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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia

Welcome!

Please join us for the next Wikipedia:Bootcamp every night
at midnight EST (2100 PST, 0500 UTC) to learn the ropes, or leave a
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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia, Sarg! I hope you like the place and decide to keep contributing. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question at the village pump or feel free to ask me on my Talk page.
One more quick tip: to sign your name on a Talk page like I did below, the easiest way is just to type four tildes (~~~~). To customize your signature, look here.
And remember:Be Bold!

— Asbestos | Talk

You're welcome! I think it's a nice way to get a sense of the community here. Feel free to ask me or anyone else you see around if you have any questions — most people are helpful and quick to respond. — Asbestos | Talk 14:25, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Cheeses

Hmmm... that's very odd, and I don't have an answer. I'd say ask at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), but a simple fix would be to move Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Cheeses� to Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Cheeses... (using the move button) and use that link on the VfD page. Everything else would still work the same.
As far as I can tell, using the ellipsis character in a title is silly to begin with, since it can't be searched for using the Search box. I'm now creating the page Cheeses..., as there should be a redirect from there anyway.

I've had this problem before with linking to another article. Special characters in titles always seem to mess things up. Sorry I'm not much help. — Asbestos | Talk 14:10, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Salamanca

I was told this by my ex-partner who was a Spaniard from Salamanca (though lived in Madrid as a young woman and therefore anything but anti Madrid), and who told me this a number of times, i.e. that Salamanca was the Oxford and Cambridge of Spain, with the oldest and most prestigious university. I am not from Spain, and though I know both Salamanca and Madrid a bit, I don't really know whetherr this was just her perception, given that you are questuioning it. Looks like something that needs sourcing, --SqueakBox 15:56, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the comment about any university being the most prestigious, and put both your comment and my reply at Talk:Madrid. Let'ds see what others think and try to source which is considered the more prestigious, --SqueakBox 16:02, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mazzembly infobox

Cool! ;-) --Easyas12c 10:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page deletion

Is there a way to reverse the speedy deletion mark you placed on the George Washington Masonic National Memorial (not to be confused with the George Washington National Masonic Memorial, which should be deleted)? The server seems to have problems with anything to stop the process and I think the US national moment deserves a page. Thanks.

  • Hi. I've answered in your talk page. Sorry for all the problems caused. Sarg 06:53, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] your so lucky sarg

Beleave it or not you have just meet Namela the page savior, you can read more about me at the village pumps.Namela 12:23 may, 2005

[edit] Dublin

My pleasure. I presume you used history to see how I did. To be fair, for some reason, the second image was being extremely un-cooperative. It kept going over half the page and the text wasn't wrapping round it properly. Using <thumb> (thumb-nail) was a bit of a cheat, but it worked. --Red King 19:22, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfA on Argyrosargyrou

I've started a Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration on User:Argyrosargyrou. Please take a look and add any evidence you feel is relevant to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Argyrosargyrou/Evidence. -- ChrisO 22:20, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Welcoming users

Hi Sarg,

It certainly wasn't my own idea — if you look around at the histories of people's talk pages, I'd say about 90% of people here have a welcome message as the first post. Really, there's nothing formal about it: if you're looking at the Recent Changes list and you see someone editing who has a red link for their talk page (and you check that their not a vandal or a troll), posting a welcome is a nice way to make them feel part of the community.

Most welcome messages are actually templates, so that the person doing the welcoming doesn't have to type out the same things every time. There are a few standard ones, {{welcome}}, {{Welcome2}} and {{Welcome3}}, but many people, including myself, prefer to make their own (obviously with ideas from those and other templates, but with a focus on whatever policies or links they think are important). To make your own, you just make a new page with the message, say User:Sarg/Welcome, and then you can post it by typing {{subst:User:Sarg/Welcome}} ~~~~ on the user's talk page. You can see, for instance, that I have two welcoming templates, listed at User:Asbestos/Templates, one of which I used to welcome you on your talk page. Try testing a new template in the sandbox before posting, though — I had to tweak mine quite a bit before it was coming out the way I expected it. Check my code for one of my welcome messages to see how to get the person's name to show up.

Actually, now that I remember, there is an "official" welcoming group, Wikipedia:Welcoming committee, which has good information about welcoming users (though personally I didn't quite see the point of being a "member").

— Asbestos | Talk 12:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad that you like my Welcome message — feel free to use whatever you want from it. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:18, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the welcome (even if premade)

I have worked out just about how to talk to people now on here and ahve come to thank you for welcoming me the other day. I am very interested in you "bootcamp" idea and would like to come along. However, you say midnight, for where? If it is by American time I will have to be there at a totally different time you see and I really don't want to miss out on the chnace to come along.

[edit] Whats going on?

They say some teen is messing up user pages and makeing sock puppets is this all true? Quin T 12:44 6 jun 2005

Here's Johnnie! ;-) hydnjo talk 13:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re RfC

Not even worthy of our time. º0º hydnjo talk 14:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Me too. I have 9 prior plus 2 so far today = 11. Nothing to do in the boy's room I guess. ;-) hydnjo talk 14:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
First vandalism. Today at User:Bank of Wikipedia. BTW you may want to consider an account there. If you do so mention my name (for the bounty of course). ;-) hydnjo talk 15:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I got your message at Etacar11's. Thanks for your help. hydnjo talk 18:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your support

Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_>|< 08:14, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HTML Markup

Yeah I know. Teknic kindly supplied the code after I remarked on his Userpage look. I disabled it (for now) because I found it to be a bit distracting. I didn't want to delete it because I want to play with it a bit. But you're right, it does look a little odd just hanging up there so I'm going to move to my sandbox to do the experimenting. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cheers, hydnjo talk 19:36, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Vandal strikes again! :) Funny things happen when one is in a meeting... --Etacar11 20:58, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] you fool sarg

Hey sarg its me Etacar11 and im a lesbian and i whould like to eat your dick.Etacar11

  • Forging an account signature is so pathetic that there aren't enough polite words to describe it... Get one of this [1] and stop trying to bother me. Sarg 17:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Funny, one of my best friends in real life is now an admin (Syrthiss) and this person is now vandalizing HIS talk page trying to say in their broken language that you and I are "vandels." Quite pathetic. --Etacar11 14:31, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
      • You know, the worst thing about it is that I find him funny. Funny in a "awww, what a pathetic little thing of a person" way :) On the other hand, aren't you feeling particularly "vandel" lately? *chuckles* Kids these days... Sarg 15:48, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
        • I lean toward more sad than funny. Get a life, kid! :D Actually, he vaguely reminds me of an ex. He wasn't well acquainted with the shift key either, although he did know how to write a coherent sentence. --Etacar11 16:22, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] yeah whats up mother freaker

this is Etacar11 saying yes i im the user page vandliazer and i am the one messed up the bank of wiki.Etacar11

Hi Etacar ho are yu i im teh vandel toos!!!!!lolol!!!!1111 i im a mother freaker. l33t!!!! (this guy didn't go to school or what?) Sarg 15:43, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Woot! ;P --Etacar11 15:47, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Life

Hi Sarg, I read your comments regarding Second Life and wanted to let you know that I responded on my talk page. RexNL 00:03, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey Sarg, thanks for the welcome.

OK, so you actually welcomed me about six months ago, but I haven't had anything interesting to say in reply up until now. Thanks for the welcome, it went a fair ways towards encouraging me to contribute and be generally active, if a little quiet. You said "If you have any questions...ask me on my Talk page" So I am. I've finally added my first original article. I'd really like some feedback on it. Would you be kind enough to oblige? Titanium Resources Group How could I improve? --talkie_tim 15:04, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hullo, and - see you in SL

Hi Sarg. Glad to get your message. Im new to SL. I live in Corfu, Greece, so we're kind of RL neighbors ;-). Yes, see you in SL. I am interested both in the social and the technical aspects as i am also related to new media professionally. But hey, is Sarg also your SL ID? If not, please leave me a note at my talk page w yr SL name. Tx Iani 13:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Life and my eternal fight against the moderators...

Hi Sarg! Thanks for your nice welcome to the Second Life page. Actually, I have been updating it for the past two years — until the latest exclusivist trend of moderators has out-censored practically every bit of information I've added. Even my comments on the discussion pages get deleted. I'm an amateur writer, with some published works well beyond Wikipedia, and update semi-regularly other wikis, and are thus a bit tired of the constant struggle against the current batch of Wikipedia administrators. It's frustrating to spend whole days writing things to have them simply been thrown away, with condescending comments regarding what is thought of "best" editorial practices.

I was going to start a section of resources related to educational/business uses of Second Life. This has been scattered around many other sites/blogs/forums, and it would be a good starting point to explain what people are currently doing in terms of real life usage of virtual realities, and present all information together in the same space. So I looked to see how keen the censors are looking at what I write, and added a few comments here and there last week. As expected, they were deleted.

Today, I've added two pictures describing two typical usages of Second Life — one showing how avatars can be personalized, one showing the in-world editing tools. I eagerly await to see how long it takes until both are removed as well. If that happens, I'm sorry to say, it'll be my last contribution to Wikipedia. I apologise, but I have absolutely no patience to deal with petty abuses of "power". Fortunately for those who do their research on virtual realities and online communities know where they can find quality information available beyond what the Wikipedia is offering.

I can only hope that open-mindedness and a willingness to accept work submitted by other people, as well as dealing with criticism, becomes over time a major feature of certain areas of the Wikipedia. I definitely agree that nowadays the Wikipedia has to concentrate on quality of content, as opposed to quantity. However, the criteria established by amateurs and self-appointed petty tyrants are definitely not the way to go. Common sense, tolerance, patience, and an ability to deal with compromise with author's views and style are hard-to-find skills, and those exhibiting these kinds of skills should be encouraged to stay, not mindlessly thrown out without a second thought. If you have been active on the web-side, informational community around Second Life — beyond working in-world — you know what people have been doing, and how they have organised themselves to pool resources and information together. I see some of those people (at least the ones I recognize by their handles) eagerly trying to add content to the Wikipedia and be simply "shut off" with condescending remarks.

I'm sorry if I sound harsh. My Wikipedia experience in the past few years — not only here, but in several areas where I have added content to see it being deleted after a few days — has been far, far below my expectations. I can only hope for better days in the future.

Gwyneth Llewelyn 18:43, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Ellipsoid 3d.jpg

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[edit] Answer to Gwyneth

I am answering to Gwyneth's long comment with a suggestion: What about a Wikibook about SL? Sarg, please see what I write in her talk page about this if you are interested. Iani 18:07, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism on Second Life and GwynethLlewelyn's page?

Sarg, thanks for your answer on GwynethLlewelyn's talk page. I agree with you. I have left a longer answer to you on GwynethLlewelyn's talk page. I'll try to catch you in SL under your user name these next days. Iani 18:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PIITB

Yeah, it's back. But what's this talk about a previous deletion? Gazpacho 05:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD, Eric Goertz

Sarg- This is the author of the Eric Goertz article. Like I said, it is a notable case that even surpasses that of Borf's. If you are not familiar with his artwork, crimes, and media coverage please look him up. I realize that my article needs editing, I'm new to wikipedia. I like your article about the prisons of Phnom Phen and the reason I wrote my article is because there aren't enough speculations on heinous acts these days. Would you shoot an artist? Thank you, MPearl.

  • Hi! First of all, I recommend you to sign your comments by writing ~~~~ at the end of the paragraph :) About the article, I suggest you to work a bit more on it, specially trying to remove as much subjective point of view from it as possible, and trying to better assert its notability (in case it actually has, of which, I'm sorry to say, I'm not so sure). I'm willing to change my vote if these two points are addressed :) Sarg 07:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Men Of The Hour Productions

Thought it had be wikified.

I can continue reading but can't see what's wrong.

[edit] "maury deutsch"

Please dont delete the Maury Deutsch page, it is not finished yet, and besides it deserves a space on wikipedia.

[edit] Men Of The Hour Productions (again, sorry)

How's it look now? Is that okay?

[edit] Men Of The Hour Productions (hopefully the last time)

Is that good now? Is it okay to remove the tag at the top?

[edit] Did you know? {{prod}} can have a parameter.

Hello there. You have proposed the article Complease for deletion without providing a reason why in the {{prod}} template. You may be interested to know that you can add your reasoning like that: {{prod|Add reason for deletion here}}. This will make your reasoning show up in the article's deletion notice. It will also aid other users in considering your suggestion on the Proposed Deletions log. See also: How to propose deletion of an article. Sandstein 20:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible improvement to Pearle

Hi Beland! I have noticed that your bot doesn't seem to modify the cleanup and wikify tags if they are both in the same article. For example the tags I added at Homelink and Oban Camanachd. I think it would be a nice improvement if you could program it to do so :) Sarg 15:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Hmm. It is certainly programmed to do so. Some days she doesn't make it all the way through the cleanup list, as there are certain articles which are difficult to parse, and so the process stops for manual intervention. I think what happened in these cases is just that the humans got to these articles first. After a massive influx of articles into the cleanup queue, I'm going through this weekend and making sure the category "bottoms out." Thanks for checking up on that, though. -- Beland 03:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cleanup Isobel Warren ?

Sarg, I see you added a cleanup tag to Isobel Warren. But you didn't add anything to the talk page. The article has a stub tag indicating that more data could be added, and I've made a couple of changes since I initially submitted the page ... but what would you suggest in terms of cleanup? Thanks - ghoti 20:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I think the article is fine for a stub right now, so I just removed the tag. Good work! Sarg 05:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] db

Hey there. Just a heads up that it's better to use {{db-attack}} rather than {{db}} for cases of attack pages. Since these buggers are especially inappropriate, if you use db-attack, they are additionally listed on Attack Pages for Speedy Deletion and are deleted quicker. (|-- UlTiMuS ( U • T • C | M • E ) 09:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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