User talk:Sarvabhaum

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Your edits on Unification of Karnataka 3 Hinduism 4 Wikipedia:Vernacular scripts 5 Saffron Aum 6 Mea Culpa 7 Some links 8 Belgaum 9 Blocked 10 C.V. Vaidya 11 Maharashtra geet 12 Chalukya 13 Seuna and other pages 14 chalukya 15 Your edits on my talk page 16 Vijayanagara Empire 17 Your reference book is here 18 'Bhosale vansha charita' - publication information 19 Re:edits 20 Blocked for WP:3RR on Chalukya dynasty 21 Your citations on Chalukya/Rashtrakuta/Kannada 22 Edit warring 23 Reply 24 Nichalp's research and suggestions-My replies 25 Dispute 26 e-book dispute in Vijayanagara 27 Aravidu Dynasty expanded 28 Block extension to 14 days 29 Anthem article 30 Please stop your sock puppetry!!! 30.1 Satisfied??

[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Your edits on Unification of Karnataka

Hi Sarvabhaum, You seem to be a brand new user to Wikipedia. I simply love the freshness new editors bring to Wikipedia. But your recent edit on the Unification of K article is against many WP policies, most importantly WP:AGF. You have reverted to an edit by an ip where the ip had blanked content without any explanation, which infact borders on vandalism. If you have any concerns about that article or any article for that matter, please voice your concerns on the talk/discussion page of the article. I am sure your concerns will be addressed by fellow editors. Thanks and have a wonderful day! Sarvagnya 18:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hinduism

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[edit] Wikipedia:Vernacular scripts

just incase you are interested in the discussion. No one else is really giving input.--D-Boy 03:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saffron Aum

Hello Sarvabhaum, I have started a discussion on the Hinduism template talk page. You have recently recommended a image change in the article. While you can not directly change the Aum in Hinduism article you can on the template. Your comments would be highly appreciated.__Seadog ^♪ 17:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mea Culpa

Ooops, sorry! I didn't notice the edit properly. In the diff, it seemed to me that you had inserted the link randomly somewhere. I thought it was test or mistake, so reverted it. I've put it back now. Once again, sorry! utcursch | talk 15:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some links

Just in case you don't already know: Wikipedia:WikiProject Maharashtra and Template:India quick links. utcursch | talk 15:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belgaum

Please stop your edit war using an WP:SPA on this page. The order of transliteration is a trivial issue, and Kannada being the administrative language of the Belgaum deserves to be first. I am reverting it once again and if you continue your revert war, I will stop any further reverts as per WP:DFTT. You are free to continue your pointless reverts until an admin looks into this. Also, please stop terming content disputes as vandalism. -- Naveen ^(talk) 13:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. - Aksi_great (talk) 13:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. - Aksi_great (talk) 06:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, I reverted the article because the edit had been made by a blocked user. We do not allow blocked users to edit wikipedia. - Aksi_great (talk) 06:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

You have been blocked for 2 weeks for continued use of sockpuppets to disrupt articles. - Aksi_great (talk) 08:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] C.V. Vaidya

Please provide the name of the book, its ID, publisher and I shall order it. I love books and like to collect them.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 17:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maharashtra geet

I think Maharashtra anthem should be moved to Maharashtra geet. The term "Maharashtra anthem" is not common and sooner or later, somebody might move it to deletion saying that there is no "anthem". Also, Govindagraj's "मंगल देशा!..." can be included in the list. I'll work on the article, when I've time. utcursch | talk 13:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chalukya

Be consistant with the rest of the article and dont openly mention the names of historians, rather include their names in the "inline note citation". The world cant read Marathi. Please take pity on the world and dont include Marathi script in the middle of the article. This is FA so lets make it readable for the rest of the world. Seems like you are hell bent on using Marathi sources in English wikipedia even after repeated requests. This is a real pity for English wikipedia. Also since you claim to be using a book, please put full details of the book in the "reference" section in the same format as the other references. Also dont keep mixing Marathi and Maratha. Maratha is a caste, Marathi is a language. thanks.Dineshkannambadi 15:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you know the meaning of the word "preference"?.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 18:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

"Above is the meaning if u want it. Preference comes into picture when the claim has two citations in differnent langauges and one has to be chosen. Preference comes when choice has to be made"

You got it right. So we remove the Marathi citation and keep the English one as it has preference, especially when there is a contest. Do you get it now? Also dont try to fool us by giving the English language eqvivalent name of your native language book in the citation.This is not over yet.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 19:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

People have the same impression about you.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 19:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

{{helpme}}

Mr.kannambadi is removing cited info at rashtrakutas and chalukya. I have quoted english books and some Marathi books. Mr.Kannambadi proclaims that he will not allow marathi books and deletes all my additions. Whereas Wiki policies no where say that Marathi books cannot be quoted. Plz stop him. Sarvabhaum 06:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

There has been quite a bit of discussion concerning the use of non-English texts as sources. You can find the discussion at Talk:Chalukya dynasty#Descendents of chalukyas and the sections following that one. SWAdair | Talk 07:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Probably the best way to handle it is to bring it up on either the article talk page or his talk page. You might ask that he not revert but selectively edit to remove only the non-English references. Also, on your part, it would be best if you only used verifiable (English) references, and if you feel that you absolutely must include a non-English reference, do that as a separate edit. If you leave that as your last edit, then it will be easier for someone to revert *only* that part without reverting your other (non-controversial) edits. SWAdair | Talk 11:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seuna and other pages

I've e-mailed User:Dineshkannambadi asking him not to indulge in revert wars. I have also pointed out that the non-English citations are valid, although they should be avoided when suitable English citations are available.

If you two feel that talks are not resulting in any consensus, it's better to go for a formal dispute resolution process instead of indulging in revert wars.

As about the Seuna Yadavas page, there's no need to trim the Karnataka section since it's cited -- it'll be better to work on expanding the Marathi section instead. Keep cool! utcursch | talk 12:22, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] chalukya

You gave misinformation (as expected) when you claimed admin Utcursch uses Marathi language citations. I confirmed from him that he does not. Also Utcursch has confirmed to me that English language citations should be used as first preference and non_english citations should not be used when English books are available. thanks.Dineshkannambadi 14:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

"Also Utcursch has confirmed to me that English language citations should be used as first preference and non_english citations should not be used when English books are available".

Since there is no shortage of English language books, please remove your marathi book citations "and the sentences they are citing".Find english books and start quoting from them. Or please stay out of these articles you are unnecessarily holding up.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 15:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

If you are concerned about a Marathi book being used in the Seuna page, please discuss with utcursch and have that book and its citation removed. What is wrong on Seuna page cant become right on Chalukya page. It is not our job to go and clean up every article that uses non English books on English wiki nor are the mistakes by others a reason for us to make the same mistakes. If you feel Vaidya and Bhandarkar's views are valid, find English books written by them and quote them. Their views on a Marathi book is not for English wiki, but perhaps for Marathi wiki.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 16:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

your comment "Preference comes to picture when same matter is available with the books/websites"

my reply-->Preference comes to picture when the matter is conflicting. If the matter is the same in both books (both language books), there is no issue of preference. I hope you understand this point.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 16:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits on my talk page

The so called cited information you are referring to is disputed and please refrain from using them again. Also, stop your incivil and personal attacks against other edits and accusing them of sockpuppettry. Also, please note that it is you, who has been confirmed a sockpuppet master and using block evading sockpuppets on multiple occasions ([1], [2], [3] and [4]). --Naveen ^(talk) 16:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vijayanagara Empire

Please do not remove content from Wikipedia, as you did to Vijayanagara Empire. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. - Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 02:12, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your reference book is here

Author: Vaidya, Chintaman Vinayak, 1861-1938. Title: History of medieval Hindu India (being a history of India from 600 to 1200 A.D.) ... Published: Poona City, The Oriental Book Supplying Agency, 1921-26. Subjects: India History To 324 B.C. India Civilization. Location: Bird-2nd Floor Call Number: DS457 .V3 Library has: v.3

Please provide me with page numbers and volume number for your citations (there appears to be 3 volumes). I will be picking up the book you have referenced.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 02:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

It should not take more than a few minutes to add page numbers since you have the book.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 11:29, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

if you try to vandalise an article going thru FAC, it is equivalent to disruption.Please be aware.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 02:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia cant wait for ever for you to find a book to justify a citation. I have communicated with admins. After a certian period of time (decided by them), your citation will come off, untill you can prove it. Once you prove your citations by providing the page number, then the citation will go back on the article. Dont think your citations there will remain while your university takes its own sweet time.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 17:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Chalukya-->I have reverted. Please provide ID number, year of publication for your citation not just for C.V.Vaidya's book but also for your citation in the literature section. Also please be consistant with the rest of the article and dont throw names of scholars in the middle of prose. Put it in the inline citation.thanks.

"Marathi By A. Pardharipande, Rajeshwari V. Pandharipande, Published by Routledge (UK) " Dineshkannambadi 13:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

These are not my rules. This is what I have been told by user:Nichalpwho is a very senior level and respected person on wikipedia. Without an ID number and year of publication, you citation is invalid. Same goes for your literature citation. The so called citation by your pal dbkasar is equally invalid and invalid. Every citation will be verified and the contents of the page you claim examined. The contents of the pages will be made visible for all admins concerned. If your citation is valid, it will be happily included in the interest of History. If you want to make edits to a page it is your responsibility to provide full info, not the POV you have put there. thanks.Dineshkannambadi 18:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'Bhosale vansha charita' - publication information

Can you please provide the details regarding the book 'Bhosale vansha charita'? The Sawraswathi Mahal Library can be accessed here. Thanks Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 02:25, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:edits

It would be better if you could provide me diffs. I dont have time to investigate history issues. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked for WP:3RR on Chalukya dynasty

The duration of the block is 48 hours. — Nearly Headless Nick 10:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your citations on Chalukya/Rashtrakuta/Kannada

Please see message by user:Nichalp. Please provide ID for your book or be prepared to scan/fax pages cited to the list of people provided by Nichalp. Or your citations will be considered invalid.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 13:08, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Please see user:Nichalp's talk page (at the bottom). I have deciphered your citation (page 171, CV Vaidya) on Chalukya page entirely.thanksDineshkannambadi 02:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit warring

1. You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on Origin of Rashtrakutas. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. Naveen ^(talk) 14:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

. --Naveen ^(talk) 14:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, please refrain from edit warring. Note that 3RR is not an entitlement to revert three times each day, and indulge in edit wars over content disputes. Please read WP:3RR to understand the policy. -- Naveen ^(talk) 14:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I have posted some comments on User talk:Dineshkannambadi. I'm afraid but I won't be having the time to mediate anymore. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nichalp's research and suggestions-My replies

[edit] Dispute

Hi, I have gone through the sources that Sarvabhaum has provided and what was posted on my talk. These are my findings:

1. Britannica source says that it is probable that the "Rashtrakuta also spoke another northern Deccan language." -- This can be added, keeping it as vague as the source as to what language was spoken.

Dinesh-->unless you can prove that the northern deccan language was Maharashtri Prakrit, we cant add that to the Rashtrakuta page and most definitely not "Marathi" unless you can provide a source for that (the same holds good for Chalukya page). If you want dispute resolution you can go for RFC on this.Dineshkannambadi 20:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

1. Some of the Marathi scanned documents cited wasn't very clear, (resolution issues) so no comments.

Dinesh-->None of your Marathi sources can be allowed on account of this unless you want to go for RFC on this one. I suppose they will bring in a native Marathi speaker to help out with translations.Dineshkannambadi 20:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

1. If "C.V.Vaidya states that Chalukya are pure Maratha kshatriyas" and a source is present, we should mention it in the article. "According to historian CV Vaidya..." to balance different historian views. As long as the historian has presented published views, we cannot discredit it, unless his theories were convincely proved incorrect by mordern day historians.

Dinesh-->C.V.Vaidya claims that the Eastern Chalukyas were Marathas who became Andhras.We can add this in the section pertaining to Eastern Chalukyas. I will put in the citation myself. But if you want the word Marathi or Maharashtri Prakrit added to the Eastern Chalukya section you will have to provide clear sources. I already have a citation indicating the Eastern chalukyas encouraged Kannada initially later switching to Telugu. This info comes from my English sources and the govt. of AP itself and is in English. If you want to prove that the entire Chalukya family (badami/eastern/western) were Maratha Kshatriyas, you will have scan over the sheets to the RFC committee, when it is appointed. As such, the article already contains info on what scholars feel the caste of the Badami Chalukyas was (differing opinions exist, see citations provided). Your friend dbkasar was meddling with cited info earlier.Dineshkannambadi 20:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I have completed the Maratha origin citation in the Rashtrakuta main page and Origin of Rashtrakutas page. Dont try to POV in the Origin of Rashtrakutas page unless you can prove it with sources. I have also added the Britannica citation exactly the way user:Nichalp suggested.

I'm afraid I don't have any more time to mediate this dispute. Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

My message: I hope you realise that eventually without clear proof most of your content will not go on the Chalukya/Rashtrakuta article. What you choose to do with this info is up to you. dbkasar's descendent info are not cited correctly and hence is not permissible. I suggest both of you decide what you want to do. thanks.Dineshkannambadi 20:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Please find a neutral party (an admin) and I shall be glad to fax/scan over my citations for Seuna Yadava page. Also, There are several Prakrits; Maharashtri, Magadhi, Sauraseni, Paisachi. You scanned page did not bother to specify which.Also try not to become abusive. Your failure to come up with accurate citations is not my fault. Even if your source meant Maharashtri Prakrit, it does not mean it was a administrative language unless you can provide a source for that. thanks.Dineshkannambadi 12:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] e-book dispute in Vijayanagara

Hi,

Thanks for your message.Yes Dineshkannambadi and one Mattisse,behave as if they have the divine right to provide and control the contents in the Vijayanagara webpage.He argues that the Robert Sevells book is unnecessary,which is as ridiculous as Narayanamoorthy telling Computers are unnecessary for his company Infosys.I will probably re-link the e-book in a later date.I explained to him that lot of other wiki pages do have free e-book downloads,but still he objected and finally agreed.But it seems to me that do they forgot that the wikipage is a free editing softwareanyone,anywhere,anytime.Hope they understand that. Bye --Southernstar 16:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aravidu Dynasty expanded

HI

I have also expanded the wiki pages of all Aravidu Dyansty,rulers.If you can provide any additional information it would be of great help.My source is from the sources cited below each page.They are from books covering 17th century Tamil Nadu dynasties Madurai Nayaks,Gingee NayaksTanjavur Nayaks.Also the Vellore Fort,was one of their major base.Another intresting information of the the Nayaks is that not many people in India know that the last ruling dynasty of Sri LankaNayaks of Kandy(1739-1815),are actually from Madurai Nayak family,and how they ended up ruling Kandy Kingdom in Srilanka is very intresting.They all converted to Budhism but were of Telugu origins. Bye

--Southernstar 16:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Block extension to 14 days

Your block has been extended to two weeks due to your evasion of the block to continue edit-warring with User:Cmskp.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 23:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Sarvabhaum, your block has been increased again to 2 months. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:53, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Block extended to 3 months per the extra stuff in Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Sarvabhaum...why do you even bother? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

4 months now....Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

6 months. The next time it's permanent. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anthem article

This page needs some work to avoid being proposed for deletion. It needs a general English translation of the song and some explanation of its importance. Is it an official song of the area? Who is the author? In what circumstances is it sung? Good luck. Scarykitty

I moved the article to a more appropriate title, Maharashtra geet. utcursch | talk 03:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop your sock puppetry!!!

Please stop pretending! Hiding behind the annonymity of an IP Address [5] is certainly not going to fool anyone. Dont think that by using an anonymous login you can fool us into thinking that you are a novice. Your edits are too good to be that of a newbie. We have been watching and reverting your edits. You have been banned with good reason and after sufficient warnings. For the sake of others who may be using the same or similar IP address as you, please stop or we have to block the IP address(es)--Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 14:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Satisfied??

Is this what you wanted? [6]. Thanks to your repeated vandalism, genuine editors will now be prevented from editing the Marathi language page. If that hasn't taught you a lesson, I dont know what will ?? Now that you have been prevented from vandalising the Marathi Language article you are trying to take your frutration out on Konkani Language article [7]?

And regarding this: [8] your frustration is showing. Let me tell you again, you werent fooling anyone by hiding behind an IP address. We will be watching you. --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 08:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)