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This archive covers approximately from April 22, 2007 to July 14, 2007.

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HAPPY FIRST EDIT DAY! from the BIRTHDAYCOMMITTEE

Wishing SarekOfVulcan/Archive 5 a very Happy First Edit Day!

Have a fantastic day!

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My Article

Thanks I for that heads up. I'm glad you didn't give me one of those long reports about how wrong I am. I'm still a little new to posting article but all comments are apppreciated. I would also appreciated some pointers and/or advice.YungLegend07 15:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem. The links above are actually pretty good pointers, especially "How to create a great article." If you have any more-specific questions, let me know.
I'll be sure to do that. I'll have to read up some more on those. This was my first article that I posted but won't be my last.YungLegend07 15:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

CSD

Granted that WP:NOR is not a reason for {{speedy}}, WP:COPYVIO is.--Anthony.bradbury 17:16, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Re the DeMolay vandalism, wasn't sure how to roll back an entire page. I need to make one more correction, the version now up has some errors re the chapter officers. .--Darwin16 17:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

To roll back to an earlier version, click on the link to show that version, click "edit this page", set the edit summary to something like "reverting vandalism to last good version by Rand0mEdit0r", and save. There are some scripts that make things easier, but I strongly recommend learning the manual way first, so you understand what the scripts are trying to accomplish.--SarekOfVulcan 15:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Bujold citations

Can't you put up the citation tag instead of reverting the whole section? --Here's the stuff on how Sharing Knife is based on her childhood in ohio http://lists.herald.co.uk/pipermail/lois-bujold/2006-December/023761.html

The stuff put up is not original research but stuff she she's said over the years in places like Baen bar's chat forums and stuff. No idea how you will cite stuff there since Baen started password protecting the place. I remember her telling us about how Barrayer was from her question of "What does it mean to be a mother" and all the stuff with the uterine replicator and protecting the unborn child in the middle of battle came from there. The Bujold article is rated as "START" by wikipedia, and the definition says it needs more stuff added to it. That's what I was doing until your reversion. It would be better to let the stuff remain and add a citation tag, so ppl can help source the info. For a START article, it's necessary to add stuff instead of trim it.

Also, there's a section I wrote on the article about her involvement in cover art and the various controversies. It was several paragraphs....but it disappeared somewhere between my writing it and your reversion. It covered stuff about the Sassinak/Borders of Infinity controversy over gloves, her statement about Ruddell changing Mile's hair color, and her complaint that the "Pillsbury Nazgul" (her words) cover killed her Chalion series in the UK. When I clicked save after I'd spent an hour writing it, it came up with something about me having new messages and I found out about your reversion. Did the info get lost and not saved? It's not in any of the versions I checked and I'm not spending over an hour rewriting all of it from memory or looking up the citations again. I'm not used to wikipedia nor do I want to really get involved. Only helping out since I like the author and saw the article rating said it needed stuff added to move beyond START class as judged by the wikipedia evaulators. Well, I'm done here with this article. Good luck to you and the article. Maybe you can fix all the stuff lost.

Also, the the stuff about her father and her reason for writing the book is right in the foreword or afterword of the book Spirit Ring. How is that original research?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.205.176.157 (talk • contribs).

Mostly, I reverted because of the statements that she would never return to a theme. Bear in mind that nothing is actually lost in a revert: you can always go back to the history and re-copy the material you can give cites for.--SarekOfVulcan 01:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll leave it up to you to fix it since you're the wikipedian. And yes, she did say she doesn't want to revisit a theme she's explored. We were asking her if she would write about Ekaterin having Miles's baby. And she said she would not because she has already written a motherhood book. So she chose to focus Diplomatic Immunity on something else instead of motherhood. This was several years ago when she was writing Diplomatic Immunity or immediately prior to it, when she was chatting with us in the Baen Bar. Baen Bar has undergone a few server moves and since then, as well as a new password protection scheme to prevent internet users from browsing its content to presevere copyrights of unpublished material posted there. The discussion on the Bujold Article says that it fails to move beyond STart status according to the Wiki evaluators because it lacks content. Since you've chosen to revert my stuff, I'll leave it up to you to fix it and search out the citations. I see no reason why you couldn't have just added a citation tag to the section. If you're going to revert stuff without even bothering to ask for citations first, I'll leave the article up to you to fix. The "cover art" section is indeed missing and not saved in any of the versions. I was saving the Cover Art edit just as your message popped up and prevented me from doing so.

The gist of the cover art section is the Sassinak/Borders of Infinity/gloves controversy and fan uproar; Bujold's humourous observation (don't remember if this was a comment she made in chat on Baen's Bar or something she wrote up elsewhere) that the Ruddell (who is blonde) was morphing Miles blonder over the successive covers even though she wrote Miles as being dark haired; and the statement she made blaming the "Pillsbury Nazgul"(google it, her words) cover change by her foreign publisher for killing her Chalion series in the UK. Since Wiki ate my "cover art" secion edit with your reversion message when I tried to save, I'll leave it up to you to write it up.

The last edit by a wiki evaluator on the article's discussion page rated the article as "start" which the wikipedia defines as "Substantial/major editing is needed, most material for a complete article needs to be added. " In the course of your reversion, not only did you remove the personal themes section (as well as prevented me from adding another section about cover art), you also broke the link from another section to the Vorkosigan Saga entry for Dreamweaver's Dilemma.

"I'll leave it up to you to fix it since you're the wikipedian." Nope, you're just as much the wikipedian as I am.--SarekOfVulcan 16:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

A Klingon Bar

The Romulan was just a visiting assassin posing as a Vulcan. I had thought about that briefly, but unless you live in the central Illinois area I'm confident Admins will see through any allegation on that measure. Don't know how public you are, but my identity on the web is fairly open. Should anyone question that, I think we could point out that if sockpuppetry was the goal a Vulcan would do something much more logical than come up with such closely connected names. ;) Or maybe we could appeal to the Vulcan consulate; it is good to see a fellow Vulcan on WP.  :D LaughingVulcan 12:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. After all, editing Wikipedia is the logical thing to do...--SarekOfVulcan 14:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
And congratulations on your perspicacity. Most people guess that my nom de plume is a reference to Sybok, Spock on Spores, or occasionally the V'tosh ka'tur. You are the first person I've encountered who correctly deduced the name came from Memory Prime on the first try.  ;) LaughingVulcan 00:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Summers

Gosh, I don't think he was expecting that result.  ;) NawlinWiki 20:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Logic

You are fast. But then, it's logical. I tried to revert some vandalism, but you did it a second before I did.VK35 20:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music

Has been restored, next time just ask ;) --Steve (Stephen) talk 23:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, had to do it again...

...and be the first to endorse your candidacy for the Board.  :D LaughingVulcan 01:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

And many apologies, as I've been informed that I hadn't passed the 400 edit mark by June 1.  :( Hope you pass the endorsement mark and are elected! LaughingVulcan 03:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Questions for the Wikipedia Signpost

Hi! My name is Ral315, and I'm the editor-in-chief of the Wikipedia Signpost, a weekly newspaper on the English Wikipedia. I'm sending out an optional questionnaire that I hope you'll respond to. These questions will be published in next week's issue, and hopefully translated into many languages and copied to the Meta-Wiki prior to the election. (So, if you speak multiple languages, it'd be fantastic, though certainly not required, if you'd be willing to translate your answers into any languages you speak fluently.)

There's no word limit on any of these questions, but I suggest that brevity (maybe about 300-400 words per answer) is best. If at all possible, answers should be submitted by 16:00 UTC on Monday, June 25 (though late responses will also be accepted).

I'm posting these to your talk pages because they don't really fit well on question pages (since many will repeat questions you've already answered). You can reply to me by e-mail, or at my English Wikipedia, English Wikinews or Meta talk pages.

Thanks again for answering these, and good luck in the elections.

Sincerely, Ral315

  1. Do you have any other usernames or pseudonyms?
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  1. Ideally, where do you see the Wikimedia Foundation in 5 years?
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Image:AtwaterDonnellyScituate.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:AtwaterDonnellyScituate.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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Ken Burns photo

I was just browsing the USGov PD category, and I realized that Image:092205burns023.jpg is mistagged. It's got the Template:PD-USGov tag, but it's a work of a state government, which is specifically excluded in the fine print of the template.

In addition, http://www.uncwil.edu/www/copyright.html seems to contradict what you were told, but permission is permission. :-) I figured I'd leave it for you to straighten out as you like.--SarekOfVulcan 15:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I guess I can try emailing Mr. Moncrief to see what he makes of it. Indeed I do have his permission as noted here, but I'm not sure how the copyright notice at the university web site applies. Mr. Moncrief is the photo coordinator at the University, so one would hope he knows about giving permissons for the uses of photos. But thanks for the heads up.
--Mactographer 05:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I just took a closer look at the UNCW copyright policy. And it appears that permission for "noncommercial" or "educational" use is implied, if not actually outright fully given. However, the PD tag for US Gov use is incorrect as you stated, I will see if I can find a better tag.
--Mactographer 06:02, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Heads up

We should be honored... the Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of All England (splinter group out of the irregular RGLE) has graced us with his presence. He seems to be focused on the History of Freemasonry article at the moment. Just thought I would given you the heads up to look out for POV edits. Blueboar 13:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. I'll keep my eyes out, but be careful about chainsaw reverts...--SarekOfVulcan 13:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


Acadia

Thanks for cleaning up my references in the Acadia article. I'll be following that format from now on. Feel free to clean up any more though :-) Cosentino 19:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for providing them in the first place! It's always easier to clean up than to create... --SarekOfVulcan 20:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Biscayne Landing vandalism characterization

I understand. -- DS1953 talk 02:30, 14 July 2007 (UTC)