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Contents 1 Comments 2 warcraft universe? 3 Trivia 4 Edit 5 Satyrs/Fauns 6 Subterreanean Satyrs? 7 The trasformation of the Satyr 8 Twentieth Century Tourist Replica 9 Satyrs as Apes

[edit] Comments

The image showing a "small replica of a satyr" is in fact of a twentieth century souvenir, reinterpreting the satyr as a cork-screw.

This should be replaced with an authentic image, perhaps from a fifth century vase painting? Skeowsha

The line drawing of a sculpture at right is not up to the present quality of illustrations. I moved it here. --Wetman 08:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] warcraft universe?

who cares about warcraft universe? this is an article about greek mythology... so i think the 2 lines at the end should be deleted

warcraft pwnz u so stfu n00b

in fairness, other mytho-zoological articles mention the creature's role in modern fantasy fiction and frequently gives examples.

Then it should be stated that they are depicted as such in the Warcraft universe, not in the actual game. Satyrs are canon within the novels and RTS games as well. I do think it should be included if the fantasy/game is notable, which Warcraft is. In any case, fantasy worlds are often not only affected, but indeed based upon classic mythology. So there. I suppose it'd be redundant to cite LoTR in every fantasy depiction that includes tall sexy elves, though. --RoSeeker (talk) 05:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

The addition of the trivia concerning 'Pan's Labrynth' is erroneous at best and false at worst and should be removed (or fixed to 'Faun' and have the name removed). The faun (not satyr) is never once in the film referred to as Pan (or as a satyr) and is actually specifically referred to as having a name which cannot be pronounced. Furthermore, the only time that the word 'Pan' appears in the film in any translation is in the English title. 68.96.255.13 14:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit

I tried not to take out any information that was there, but when I was reading it I noticed alot of repeditive stuff so I tried to put it in an easier to read format and combine some of the repetitive stuff. Hope its ok. yes.

[edit] Satyrs/Fauns

The article about fauns meantions that fauns differed from satyrs in aving human feet instead of hooves. I don't know whether this is true, but it should be mentioned if it is. --Smajie

[edit] Subterreanean Satyrs?

I have deleted the section on Satyrs as living in caves under South America. The link given was a link to a questionable 'UFO' website.

[edit] The trasformation of the Satyr

I added a section about the transformation of the Satyr in late greek art and I would like to add more. I recently read an article on Satyrs in Nothing to Do with Dionysos? Athenian Drama in Its Social Context. As Greek society progressed they became more open and secure and they no longer had to depict the Satyr, the symbol of desire, as ugly and wretched with a massive erection. Rather, in late Greek art, they humanized it. No where is this transformation more clear than in Euripes "Cyclops" the last remaining Satyr play. In the play the older Satyr, the sileni lies and cheats just so that he can get drunk, whereas the younger Satyr is much more compassionate and tries to protect Odyesseus from his father's lies.

I think without talking about this great shift in the iconography of the Satyr the article will remain incomplete.

[edit] Twentieth Century Tourist Replica

The image, uploaded by User:Foufoutos who made a handful of edits in January, is a monochrome photo unlikely to have been taken recently; it does not depict a bronze from antiquity, as a glance even of the photo shows: sleek modern surface, inauthentic stylization of features. I moved this here, so we can get some information on where this statuette currently is and see what the copyright status is. Aha! now here is the Greek bronze in the National Archaeological Museum, Athens, of which our illus. is a coarse copy for the tourist trade. Compare just the faces! --Wetman 07:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Satyrs as Apes

The concept of satyr as a type of ape is older than the 17th century - The Book of Beasts (T. H. White's translation of a 12th-century bestiary) clearly describes the Satyr as an ape of some sort. (The illustration shows a traditional satyr, but the description is of an ape). Vultur (talk) 17:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)