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[edit] Congratulations!

Congratulations! With a couple of weeks of work, I have gotten this article promoted to Featured Status, as seen here. Universe=atomTalk•Contributions 11:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Atmospheres of giant planets

The data in the infobox relating to the atmosphere (surface temperature, pressure, atmospheric composition) are currently unreferenced and vague. For example, what depth are we talking about here anyway? this NASA fact sheet appears to have good data, and, best of all, similar data are probably consistently given in the related data sheets for the other giant planets. I suggest that we should amend the current unreferenced atmospheric data for all the giant planets according to these data sheets. Deuar 18:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive Created

I've taken the liberty of creating an archive of the old discusssions, as this page was getting a bit lengthy. I don't believe that there were any active discussions in the material that I archived, but if there was, please accept my apologies and feel free to revive it. Thanks! -Sarfa 21:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Imperial values of measurements

I recently removed imperial units from the infobox and various places in the Saturn article because this is a scientific article and imperial units are not used or recommended. Deuar reverted my edit and I wish to contest that.

Having miles in the infobox is cluttering and useless. Astronomical Units (AU) are useful and provide a sense of scale as well as being used by astronomers. The mile values are so big as to provide no sense of scale apart from "big". And if someone needed an exact figure they would use the km value in any calculations. Under MOSNUM Scientific articles are recommended to be SI. I propose these values are useless and cluttering and that they be removed.

I'd be interested in others' feedback. Jim77742 08:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Deuar probably reinstated them because they are present in all other planetary articles. However I think the solution is to remove them from all pages.Ruslik 09:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, exactly, I'm all for getting rid of them just that it looked like they were being removed from one or two random planets. Lets remove them from all the planet and dwarf planet infoboxes, however, we should also be prepared for loud protests, especially once Earth is touched. Deuar 10:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad you agree. I've actually been working backwards from Pluto and have got to Saturn and this was the first issue. I shall keep going... Jim77742 13:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd support removing them... it's a personal bias, I'll admit, given that I use the metric system, but I also agree with the guideline and the idea of reducing the extra detail in the infobox. (It's too bad there isn't a Wikipedia "unit preference" coding option - as with dates - as that would help address the concerns of non-SI users.) --Ckatzchatspy 16:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

After blundering around in the MediaWiki software development pages, I found the list of current bugs and feature requests (inside another system called Bugzilla). It turns out that "bug" (really request) number 235 for MediaWiki is for "auto conversion of units". The comments there have a discussion of possible markup syntax and challenges to implementing such a feature in the parser (precision, etc.). One of the comments notes that some version of "auto magic" unit conversion should someday be available as part of the "Semantic MediaWiki" extension to MediaWiki. Some related syntax is discussed in the SMW documentation, but it isn't clear to me whether it is currently implemented or only under consideration. A version of SMW was released in December, but apparently does NOT include this feature. And I don't know if/where SMW is deployed currently. But definitely something to watch. Rep07 (talk) 20:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Internal Structure

This article refers to the internal structure of Saturn as "having a small rocky core surrounded mostly by hydrogen and helium" and being similar to that of Jupiter. But, upon reading the Jupiter article, it states that the core of the planet is under debate (as in having a core, or not). Should this article speak of Saturn's core without a grain of doubt, or should it be more like Jupiter's article? Just a thought. — cosmotron ( talk | contribs ) 18:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

I would prefer:

Saturn is the sixth planet from the Sun. Along with the planets Jupiter, Uranus, and Neptune, it is classified as a gas giant (also known as a Jovian planet, after the planet Jupiter).It is the second largest planet in the Solar System, after Jupiter.

We should try to avoid trivial information in the first line. Reply awaited. Luxurious.gaurav 14:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism Found

Has anyone noticed the 'dununununu batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1' in the image caption? 206.213.191.166 (talk) 18:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe it's been removed. · AndonicO Talk 21:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect Data

I mentioned it on the main main page but it has now been removed.

In the data box it is stated that the orbital period of Saturn is 10832.327 days. I do not belive this to be correct. On other websites including NASA, they say it is 10759.0 10759.5 or even 10759.21. Now I can understand these slight variances, but on here they are saying that NASA is 73 days out. Could someone please check it out, because I dont like editing other peoples stuff. Maybe the 10832.327 is right and the 10759 is just an older obsolete measurement, I dont know, but I would like it clarified otherwise I will edit it!

This also brings into question the accuracy of the other data too, which I have not checked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.210.234 (talk) 20:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. The figure is correct, given the osculating elements at J2000, which I have confirmed. Saros136 (talk) 23:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

this page has been vandalized by someone. See the fist few paragraphs.

might want to fix that. K8cpa (talk) 08:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Day of the Week

Uh...I'm pretty sure Saturday gets its name from the god Saturn, not the planet. Not going to edit, because I could be wrong, but I think it's a pretty safe bet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.208.120.38 (talk) 12:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I logged in to make the same point myself - this needs correcting - I propose we just remove it completely as the origin of Saturday should be covered in the article about the God not the planet. --Bobgateaux (talk) 19:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
See this [1], the implication being that the use of the planet in the day name predated the use of Saturn as the name of a god. I'd wait for a reliable source before removing it. Can't vouch for that source, incidentally, but I knew of this theory and thought it worth mentioning that the Saturn connection is not just in western cultures. Bazzargh (talk) 20:04, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok I take that back. Having read the various pages on Days of the Week, Cronus, etc it seems opinion is that the Romans simply translated the weekday names, and planetary identifications, from the gods rather than the other way round; but it was the planet-weekday identifications that spread across other cultures. Bazzargh (talk) 20:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] help me

i cant find the origin name of saturn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.191.211 (talk) 01:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)