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Malcolm Reynolds

Hey. It looks like your reversion to re-insert an image overwrote a few copyedits. Screwing up on occasion is no big deal, but you might want to start being more careful if this happens often. --Kizor 12:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, thanks for helping with Firefly's image copyright issues. Those things are a *****. --Kizor 12:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

No worries - though I have noticed, and it only took three years, that backing down and walking away from the computer tends to be a better option than editing when enraged. (Things like heated policy arguments and AfDs in their final stages are naturally exceptions.) --Kizor 19:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Martha Jones

[1] What exactly was the purpose of that edit? It removed much character history in particular references to Torchwood, under the claim of "OR related to different character"- how? Was the edit a mistake or something else? --OZOO (What?) 17:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Right, glad that's sorted. Sorry for accusing you of vandalism in the edit summary. --OZOO (What?) 17:33, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Clanton

See [2] Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 12:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

HWA

Hey Sarek, what ever happened to the arbitration case about the Herbert Armstrong article? I can't find any trace of it in the open or closed case lists. Cadwallader 02:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


Maine Architectural Trail reference formatting

Hi -- I just saw your Beth Eden Chapel article for a NRHP in Maine, and another also announced at the WP:NRHP page. I've been adding complex PDF file references to many NRHP/NHL articles for a while, and was encouraged to use a reference formatting that showed the PDF file size, that is "named" and hence easy to call repeatedly, and had some other advantage, i am not exactly sure what, but the referencing starts out differently. I edited the reference in Beth Eden Chapel to the Maine Architectural Trail to "improve" it in this way, giving it name "metrail" for Maine (ME) Trail. To cite the same reference again in the same article, you would invoke it by <ref name="metrail"/>. If you are embarking on creating an entry for every site in that Trail guide, please consider this variation of usage. Any which way, welcome to NRHP if you are new to it, and keep up the good work! Doncram 00:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, Doncram: I was a bit confused when I saw that edit. I'm not convinced the ref is better this way, but adding the size was definitely useful. I'm hoping I can expand those articles a bit with some more local research -- if nothing else, I can run my camera down to Brooklin. :-)--SarekOfVulcan 13:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Good, glad you understand. BTW, there was a typo, an omitted keystroke, within the reference, that i just fixed. As if to underscore getting a good reference model is not easy. It displays the filesize better now. By all means take a photo, those are worth 500 words or more....  :) doncram 20:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Another tip. On the E. B. White House article, i noticed the NRHP infobox was sparse. Perhaps you are not yet aware of the Elkman infobox generator tool for NRHP infoboxes? It is based on the NRIS system, and is very handy, though its output usually can use some editing. I used it to fill out some more fields in the infobox. doncram 20:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh, that's a sweet one. :-) Thanks for the pointer!--SarekOfVulcan 20:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


Wrong

You can't just think of a new article to delete what good is me making contributions if every Wikipedian wants to delete it.--Angel David 21:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Maine Meetup

I'd be down for it as long as it was south of Bangor area... Bangor's a 2hr drive for me, and going that far to meet only one or two people would be pointless imo.... if we had commitments from enough people however, I wouldnt have a problem traveling that far. Keep me informed as to who contacts you, and what your plans are.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 00:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

L/A

I'd consiter going if it were in Lewiston/Auburn Chamberlian 03:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Lake Ontario Waterkeeper deletion discussion

You are hereby notified that further bullying on the Lake Ontario Waterkeeper topic discussion will NOT be tolerated. The list of articles I posted is objective evidence resulting from MY research and efforts at defending the topic. FYI, I consider your addition of a "Hide" attribute on the list a personal affront. KNOCK IT OFF please. Let ME present my case. This is a discussion page that relates to a topical and contentious subject. Show some respect, Garrett! StevenBlack 15:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Steve, I am showing you respect. You shouldn't have gotten that article deleted while you were working on it, and I've changed my !vote on the AfD to reflect that. If you make that AfD impossible to read, you're not going to have anyone in there long enough to vote keep.--SarekOfVulcan 15:30, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
If I read the related pages, Garrett, it's not a "vote". Why are you misrepresenting it as a "vote"? You had AMPLE OPPOIRTUNITY to consider my side of the issue, both in official and back-channels, and you changing your so-called "vote" after the piling-on had begun is ZERO comfort now. BACK OFF. GO AWAY. You're a bully, and I will NOT stand to be pushed around by you, or anybody else. Let me make my case, please. This is now all about the abuse of power, and I'm in no mood today to take any more crap from you. Am I clear?—Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenBlack (talk • contribs)
He referred to it as a "!vote", and as such he was saying the same thing that you are: AFD is not a vote. Hope that helps. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 16:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Why did you delete my comment? user:StevenBlack is being very uncivil and I see no reason not to call him on it. -Chunky Rice 19:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't realize that he had been blocked for incivility already. I still don't think it was appropriate for you to remove my comment, which did not violate any guidelines or policies. You should have asked me to do it. -Chunky Rice 20:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Masonic conspiracy theories

I was actually going to let it alone, as you and BB had gotten in on the discussion, but thx for the note. MSJapan 02:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Didn't think it was fair to only warn the person I didn't know. :-)--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 02:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Admin review

Sarek, MSJapan has decided to put his name up for Adminship, and asked me to nominate him. I have happily done so. Since you have worked with him for several years, especially on the various Freemasonry related articles, and have seen him at both his best and worst, you can probably add some insightful comments about him on the review page. See: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/MSJapan. Blueboar 12:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

That's great! Let me just review his contributions off the articles I've worked with him on, so I can be sure that I don't say any thing that's contradicted by the record. :-) I've had my name in for admin coaching for a while now, but haven't heard back yet: there's a bit of a backlog there.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 12:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

New sig

Your new sign looks like "uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs" on my monitor. Or is that Vulcanese? -- But|seriously|folks  20:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I <3 BoingBoing. :-) http://www.boingboing.net/2007/07/01/flip-text-upsidedown.html

Replaceable fair use Image:LimberjackDonnelly.jpg

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Re: PowerNap

It seemed like it, but if you check out the articles (both can be found online) you will likely agree that notability is not indicated (only in part because they are both Cleveland papers reporting on a Cleveland business). If you disagree, by all means create the article (in the past I've had no qualms about creating articles that someone else had already declined, though it's usually involved extra work on my part to show notability). Cheers! Precious Roy 19:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

admin coaching?

Hi Sarek. Are you still looking for an admin coach? I have some time lately. Let me know, Fang Aili talk 18:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching

I just scanned back through your contribution history, and it looks like your style is similar enough to my own that this should work well. Thank you! :-)

Before we begin, though, can you review my latest kerfuffle over Lake Ontario Waterkeeper and User:StevenBlack, including this off-Wiki thread? If you think I did anything that will sink a nom, I'd rather give my spot to someone who has a chance.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look! First off, are you aware that your sig looks like a bunch of boxes? --Fang Aili talk 18:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Nope, I wasn't. On my machine, it looks like this:. It's a Unicode string: if more people complain about its appearance, I'll flip it back. I was just tickled by being able to have a weird sig that didn't add tons of markup. --uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Might be your browser fonts, Fang. I noticed that Chinese and Japanese characters appeared as boxes in my browser until I applied the language packs for the two languages. I see Sarek's sig as upside-down/backwards characters. Not saying it's in Chinese or Japanese...but the similarity of the description struck me. You couldn't have gotten a better Admin Coach, Sarek! She's the best! Dreadstar † 18:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Good to know, Dreadstar. :-) Thanks! I see you have class="Unicode" in your sig: will it help the appearance if I add it to mine?--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Aw, thanks Dreadstar! And I'll try fiddling with the fonts. --Fang Aili talk 18:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Huh. Ok. I don't really mind, but that is something people will complain about, rightly or not.
About the discussion at LOW, this was fairly uncivil. Otherwise I think you did a good job of keeping your cool when StevenBlack was pretty much acting like a bonehead. I don't know how the off-wiki link figures in. Does Steven run something called Fox Wiki? --Fang Aili talk 18:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes. I've since written to him acknowledging that removing my "unwelcome" content from his wiki was vandalism, and apologizing. He promptly unblocked me -- but I still don't have any plans to add back what I took off. If someone else wants to copy it from an offline cache or something, I won't complain. As far as my bullets comment goes, I had no intention of being uncivil -- I was trying to be humorous by invoking "Madness? This is Sparta!" Guess it didn't work. :-) --uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. --Fang Aili talk 19:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Want to start a coaching page? --Fang Aili talk 19:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Done.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 20:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I just sent you an email. --Fang Aili talk 19:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it's still working its way through the greylisting. --uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 20:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

A Wizard of Mars

Thanks for the link. I'm happy to see that the ERB estate has permitted such.

I acknowledge that no one person will necessarily act in full compliance with rules. Having said that, I didn't state earlier that I stated immediately upon the offer to "get me in the Masons" that I said I couldn't, that the employer responded emotionally, saying "But we're losing members" in a tone of abject despair, and continued to basically harass me on becoming a member for a full week thereafter until I got one of the other officers of the firm to talk to him. I do not take the full nature of the discussion as being necessarily regular for freemasonry in general, given that individual's widely acknowledged tendencies toward emotionalism and self-aggrandizement, but didn't think to question the possibility of the "offer" itself not being at least acceptable by the rules. John Carter 15:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

  1. I don't know if it's something that involves permission... We'll have to wait a while to find out. :-)
  2. Ok, definitely out of line. Thanks for the clarification.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 15:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)