don't believe me! [25]--Rom rulz424 (talk) 14:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Answered at user talk page SatuSuro 14:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Anne Beadell Highway connection
In reponse earlier, a change in detail of the article made by Tazkal, has made me rather confused, and why Leonora-Laverton Road is not listed as a major junction.
I have extensively researched Google Maps, and find it a very reliable source, considering in areas where I have never been, such as the Goldfields Highway in Western Australia. Anyway, I do believe that Anne Beadell Highway should be included as a major junction for two reasons.
I find it unnecessary that Leonora-Laverton Road, should have a Wikipedia Road article, as there is not a lot to mention about it, other than where it starts and ends (which is obvious), and distance covered. I felt that the best connection is the Anne Beadell Highway with the Goldfields Highway via Leonora-Laverton Road, as it won't create the missing link between two important outback roads. If you viewed Anne Beadell Highway, you will see that I also listed Goldfields Highway as the terminating point via Leonora-Laverton Road, and hence this will reduce the need of an additional Wikipedia article, and also give visitors an idea into the important link this would have, especially for 4WD enthusiasts.
I hope that you will revert back to the previous that Tazkal has made, and for evidence visit Google Maps, and search Laverton, WA; and you will see for yourself I'm making this link road for a very good reason. --Rom rulz424 (talk) 14:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's best to find a written source so it can be cited then using Google Maps as a source. Bidgee (talk) 14:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Goldfields Highway
Quite clearly, you haven't done your research. I may come from interstate (won't say where), but I can clearly tell you that if you searched Laverton, WA on the Google Maps page, you will find Goldfields Highway, on the left of the map, and if you zoom in on Laverton, you will find that Leonora-Laverton Road, links with the Anne Beadell Highway, and since it isn't necessary to add Leonora-Laverton Road as another Wikipedia Road Article, I think it is the only smart think to add that Anne Beadell Highway runs via Leonora-Laverton Road between Leonora and Laverton to the Goldfields Highway. Here's the link if you still don't believe me! [26]--Rom rulz424 (talk) 14:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
If we mentioned every road that was linked to another road i could add another 4 at least to this page. Plus, the Anne Beadell Highway isnt classified as a highway; its a track, just like the Gunbarrel Highway. Google Maps is hardly the most acurate of sources in any case! Regards Tazkal (talk) 14:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC) :( phew it must be monday morning SatuSuro 00:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Monday morning
Most of goldfields highway material copied to the talk page of that art SatuSuro 01:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Towns and infoboxes
Happy to help. It has been one of my projects to add infoboxes to all articles on Australian towns. I have completed Victoria and Tasmania and I am about one-third the way through Queensland. SA and WA will follow and NSW (other than the Riverina and New England) lags behind. By adding the no-infobox tag to the article talk page, it adds the article to my infobox work list at Category:Australia articles without infoboxes so I don't lose it amidst all the rush!
My sole trip to Tassie I did not see much other than the Brighton Barracks, Pontville Pub and the Buckland Forest. I would love to go back some time, esp. to the South West. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 01:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Islands of Shark Bay
Here are the 30 gazetted islands that occur between 24.5 and 26.5 S, and between 112 and 114.5 E. I had to go that far north to get Dorre and Bernier Islands, and I had to go that far east to get the Hutchinson Islands, but unfortunately that meant getting Babbage Island too, which I wouldn't be inclined to call an island of Shark Bay. But I shall leave to you the decision on what to omit. Happy to tweak the query if you want to give me refined boundaries.
| Ant Island | ||
| Babbage Island | ||
| Bernier Island | no dab req'd | |
| Boora Island | ||
| Charlie Island | ||
| Dirk Hartog Island | no dab req'd | |
| Dorre Island | ||
| Double Island | Double Island (Shark Bay) | |
| Eagle Island | Eagle Island (Western Australia) | |
| Egg Island | Egg Island (Shark Bay) | |
| Faure Island | no dab req'd | |
| Freycinet Island | ||
| Friday Island | ||
| Hutchison Islands | ||
| Kangaroo Island | Kangaroo Island (Shark Bay) | |
| Koks Island | ||
| Lefebre Island | ||
| Mary Anne Island | ||
| Meade Island | no dab req'd | |
| North Kangaroo Island | ||
| Parrot Island | ||
| Pelican Island | Pelican Island (Shark Bay) | |
| Slope Island | ||
| Sunday Island | Sunday Island (Shark Bay) | |
| Unknown Island | ||
| White Island | White Island (Shark Bay) | |
| Whitlock Island | ||
| Whitmore Island | ||
| Wilds Island | ||
| Wilson Island | Wilson Island (Shark Bay) |
Oh, by the way, I haven't fixed these links; some of the blue ones probably point at the wrong article. Hesperian, yesterday (Sorry; forgot to sign).
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- Kangaroo Island (disambiguation) now created, and links fixed Gnangarra 17:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Dab pages fixed use the red link for article creation, dab naming based on worse case so far Sunday Island, Western Australia Kimberley, Pilbara, and Shark Bay. Will fix Kangaroo shortly need to create a couple of dab pages then link from the SA art to dab. Eagle Is I left at its current location already dabed to that but can move if wanted to (Shark Bay) DAB. Gnangarra 16:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Kangaroo Island
Seen the image before you reverted then I found the other image which was from the link that they posted. It was reposted on the page which I reverted and used the advert warning tag which may give them a little bit of info. Anything thing we can do is hope they read the policy and understand it or we will just have to revert and warn which may lead to them getting a 24 hour ban (which I hope it doesn't come to). Bidgee (talk) 11:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Templates
Yes, that is, as always, the hope! Biruitorul Talk 01:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] In WA
There is definitely an air of unpredictability about WA and its residents; chair sniffing, quokka kicking, peculiar hat wearing etc. etc. -- 02:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Matt I'd just to point out you misspelled residents its rodents 02:36, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
I prefer to talk about things first, rather than be bold. I was surprised that someone renamed Convictism in Australia so soon, before there was a clear consensus on the topic. Usually I contribute in other areas of the project, such as Canberra or assessment requests. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Project tag
The Charismatic project had been tagged as inactive for awhile, which is why I started using the Christianity banner, which provides assessment for both projects, while the Charismatic project only works for that project. If you think that the Charismatic project is likely to become active again, it might not matter too much, but I think in general the "joint" banner might work better. Your call in the end on any particular article, though. John Carter (talk) 01:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tagging
Not my area of talent I am afraid! --Matilda talk 01:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- Everything looks in order my end. Have you got an example? -- Longhair\talk 02:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tagging
Thanks for your positive comments. Excuse my ignorance, but how do I tag my new articles?? Cheers, Spy007au (talk) 10:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- Appreciate your help, as I am still learning the ins & outs of Wikipedia. I live in Millner, so we were probably neighbours at some time. Thanks again. Spy007au (talk) 13:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] in case you're not watching my page..... I'm headed off line
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} template.
- just back, never worry about dropping by to comment. I'm happy to help :) TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 03:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: zig zag
Fair enough. I used to live up near Kalamunda and only knew of the zig zag railway before coming to Wikipedia. I wouldn't merge them myself ... I like actual articles instead of huge monstrosities with 20 billion redirects leading to them. Graham87 11:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah I'm wandering through Category:Rail transport in Western Australia. I think I meandered through WA railway articles a couple of years ago ... it is certainly interesting to find out about railways I never knew existed, or just didn't know much about. There don't seem to be as many of them as there used to be. Graham87 11:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
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Out of curiosity, where does Canning Road actually go through? It seemed like a very long road ... almost a gateway from Walliston/Lesmurdie/Bickley to Kalamunda. Graham87 11:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Aha. Thanks for that. Maybe it just felt like a long drive when I was about eight or so. Graham87 11:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mount King William, Tasmania
Sorry about that, I was on new page patrol and it looked like it could use an explicit reference. The article looks good though. I'll see if I can find/cite a reference. -FrankTobia (talk) 14:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Trams
Sounds good. I remember hearing some years ago that there was also an extensive tram system in Kalgoorlie ... it was on 6RPH Information Radio but I don't have the foggiest idea what article they were reading. Graham87 15:03, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mongols and Java...
A quick snoop around with Google suggests there was a failed invasion attempt of Java - not quite as reported in the new article. How do you find these articles? --Merbabu (talk) 23:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] BLPs and so on ...
Must admit I gave little thought to wiki yesterday. I spent some time looking at places like this one for example. Spent much of last week defending Tania and now looking after Zarah, very gallant of me, no? Seriously, BLP on wiki is more honoured in the breach than the observance, and the "do no harm" principle is almost wilfully ignored. Very tiresome to continue to remove the same content time and time again. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 02:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Indonesian airport stubs
Here's something for you and the other members of WP:Indonesia to expand to Start class. Category:Indonesian airport stubs. Kathleen.wright5 12:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] oz project is a cat zone?
I don't think it is a category page - I could be persuaded otherwise but I am sure it is in wikipedia namespace. i did revert all my relabelling of cat = yes though which were in the category space.--Matilda talk 02:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- restored the deleted cat --Matilda talk 02:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- The Dog on the Tuckerbox might have something to say about our project being a cat zone... Orderinchaos 02:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] References & Citations for Mount Ragoona and Cathedral Mountain
I am not really sure of what your admin had in mind but any help kindly accepted. I tried to mainly stay within the framework of information that can simply be verified directly from the map quoted. A transgression was the info on the rockfall which would be difficult to reference but the photos do go a long way towards verification. Thanks SJS (talk) 14:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Template:Indonesia topics
Hi. Thanks for your friendly message. I realize that some of the links could be placed in different groups or more than one group, so I realize that's something people might do in future. Sardanaphalus (talk) 16:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Jawa
Learning to speak a bit of bahasa, boning up on the literature, and composing research. I've got tons of catching up to do. I got pounded with sakit perut for about 10 days, but seem to have come out of it. With all the nyamuk bites, hopefully I won't get Dengue too. Smilo Don (talk) 06:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Jave La Grande
Bit absent minded really - I was reading the Joseph Solis corrections of Jave La Grande to Java which were then corrected when the author realised that was the correct spelling. Happy to have that reverted - although it currently doesnt go anywhere. Or perhaps it could be linked to "Dieppe maps"?--Nickm57 (talk) 10:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] whaddayareckon?
Is it worth getting all bent out of shape over Talk:Exmouth? Or should I just leave it be? Hesperian 04:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] GWR railway to Willuna past Meekathara
Hi!
There are several prospective iron ore mines in the Meekatharra area, including one by Golden West Resources (GWR). [1] It is hard to keep track of them all! Tabletop (talk) 06:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] References
[edit] WP Energy project template
Hi, SatuSuro. Concerning your question, I don't think that there is any established practice or we ever had a discussion on this. I suggest to post this this question on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Energy talk page for discussion. I suggest to notify also user:Jorfer, who has developed this banner.Beagel (talk) 18:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Being around
Yes, I fly to Germany on the 10th June. Give me a call 0439 433 584, or leave a message at 9470 5334
Regards
John D. Croft (talk) 07:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] re: Srivijaya
I'm sorry but it's probably late here but I don't quite comprehend your concern. Are you referring to the placement of Category Srivijaya into various categories? __earth (Talk) 09:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. You may do it if you have the time. I'm still at work (heh! don't tell my boss) but I'll do it later in the evening if you haven't done so by the time I get home. __earth (Talk) 09:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Refreshing...
This is refreshing. At least he is honest about his lack of care for quality. What's best way to handle? --Merbabu (talk) 21:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] progress
yes even standardisation will be an improvement but I see so many things wrong and ... --Matilda talk 02:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Assistance
[[Media:Example.ogg]] How do you hold a conversation on each page without having to edit? How do you get your user ID and time added at the end? Peter Phelps —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter phelps (talk • contribs) 10:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Hills
Yeah no worries. I didn't know much about the rich history of The Hills .... how they've been used, abused, and so on. I can really understand what you were saying about how it's hard to cover all of it in just suburb articles ... history and nature don't work with artificially delimited suburbs. Graham87 05:51, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- No not yet - I'll have a go at that later today - should go to sleep soon. I'm just going through the WA public schools category to find out what's new since I last went through there a couple years ago. Graham87 16:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] By the way
I just watchlisted Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/SatuSuro. When when when? dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 08:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] decomposing indonesian composers
Thanks for the note. As you say, the trouble with this kind of list is all the world and his aunt wants to add a name or two. Don't blame the Indonesians, there's others twice as bad! If I did remove somebody worthy of an article put them back. Maybe even request an article. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Indonesian rupiah
Oh dear. Where to start? --Merbabu (talk) 00:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Devils
Yeah ok. The user doesn't seem up to any good. Give him a top level warning next time and if the user does it after that, I'll block him. No matter what I do, I can't get the date column to sort at all in mineral fields of Western Australia which is very strange. Graham87 06:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that's the problem - the table in European Free Trade Association works fine and it's bigger. Looking at the URL, there's a pesky "#" on the end" which isn't a good sign. Graham87 07:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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Oops. That shows the dangers of doing a global search and replace without thinking about the consequences. I was doing a search and replace of "Mar" for "3". That reminds me of when someone vandalised the swimming pool article back in Feb. 2007 by replacing "pool" with "poo". The next person to come along went ahead and replaced all instances of "poo" with "pool" to fix the vandalism. I, just a poolr sod, had to clean up the damage when I came back from a wikibreak. Graham87 13:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Demographics of Australia
Hi - given you have been doing a heap of the work in tagging articles, you might like to look at the latest topic I have raised at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Demographics of Australia on importance. As well as tagging for |Demographics=yes we can also show relevance to the project and thereby highlight priorities for improvement with |Demographics-importance = top or similar. Suggested priorities with reference to pop numbers at project talk page. Thanks --Matilda talk 07:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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