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Contents 1 More style notes 2 Saffron map 3 COTW Project 4 Kerala Map 5 Hollow Wilering 6 Butter 7 Infobox 8 FAC and peer review 9 Awesome work 10 {{Kerala references}} 11 Template:Kerala references 12 Please consolidate Edits 13 Kerala references 14 Chavez vote 15 Great job 16 FAC 17 Political integration of India 18 Lothal PR 19 Thanks from Lulu 20 Kerala is featured!!! 21 Military career of Hugo Chávez 22 Lothal PR 23 Saffron Articles 24 Rama PR 25 [benesu'ela] 26 Image copyright problem with Image:Vengdp.gif 27 Kerala nomin 28 Request 29 Cuisine of Kerala 30 Gandhi PR 31 IPA for "Chavez" 32 Lothal climax 33 Strange 34 Lothal is FAC 35 Thank you! 36 Sardar Patel PR 37 Chetwynd, British Columbia 38 Wikipedia:Defense of content 39 Saffron 40 Godmode light 41 Kerala TFA 42 Thanks for the kind words 43 You are featured! 44 Rollback 45 Peer review Kolkata 46 My RfA 47 DaGizza's RfA 48 Congrats! 49 Thanks 50 Hi 51 Something for you 52 Excellent work 53 Jinnah PR 54 Signature 55 Bravo 56 Whew!! 57 Reply regarding "Argumentative" 58 Jinnah PR 59 Jinnah FAC 60 Kochin & Thiruvananthapuram 61 Coordinates 62 IIM PR 63 Two honors and one for you 64 nomination 65 Suggestion for featured topic 66 Medal 67 SVG India map 68 Congrats 69 Patel 70 email 71 Hello 72 Darjeelimg 73 Congratulations 74 nn-bio 75 Congrats! 76 Congrats 77 Bambi II 78 Tagore 79 Question 80 Request 81 User:Pokiemehard 82 Nobel Templates Help 83 thanks 84 Thanks for voting in my RfA! 85 Tagore category 86 Request 87 My RFA 88 vandal 89 Help needed in the Hugo Chávez article 90 Kochi 91 article :Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh 92 References broken in saffron 93 Barnstar for referencing styles 94 Timelines 95 Indian urban area 96 Infobox 97 Harvnb 98 Template:Infobox Test team 99 Hi 100 Hello 101 Problem 102 Your self-reverted objection 103 Chavez: my belated response and apology 104 Rfa thanks from Samir 105 Re: Infobox Indian Jurisdiction 106 Template:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction 107 Surprise! 108 Clickable template needed 109 Request 110 Wikimania Awards 111 Where are you......?! 112 Re-evaluation: [2] 113 Venezuela unemployment graph 114 Kerala 115 Article stubs/sections placed in Template space 116 Muchas gracias 117 The lighted path 118 Happy Diwali! 119 Wikipedia 120 Good Work on Kerala 121 Indian jurisdiction infobox 122 Template help 123 New Zealand 124 Hi

[edit] More style notes

Note that the ndash is not to be used in phrases like "Greco-Roman". It should only be used to indicate a closed range, such as 205 BC–212 BC. Speaking of which, though this is not a requirement, I strongly recommend using AD/BC terminology instead of CE/BCE. It's much more common, especially among laypeople, and Wikipedia is written for laypeople, not for scholars (or anti-Christian activists). Additionally, it avoids propagating the POV that the Christian erra is for some reason the "Common Era". Also, it's shorter, especially when dealing with BC dates (BCE adds the unnecessary extraneous "E" letter), and, the final nail in the coffin: because it's so much more common, it's the system Wikipedia actually uses for all of its date pages—7th century BCE is just a redirect to 7th century BC. Ergo, to avoid unnecessary redirects (a good idea when you get a chance; burying the real link is better than forcing a redirect), you'd have to go to the trouble of typing [[7th century BC|7th century BCE]] (or the obnoxious [[7th century BC]]E) to properly use BCE/CE terminology. Really and truly not worth the trouble. In future articles, the best way to go is with the most common English dating system, not a much less common one fabricated recently by the Political Correctness police. PC and NPOV are not the same.

Anyway, sorry for that rant, you're doing great job on the articles you're working on! The only reason I give you these minor style criticisms is because I think you're one of the best editors Wikipedia's got, so I want you to stick around for a long time and spread some important Style guidelines along with the great content you bring to the table. -Silence 11:10, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I removed the – used in compound modifiers. But I don't think there is issue with BCE/CE, for the reasons I gave on the Saffron talk page. You could, of course, give a response to my remarks and I might still change my mind ... Anyway, thanks. Saravask 21:10, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Saffron map

Hi Saravask - very nice map! Was just wondering - could Alaska be de-coloured? (yes, it is part of the US, but I'd be pretty sure there's no saffron produced there, and it does look odd having it coloured!); and maybe England should be coloured (re Saffron Walden: mostly historical, but I think still grown there on a 'micro' scale for the tourists to see) - Happy Christmas, MPF 22:42, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

OK. Saravask 04:33, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] COTW Project

You voted for Lee Smith (baseball), this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

[edit] Kerala Map

Hi, I noticed that the Kerala map that you put in the Kerala page has been removed and you have copied the contends to your sandbox. I liked the colouring scheme that you used in that map, but the boundaries of the states in your map are not accurate. In case you plan to work on the map more you could use the previous map as the base map(which shows the boundaries accurately). Thanks and Regards. --Raghu 19:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I did use Nichalp's map as my base. If you could point out my errors, that'd be great. Thanks. Saravask 19:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

The errors are not huge, only approximation errors. For example in the case of eastern boundary of Kerala, there is a small horn like part pointing upwards in the middle but in your map it is a little rounded and pointing towards right. Thanks --Raghu 03:28, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

LOL. Yes, I see. Probably made those errors as a result of the eye strain I got when drawing that map. I'll try and take care of them. Saravask 04:12, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hollow Wilering

After her various sockpuppet block evasions, legal threats, and personal attacks, it's realistically pretty unlikely Hollow Wilerding is ever going to be unblocked, actually. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:29, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, what can I say? I still need to wait on the FARC until people (any people) answer my criticisms on that article's talk page. Saravask 23:40, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't looking for any actions. I wasn't following the FARC, nor do I have an opinion on it -- just wanted to make sure you weren't operating under false assumptions. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:43, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

False assumptions banished. Thanks. Saravask 23:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

You showed support for Indian Colloboration of the Week. This week Hyderabad was selected to be improved to featured article status. Hope you can help…

[edit] Butter

The secret is safe with me, my sweet. 141.156.219.72 00:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey Saravask, thanks for your work holding down the fort on Butter. Looks like it wasn't easy. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh, no problem. Always interesting to study how articles (especially non-political ones) morph during main page featuring. Saravask 17:39, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Hello there.. you may have had a look at the template used for U.S. states or England or States and territories of Australia. Its a fairly elaborate yet simplistic design (with no colors except for the gray bg - always difficult to get a consensus on the color anyway). Am not suggesting an exact copy or the use of all the parameters listed there for the template you are working on. But I think its a good baseline. The (M:F) ratio (and other things as well) if not available could remain blank, as it happens in a standard template. Cheers! --ΜιĿːtalk 09:32, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAC and peer review

To put up an article for FAC, you have to add it in Wikipedia:Featured article candidates too. Similarly for Peer review, you have to add it in Wikipedia:Peer_review#Requests. I have done the latter. It might be better to wait for the review comments before going for FAC. A mention in Wikipedia:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics will also help. Tintin Talk 23:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• Sorry, didn't realise that. Shall I withdraw it ? Tintin Talk 23:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awesome work

|- | |For your AWESOME work on the Kerala article, my heartiest congratulations! Jai Sri Rama! Rama's Arrow 04:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC) |}

[edit] {{Kerala references}}

Hi! Single-use templates are generally discouraged on Wikipedia, since the same thing can be achieved by just putting the text into the article. - ulayiti (talk) 11:20, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Kerala references

If that template is unneeded please add it for speedy deletion --syvanen 11:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please consolidate Edits

I applaud you for your industrious editing of Kerala for example, but you have managed to fill up the edit history which makes it more difficult to figure out what is what. Please try to consolidate edits. There are legitimate reasons to break up a large edit session into smaller edits, but likewise it would be a kindness to your fellow editors to find a happy medium with a smaller number of consolidated edits with descriptive edit summaries. All the same, thank you for your edits. Hu 15:56, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kerala references

I have seen your excellent work making Kerala feature class. Please consider these resources for potential references and info: Rural Libraries of Kerala, The Perils of Social Development without Economic Growth: The Development Debacle of Kerala, India, Historical analysis of the development of health care facilities in Kerala State, India, Modernization and Effeminization in India: Kerala Cashew Workers since 1930. And why no mention of the University of Kerala? Good luck, you are one of the best feature article writers Wikipedia has. --maclean25 06:40, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chavez vote

I must say I agree with you on the change, but not for your reason. Not all those who choose not to vote are "lazy" etc., etc. That's pretty mean-spirited, and in fact incorrect. There are people who choose not to participate in a political contest out of fear, ignorance, difficulty in reaching the polls, or as a rejection of what they may see as a corrupt and useless system, as well as out of apathy or laziness. However, "abstain" is also incorrect as this has a technical meaning in a political context. "Non-voting" is probably the simplest one-word replacement.

It was not meant as a racist comment — it was meant in the sense of noting people who "couldn't be bothered to vote" (as said on the talk page) or, like you stated, do not have the means or are disgusted by Chavez or the corrupt system. Saravask 07:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Great job

Here is a barnstar for your tireless contributions to improve the Kerala article. This is the first barnstar I have ever given out. You totally deserve it. - Ganeshk (talk) 03:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAC

Hi Saravask, I wanted to let you know that an article I've worked a lot on recently, the Political integration of India is now FAC. I hope you will have some time to consider the work and give it an up or down vote. Please don't consider this soliciting - I'm requesting your participation. Thanks! Rama's Arrow 04:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

OK. Saravask 04:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi - no problem with your edits, but just be careful that the size should not increase too much. Thanks for your help. I must go to bed for now though. Rama's Arrow 06:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Political integration of India

Can you have a look at Talk:Political integration of India#Copyedits? I've an issue there. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Done. Saravask 07:50, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lothal PR

Hi Saravask - I know you're busy with Kerala, but I'd appreciate your help on improving this article to FA level - would be absolutely cool to have an FA for India's greatest archaelogical discovery. Happy R-Day and 76th anniversary of independence (1930 declaration in Lahore) Jai Sri Rama! Rama's Arrow 21:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Rama. Beat you to it: I had already been glancing over it for several minutes when I got your message. Will give you some feedback later today. Thanks. Saravask 21:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks from Lulu

[edit] Kerala is featured!!!

Congratulations! It is pretty. - Ganeshk (talk) 22:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

• Well done Saravask ! Tintin Talk [who is still wondering how his name ended up in your writeup for the FAC nomination :-) ]

Congratulations! A great achievement! Rama's Arrow 05:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Congrats++. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 08:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Hope people can get more states featured soon. Saravask 20:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military career of Hugo Chávez

[edit] Lothal PR

Hi Saravask - thanks for your help so far. I really value your advice. Check the article again on Wednesday. By then, I hope to have addressed two issues: (1) incorporating prose-style writing, info from multiple sources (Shreshth91 and myself are of opinion that it doesn't look good to take info from just one source, especially an ASI handbook on the topic) and (2) Fresh images from my personal collection and cleanout of images with potential copyright problems. Rama's Arrow 21:36, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saffron Articles

I took the liberty of adding a barnstar directly to your barnstar compilation for making Saffron and its daughter articles in my opinion the best articles on Wikipedia —Cuiviénen (Cuivië) 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, great! Thanks. Saravask 00:02, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rama PR

Yo - I request your help on making this article a great FA. Been recently expanded, but needs more work. Jai Sri Rama! Rama's Arrow 07:57, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] [benesu'ela]

Dear Saravask,

First of all, I say I'm no native speaker, but I'm sure that [benesuela] is the correct IPA pronunciation for Venezuela in Spanish, even if there is no strange symbol like in English transcription. Spanish has more simple sounds, what can I do?

Secondly, I've added spanish pronunciation after the English one, as you said.

Finally, I'll invite you to join a discussion about pronunciation guidelines I've just started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (pronunciation). I do agree that English pronunciation is important, but native one is essencial. Bye. José San Martin 23:40, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Vengdp.gif

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Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. You can get help on image copyright tagging from Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags. -- Carnildo 06:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kerala nomin

Hi Saravask - I've just nominated Kerala for front page dislay: [1] Rama's Arrow 19:20, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

World saffron cultivation patterns
A map showing the primary saffron-producing nations.
	—  Major growing regions.
	—  Major producing nations.
	—  Minor growing regions.
	—  Minor producing nations.
	—  Major trading centers (current).
	—  Major trading centers (historical).

Hey Saravask,

I'd like to thank you for all your efforts on the Kerala article, if I haven't already. I was also wondering if you could do me a favor. You notice on the Saffron article you have several tables like the one on the right? Would you be able to make the one in Tibet (the first image) look as nice as yours? I would really appreciate it. Thanks. --Khoikhoi 04:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! It's especially the articles about small Indian cities that seem to be a magnet to linkspammers and non-notable people wanting to add their name. --Khoikhoi 04:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Is there any way to get it so there aren't so many boxes? I suggest removing all the lines and the "Tibet" at the top of the box. --Khoikhoi 02:08, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks! It looks great. Yeah, those guys are getting pretty slick...stupid vandals. ;) --Khoikhoi 23:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I like the new blurb that you added to Kerala. The whole article has improved immensely ever since you started editing it. ;) Oh, about the Chávez article, although it is very well written, I really think it is too big, do you agree? --Khoikhoi 02:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cuisine of Kerala

Kerala is a short article, well below the length recommended for subdividing the article. Cuisine of Kerala is even shorter. It is irrelevant whether there are 31 million people in Kerala or whether there is a notable food culture. What is relevant is that these two articles belong together in one. Fragmentation is sometimes necessary but never good. I trust that if you see it so important that this article remain separate from the main Kerala article, you will do something to make it less of a stub. Denni ☯ 02:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gandhi PR

Hi - I hope you can give some time to the Mahatma Gandhi peer review. We're trying to fix some urgent problems that threaten its FA standard.

In response to your message - as you saw, I didn't really re-organize (just compressed) the lead to make the blurb on WP:TFA. A few tips on the economy, culture would be good in place of the neolithic history. I'll be introducing major revisions to Lothal and Rama from February 12 to 18. I couldn't get to them coz I've been a bit busy.

Also, I want to compliment you on your spectacular work with producing so many FA articles. Wonderful job! Rama's Arrow 16:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IPA for "Chavez"

You are a little distrustful, aren't you? You're right, this is probably the best way to proceed here in Wikipedia and especially in featured article (by the way, congrats for it!).

Indeed, my IPA was a bit wrong. Just for a single character I mistyped (first e in Rafael is actually an a). The right IPA for Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias is: ['ugo rafa'el 'tʃabes 'fɾias]

First I have to say you that the English pronunciation there is actually the Spanish name pronounced by an English speaker. That's why you may say that I can definitively say that the first IPA is the Spanish-language pronunciation. The sounds are more or less the same, since a name can't be translated. Yet, the transcription ['ugo(ʊ) ˌɹɑfe(ɪ)'ɛl 'tʃɑbɪz 'fɹiɪs] came from an English throat. Native Spanish speakers (I can't say surely, but I think that Spanish speakers living in a foreign country can be a little contaminated), they don't know the sounds ʊ, ɹ, ɑ, ɪ, ɛ. Each language has its own set of sounds (and I dare say you have a very uncommon one).

So, you would never found the spanish sounds I used in my transcription, since they are not English sounds and thus they are not in the IPA chart for English. This article has nothing but the English sounds. Contrarely, the International Phonetic Alphabet article contains every sound existent in IPA, not only the English ones. You may know that there are sounds in Spanish that we don't in our own native languages. And vice-versa, of course.

You will have better resources in Spanish phonology, that contains all the simbols I used for Spanish transcription (remember I'm adopting latin-american pronunciation, not Spanish one). I also recomend omniglot. If you want to learn something about your vowels, this article is a great stuff: Great Vowel Shift. It explains why your vowels became so different from the next relatives of English.

Would you like a closer explanation of the sounds? English speakers will pronounce Spanish [o] as [oʊ]. You pronounce a longer vowel, and put a 'tail' in it. The rolled Spanish [r] (a strong r, like the slavic 'r' or 'r' in begin of Italian words) you will pronounce as {ɹ. It is also a little hard to you pronounce the vowel [a], that is used in almost every language in the world. It's the same open 'a' that german, portuguese, italian and french people have. Perhaps some people in US pronounce the 'a' in father as [a]. That [(ɪ)] is completely English and will never appear in any Spanish throat (or even in many throats arounds the world). [ɛ] is also a sound that doesn't exist in Spanish (even it does exists in Portuguese, French, Italian). They prefer use [e]. They also use [i] instead of [ɪ]. And the [ɪ] in frias is far from the native pronunciation. They say [a] in every letter <a>. And there's no [z] , just [s]. Finally, the sound {[ɾ] is like a shorter [r] and appears, for example, in Japanese 'r', and in Portuguese and Italian in the middle of the words.

Now will you keep my transcription in the article? I'm also writing transcriptions in the latin-american countries articles and you would be very glad if you could provide English transcription for them. (I assure you that, for a foreigner, Spanish transcription are much more easy to do than the English one. They are pretty complicated).

Best regards,

José San Martin 00:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lothal climax

Hi Saravask - Lothal is coming very close to FAC. I hope you will have some time to give a final look to the article, but even if not, your vote on its FAC will be greatly needed. Thank you for the advice/suggestions you gave earlier. Rama's Arrow 13:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strange

Hello, it is really strange that we never talked earlier. Or, did we? A big hello to you and nice to meet you. --Bhadani 17:40, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Please look here. I am sure that you are ready to take up the responsibility of adminship. Looking forward to listen from you. --Bhadani 17:52, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lothal is FAC

Hi Saravask - if/when you have time, please give a vote up-or-down at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lothal. Thank you so much for your help and advice on this - it took a bit long to get to FAC becoz I was a bit busy like you elsewhere. Rama's Arrow 06:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

P.S. - user:Raul654 is waiting for a suitable interval between Indian FAs, so Kerala is prolly due for March Main Page display. Rama's Arrow 06:23, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Wow, I'm honored! Thanks a lot for the medal, I actually think Soviet-era stuff is pretty cool. By the way, when will you be running for admin? If there's anyone that should be an admin, it's you. ;) Thanks again buddy. --Khoikhoi 05:41, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Latinus is going to nominate me in about 2 weeks. :) I don't think my RfA will turn out like Idleguy's actually. The people that opposed him all did it for the same reason: incivility. I think on my RfA the people that oppose will each have different reasons, which makes me guess that there will be less of them. Just a theory. --Khoikhoi 00:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your support! I'd give you a barnstar but it looks like you already have too many. Please continue to write outstanding articles. --Khoikhoi 00:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sardar Patel PR

Hi Saravask - I've put up Sardar Patel for peer review. I request your help and advice. Rama's Arrow 16:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chetwynd, British Columbia

Thanks for coming to my rescue with the copyediting. To answer the inline comments:

• it was "livable", good catch.
• was the post the very first instance of non-Indian habitation? Permanent habitation, yes. Nomadic Aboriginals (the Beaver) travelled through between Moberly Lake (and a trading post in Hudson's Hope) to the north and Gwilim Lake (and other spots) to the south. White explorers (like Henry Moberly and John Gwillim and surveyors searching the Rocky Mountains for a way through) also passed through but none stayed. And yes, this may be better suited for the history section. I am totally re-thinking that whole culture section. The gist of what I want to say is that their culture involves

• • longing for the golden age (they've been stagnat for the past 20 years but remember the innocent farming age and the subsequent economic boom from mega-projects)
  • public art (chainsaw carvings, Little Giant statue)
  • community organized activities (winter lights programs)
  • outdoor recreation (a community surrounded by mountains, lakes and forest).

• Daylight savings: At the extreme, the summer sun rises at about 3-4am and sets at about 11pm. At the winter extrmeme, the sun rises about 9-10am and sets at about 4pm. The rest of the year, the times are always changing to make it between these wide extremes. An hour here or there from Daylight Savings doesn't mean much since everybody is wake all "day" during the winter, and asleep all "night" during the winter. As for why MST like Alberta, and not PST like the rest of B.C., historically, the Peace River area (a major farming area) acted as a natural extention of the Alberta prairies so all the settlers came via Alberta. The Rocky Mountains (separating Chetwynd and northeastern B.C. from the rest of B.C.) was not pierced until 1958, decades after the area was settled.
• "at-large": At-large means elected by the entire population - everybody gets 6 votes in order to have a six member council elected. An alternative would be breaking the town into wards where there are a bunch of mini-elections, one in each neighbourhood, and the winners come together to form a council. It is one of those made-up terms social scientists utilize to make their area of study sound complicated and important. --maclean25 19:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Is "Chetwynd" pronounced as in "jet" and "wind" ("jet-wind")?

• It is pronounced "chet" and "wind" ("chet-wind")

What is the adjective for Chetwynd residents - is it "Chetwyndians"?

• I have absolutely no idea. I have only ever heard people saying "...from Chetwynd." I do not recall ever reading anything like "Chetwyndians" or "Chetwyndites" (and neither get relevant google hits).

Is there an exact figure available for this?

• Concerning male-female income gap, the exact (2001, averaged) figures are given in the next sentence. I figure we can just subtract the males' $42,426 from females' $19,396 to get $23,030 (more than double!) --maclean25 01:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

--maclean25 01:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• I did some work on the Chetwynd, British Columbia#Culture and recreation section. Can you please take a look at it? Is it better or should I revert? Thanks. --maclean25 05:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't remove any info but I did give the text a good work over and displaced some parts to other paragraphs (I hope it is still recognizable). I re-wrote to form a more thematic approach. With the "Culture" section my goal is to discuss what the residents are involved in artistically or recreationally (if those are words). I separated the paragraphs by theme beginning with heritage/museum (once I actually go there in the spring I'll expanded those two sentences) followed by public art (statue, chainsaw carvings, and winter lights displays) and outdoor recreation. Then media is thrown on to the bottom because I don't know where else to put it.

For the "Geography" section I consolidated the land/agricultural aspects into the first paragraph, followed by hydrology, then animal/vegetation aspects, then climate. It all made sense in my head so I would like to know if it makes sense to others, as well. Thank you for all the time you have been putting into this. --maclean25 01:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Defense of content

Hi Saravask - I hope you will have some time to study this proposal. Its a suggested tactic of delaying the incorporation of possible problematic edits to protect Wikipedia's content quality. Rama's Arrow 05:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saffron

I removed the gallery that you inserted from Wikimedia Commons. I moved it to the talk page so that other users can chime in. If you feel I erred, please state your reasons there. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 16:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Godmode light

When I first added the code as well, it looked weird. But after a few minutes it became normal. Are you refering to the gray boxes? That's what it looked like for me at first. I suggest you try it again - you can copy it from my monobook if you want. This time just wait a few minutes. Oh, by the way, once you've copied the code, log out, close your browser, clear your temporary internet files, cookies and cache, restart your computer, then log in again. I'm sure you already know this though. :) --Khoikhoi 02:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to tell you, it may take a few minutes to take into effect. Just wait a bit more. And don't revert your monobook, this is what it looked like for me as well. Sorry man, but I only speak good ol' American English. ;) --Khoikhoi 03:10, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I see the rollback is working. Like it? --Khoikhoi 06:10, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kerala TFA

Enjoy the day of glory and limelight for Kerala! -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 05:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! Rama's Arrow 13:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the kind words

About the TFA thing, I wasn't sure as I had not read the policy, but only knew it from experience. That's fine. Regarding Idleguy's RFA, I was truly stressed for a while. I really appreciate your kind words trying to ease my stress. Let's forget that episode and work constructively. In my opinion, it's a "visibility gap"; no one is at fault. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 03:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You are featured!

You might want to look at this page. Congrats! - Ganeshk (talk) 16:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

A curious question. How come you are interested in Venezuala (of all places) and its president? - Ganeshk (talk) 17:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback

Hi, how's your rollback doing? There was a bug which caused it to not work, but User:Latinus told me how to fix it. --Khoikhoi 22:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

To fix your rollback, do the following:

Find this line:

vandal = l[i].getElementsByTagName('a')[1].title.split(':')[1];

and replace it with this

vandal = l[i].getElementsByTagName('a')[2].title.split(':')[1];

That line is located in the function AddRevertButtons.

--Khoikhoi 22:10, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. Let me know if you need any more help. --Khoikhoi 22:28, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review Kolkata

Hi! A request has been made for peer review of Kolkata. Could you please help improving the article? Thanks a lot! --Dwaipayanc 10:53, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

My RfA recently closed and it was a success, passing at 84-02-00. I would like to thank you for taking the time to weigh in and on your subsequent support. And I know it's quite cliche, but if you ever need any assistance and/or want another opinion on something, grab a Pepsi and don't hesitate to drop me a line on my talk page. Thanks again. Pepsidrinka 05:04, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DaGizza's RfA

Hi Saravask/Archive02, thank you for supporting me in my RfA which passed with a tally of (93/1/2). If you need any help or wish discuss something with me, you are always welcome to talk to me. Gizza^{Chat ©} 12:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats!

Saffron is on the main page today! You'd put in a lot of effort to get it to featured status. Congrats!! deeptrivia (talk) 02:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the nice comment Saravask. :) BTW Saffron is on the main page! Nice work. --Khoikhoi 05:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi! Thanks for your help in the Kolkata page. I really did not notice that Rabindranath Tagore was undergoing a peer review and was getting readied for FAC. The article is very good. Bye the way, there has started some activities on Satyajit Ray as well !--Dwaipayanc 09:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Something for you

[edit] Excellent work

I have changed my conditional support to support for Rabindranath Tagore article. Good job. I should go figure out how to give barnsters so I can give you one. In the talk page of this article, I have made a detailed post about what I think can be shortened in works section with sample replacements. I hope it helps with summarizing the article as it is the only thing that can prevent this from becoming FA. I would strongly suggest advertising the FA candidancy of the article to other users so that you can get more supports. Good luck! --Blacksun 00:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jinnah PR

Hi Saravask - I know you're busy with Tagore, but I request your help on an effort to make this article an FA. I know you can really help us solve some serious problems and add reliable info. Please check it out whenever convenient. Rama's Arrow 16:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)S

[edit] Signature

Hi! Yes I remember that I uploaded the signarure. But cannot remember the source now! However, this is the signature that appears everywhere, I mean, on the cover of all the books published by Vishwa Varati. In fact, this is perhaps the only Bengali signature that is widely known to the public. I remember I knew the signature from my childhood! It will be difficult to arrive at a particular date/ year. Probably this was the source. Sorry that I could not help you much. Bye.--Dwaipayanc 18:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I think you can change the caption to "The most widely known Bengali signature of Tagore appearing in the covers of his works published by Visva Bharti", or something like that. Ot sounds a bit weird though!--Dwaipayanc 18:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bravo

		An Award
		I award the Barnstar of High Culture to Saravask for his brilliant contributions to Rabindranath Tagore and all the other articles he has so meticulously worked on. Well done! Splendid!! Marvelous!!--Dwaipayanc 19:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whew!!

I just read Rabindranath Tagore totally. And I tell you, I was speechless. BRILLIANT. Absolutely wonderful. It is a great example of tireless work. You deserve a lot more than just barnstars! Thanks a lot for such an article. Bye.--Dwaipayanc 19:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I over-agree with Dwaipayanc. You've really done a fabulous job! I took those pictures in Ahmedabad becoz I explicitly remembered that you were expanding the article. I can use all the help you can give on Jinnah - its a complicated and controversial topic and I can't do it without your advice. The article is under-going a lot of construction, so most of the reviewing and critiques will come later I guess. Cheers, Rama's Arrow 20:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

However, do lend a hand in upgrading India. I've noted that a lot of articles that became FAs before 2005 need upgrading, or else will fall victim to FARCs. Rama's Arrow 20:33, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! Tagore is FA'd! Rama's Arrow 11:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply regarding "Argumentative"

Well, the comment was there from many months! It is difficult to get a reference. Ar best argumentative culture of India as a whole can be referenced as in here.

"Prominant center of journalism"— does that need reference? I think not. Please comment.--Dwaipayanc 07:03, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jinnah PR

Yo - if you have time, please check out this article again. I've done a lot of re-writing and citing. Your opinion at this stage is key for FAC. Rama's Arrow 20:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Saravask - thanks for your help on Jinnah. I hope I haven't offended you by opposing your criticism of having Patel's bio as a primary ref. In any case, I've added refs from Ayesha Jalal's book and I'm looking for more. What is your opinion of having citations from a Pakistani newspaper chronicle and the government of Pakistan website? Are these reliable sources if their POV is duly left out? Rama's Arrow 15:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jinnah FAC

Hi - Jinnah is FAC. I decided to move on FAC becoz I believe that all remaining objective criticism will only be obtained there. I ask for your support and welcome all criticism. Rama's Arrow 15:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kochin & Thiruvananthapuram

Hey Saravask,

Long time no see. :) I noticed you made a comment at Talk:Kerala. Could you also make one at Talk:Thiruvananthapuram? Thanks. —Khoikhoi 00:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Adios, —Khoikhoi 03:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinates

Hi! You added the coordinates template to Kolkata. However, the coordinates you added are not exactly matching with coordinates given within the body of the article. Can you please tell where did you get those coordinates from? If you think that your source is very reliable, please feel free to change the coordinates within the body of the article accordingly. I am thinking about FAC on and from Monday! Thanks. Bye.--Dwaipayanc 20:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, the coordinates really do not match. The infobox says 22.82° N 88.20° E while the template says 22°49′12″N, 88°12′00″E. So the "minutes" are different. Now, that depends on where exactly the source measured. "Seconds" change at a distance of metres! And I do not know really at which point the coordinates of Kolkata are measured. I am really sorry for bothering you with this minor detail. --Dwaipayanc 05:32, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok. I depended on Google Earth to finalise the coordinates. Obviously it depends on where you measure in a big city like Kolkata. The zero point (The Raj Bhavan) was the place I thought would be best for coordinates. In fact, it nearly tallies with most sources. BTW, Kolkata is FAC.--Dwaipayanc 18:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IIM PR

Hi - I ask for your input on the Indian Independence Movement peer review, and Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow. Any advice you give will be greatly appreciated. Rama's Arrow 14:36, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two honors and one for you

Hi Saravask - you have done me a very great honor. The Featured Article Medal is something I had hoped to get eventually...one day...after writing 5-6 FAs....maybe. I thought it was very fitting that Deeptrivia gave you an FAM given your extensive success in writing FAs. This medal means a lot, and I thank you very deeply and strongly. Writing FAs is my passion here, and I hope to do many more in May. I've always admired your FAs for being so good over so diverse subject matter - from Kerala to Chavez to Tagore, its wonderful how well you adapt to either subject - I'm extremely overjoyed that a true FA master has given me the medal.

You have also done me a great honor in proposing to nominate me for adminship. I cannot go for an RfA right now, because I need to work on my weaknesses. I need to put in more effort in changing my temperament, get a better understanding of Wikipedia's workings, and help out in adminship-type jobs. Plus the editor review is on-going, and I must wait for anybody else's observations. I want to give myself a month to tune up.

But when speaking of who's ready for adminship, you have for some reason underrated yourself. Apart from being a dedicated page builder and FA master, you have a helpful and positive temperament, extensive experience and assiduous nature that an admin must have. I was just thinking of you two days ago when I thought upon the topic of new admins. I honestly feel you should join serve as a protector of Wikipedia's quality - it will complete you as a Wikipedian. Even as you create works of quality, you will be protecting the efforts of others. Being a page builder, you can have two avenues of concentration: (1) FA writing and (2) adminship.

You are my superior, and thus I request you to allow me to do the right thing by nominating you for adminship. Please do consider this, and accept. Rama's Arrow 02:50, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

To be sure, I will ask you to nominate me, when I feel I'm 100%. Right now I hope you realize how much Wikipedia needs you - you must help protect quality even as you create it. You will be the guardian angel of thousands of FA writers, and young Wikipedians. Even if you are short of time, being an administrator will give you the tools to be very helpful on the most important things for Wikipedia. Please do accept. Rama's Arrow 03:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Saravask - I'm very happy that you've accepted! It is only fitting that you are nominated because you are by far an excellent Wikipedian. I only declined your nomination for a short period of time, in which I hope to show work as proof of my commitment. I deeply appreciate your support, and I will ask only you to nominate me. I shall now proceed to create your nomination. I hope you'll be online right now for at least half an hour more. Rama's Arrow 05:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] nomination

It appears that you've gone offline. I won't be online again for four hours. Please accept the nomination, answer the questions and post the page on WP:RFA, so that voting can officially begin. Rama's Arrow 07:11, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I see from your last contribution that you are planning to accept the rfa nomination, cool, best of luck. However, I would suggest that when you edit the rfa to indicate your acceptance that you remove the votes that were cast prior to your acceptance as per WP:RFA/N. I'm sure you had intended to do so anyway, but I thought I'd remind you just in case! :) (Obviously, feel free to tell the three people that you have removed their votes and why, so they can re-add them if they wish, but this time at the correct step in the process).

All the best, MartinRe 12:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Finally the good work is on course. I pray to the Lord for the best, but let's also remain grounded in reality and prepared for unforeseen difficulties. Btw, if you have something to say or any matter of the past you'd like to clarify, please do so in your acceptance column. Rama's Arrow 19:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Great.--Dwaipayanc 20:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion for featured topic

We should try for Delhi. That would make a featured topic of "Metropolitan cities of India".--Dwaipayanc 20:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Medal

[edit] SVG India map

Draft 1 ready: Please comment here: Image talk:India-svg-test-2.svg. =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats

Tagore is going to be on front page on May 7th. --Blacksun 12:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey awesome holmes! And it looks like it'll come at the heels of adminship. Rama's Arrow 20:22, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Patel

Yobradda - please gimme your frank opinion of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel. I'm about to start the final series of revisions before FAC tomorrow. Rama's Arrow 20:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi - I greatly appreciate your taking time to give advice on Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel. I need to take a one-day Wikibreak, but I'll begin my final assault on the article on May 2nd, and send it to FAC on May 3rd. Sorry for the fresh delay, but I need this break. Please lemme know if you find any further issues in the article. Rama's Arrow 00:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] email

Yo - please enable your email, becoz I think its required for admins. I'll be on a break till May 7th, so I apologize for the delay in preparing Sardar Patel for FAC, and for not being present when (most likely..xx) you get your admin tools. Rama's Arrow 00:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Just to say you hello and all the best! --Bhadani 15:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Your help shall always be appreciated. Ditto from me. Thanks. --Bhadani 15:56, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darjeelimg

Hi! Could you please have a quick look of Darjeeling? Please give your suggestions in the article's talk page. This is for an internal review before moving to peer review. Thanks. Regards. Bye the way, ALL THE BEST. --Dwaipayan (talk) 17:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

You are right, editing the page is really intersting. Just a while ago I turned a red link blue and got to know a nice thing. See Mag-Dhog Yolmowa Monastery which is in Darjeeling. I would have put it into DYK nomination stating that WW1 fact, but the article seems too short. Not much info in the web as well! The history also turning out to be interesting! Bye.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

— Ilyanep (Talk) 21:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] nn-bio

I just noticed your comment at the end of the RFA — if this is so (shame on me), what is the most widespread definition then? Thanks. Saravask 23:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

{{nn-bio}} strictly means a biography that does not assert notability. Different from just being non-notable, in that being non-notable is not a speedy criterion, whereas failure to assert any notability is. Good luck with the RFA. Stifle (talk) 23:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Errr... make that "well done", I guess :) Stifle (talk) 23:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats!

Hi - my heartiest congratulations! Use your awesome new powers for good! Btw, don't forget to thank those (ahem...mainly me...) who supported your candidacy. Rama's Arrow 02:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Saravask! I'm sure you are going to make a great admin. All the best! -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK} 02:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks — the supporters and opposers alike. I enjoyed reading the feedback and comments from people I've long known and strangers alike. This is very flattering. :-P Saravask 02:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Felicitaciones, señor Saravask. ;) —Khoikhoi 03:07, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, actually, I've been dealing with two very similar ultranationalist trolls: one Turkish and one Romanian. Both are permabanned, their names are Inanna and Bonaparte. Incidentally, they don't know each other. Anyways, whenever one (or both) of them start attacking pages, I guess I'll let you know. :) Take care. —Khoikhoi 03:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi - I should tell you that I knew there would be opposition over your high edits/page ratio but I had faith in your overall record. I'm very impressed with the candid manner with which you dealt with criticism. I was overjoyed at your candour in asserting that adminship wasn't everything for you. However, the criticisms of SandyGeorgia and the neutrals is something I hope you'll work closely to address. I think you should work on extending the range of articles you work on when it comes to adminship work. Cheers, and good luck! Rama's Arrow 03:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

CONGRATS.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:14, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Belated congrats from me too. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:59, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats

Hello, and congratulations on you elevation as an administrator. --Bhadani 14:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bambi II

It isn't a content dispute. It isn't about differing opinions. It is vandalism. The content this person is putting in the article is completely made up. If you do a google search for the inane content he/she keeps adding you find exactly one hit: from this vandalism in this article. IrishGuy 18:02, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

He has just admitted that it is vandalism here. IrishGuy 18:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tagore

Congrats! Its up! Rama's Arrow 00:01, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats from me too. It was your energetic drive that made this article into a featured one. --Ragib 01:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

By the way, the DAily Prothom-Alo, the 2nd most circulated news paper in Bangladesh, had a news item on Tagore coming in wikipedia's main page. Check out here (unfortunately, Internet explorer only site). --Ragib 01:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Oi Saravask! Congrats. I once again read the article today! And just like the last time, was speechless. Quite interestingly, just one major vandalism so far today.However, imo, Tagore is in the watchlist of many persons today, including Ragib. And we should thank Ragib (talk · contribs) for his effort to publish the news in the newspaper site. I know, he has been instrumental in popularising Wikipedia throughout Bangladesh by many means, including the newspapaer Prothom Alo. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:27, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I just told you regarding vandalisn, and the page is now protected. LoL.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

In fact, it was not much vandalised. First one was deleting the whole content. It is usual for first page FAs. However, then something awkawrd happened. I did not understand exactly what happened. Perhaps some vandal moved the page. But thst is not in History explicitely. Then it was protected.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:58, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi! an user removed the word Iconoclastic from the 3rd para without citing any reason. Please see.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for this PEACOCK page. Its a good page. Yea, I agree. however, if you had used that term from some source, it should have been stuck to. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I always assumed you are a Bengali, but I'm not sure of that. Now, if you are, would you like to contribute to the Bangla wikipedia as well? (http://bn.wikipedia.org ). We're promoting it a lot in Bangladeshi media now, and in one month or so, we've added 1000 new articles. If you are indeed a Bengali speaking person, please join the effort there. Dwaipayan has started some pages on India and some others have chipped in as well. Thanks. --Ragib 01:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on your becoming an administrator. --Andy123(talk) 06:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hi! I have a request for you. Some months earlier you had done a very good job of making the state templates catchy & neat. I was hoping you could do the same for the city and district infoboxes. Would you be willing to do so? (I lack the time to make the changes since I'm working on the maps). I'll send you the details of what is needed if you agree. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! The information is available here: User:Nichalp/todo. I trust your sense of colour. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:22, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Pokiemehard

Hi Saravask. Did you intend to override my block of User:Pokiemehard? I had blocked indefinately; the account was clearly created solely for vandalism, and it was an inappropriate username. Let me know, thanks. ~MDD4696 01:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nobel Templates Help

Hi! Someone has recommended that the Nobel templates be deleted. Will it be ok if you also share your opinion? Here is the link: templates for deletion. If you check my talk page, he wants the deletion to be discussed in the templates for deletion forum, but he made the decision to propose these templates for deletion all by himself. Joey80 06:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

Hi Saravask - thanks for your criticism and advice on my editor review. Although I'm archiving it, please feel always free to talk to me about anything. I don't think I'll seek adminship unless I feel a need for those tools, and I'm definitely gonna work to be more active in the community and helpful with janitorial work. Rama's Arrow 17:25, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for voting in my RfA!

Thanks for your vote in my RfA! The nomination didn't gain consensus, but I'm glad I accepted. - Amgine 19:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tagore category

Would you please look into that? A particular user, perhaps for personal issues about Bangladesh (as seen from his contributions), is blanking them. I don't want to get into a silly edit war, so please look into it and the discussion thread. Thanks. --Ragib 00:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hi Admin! Here is some work you may like! First see, a, b, c etc. You will see the talks on Selected Articles in Portal:India. Many articles were SARCed after these talks.

Now many articles are in Portal:India/Selected article candidates. However, due to less number of votes, it is a long process. can you see at least those articles which do not have any oppose and at least 2 to 3 votes can be quicly upgraded to India SA list? After the nomination page gets somewhat cleaned up, more A-class articles related to India will be nominated. all India related FAs are automatically India SAs. and some former FAs related to India are also SAs. Please see. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

PS. Its time you consider archiving this talk page.

[edit] My RFA

Hi Saravask/Archive02,

Thank you for supporting my RFA! Unfortunately it did not succeed mainly because most opposers wanted me to spend more time on Wikipedia. Thank you for your faith in me & looking forward to your continued support in the future.

Cheers

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 09:28, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vandal

Very true, however, I waited until the third or so time reverting his edits before making my warning. I'll bet that he'll vandalize it again soon, and when he does, I'll let you know. KC9CQJ 07:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help needed in the Hugo Chávez article

I'm contacting you because of some issues with the Hugo Chávez article. I visit the entry regularly, but when I saw it yesterday there were a clean-up and neutrality tags at the top. I did a quick check and it has a much lower quality than when it got its FA status last year. I remember you for doing a lot of work on it and the military career topic. Since you seem like and expert on this topic, could you go and check it. I've already posted some of my concerns at the bottom of the talk page, but a lot of work is needed to save this article and we need your help. Otherwise I will have to candidate it for FA removal, and someone could probably do it earlier if this article does not improve quickly. Thank you. --Enano275 21:26, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kochi

Hello Saravask! Thanks for your contributions to the kochi page. The article is, as you probably know, currently under peer review. And it needs a lot of copyediting. Hope you can drop in when you have time. Also expecting your valuable comments and critics. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK} 05:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I wish I could write as well as you. :) -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK} 05:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] article :Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh

Saravask,

I don't know if it is the right place to do this .But since i beleive you are an admin, pls see the article Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh.I am having some problems over there. Pls check who is "vandalising" the page . I have already reverted almost 4 times in 2 days and i dont know whether that would also be taken as vandalism.Bharatveer 09:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References broken in saffron

Could you have a look into it? Thanks. Samsara (talk • contribs) 19:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it has gone away. Thanks. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 18:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

On another note, do you know who came up with that referencing style? I have seen you using it on the Saffron articles and Kerala. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 18:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar for referencing styles

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		This barnstar of diligence is being jointly awarded to COGDEN and Saravask for their pioneering work on referencing styles on Wikipedia, evident in Template:Harvard citation and articles such as Early life of Joseph Smith, Jr. and Kerala. Samsara (talk • contribs) 20:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I understood this, but you are the foremost exponent of the best use of the template, and your way of using it adds significantly to its overall utility. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 20:23, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timelines

I loved your timeline on Rabindranath Tagore. I have made another one for Richard Francis Burton but have been having difficulties with getting it to default to "hidden". I thought it was a nice feature of the Tagore one that you had to click "show" to make it appear (especially given its length). Do you think you would be able to help me? Many thanks, TheGrappler 20:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance :-) TheGrappler 22:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indian urban area

Hi! I did not know such a template (Indian urban area) existed, before you just placed it in Kolkata. How about changing the map to the india locatot map? Is it possible to retain the inset map of the city within the India locator map?--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:51, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Hi Saravask, great work on the infoboxes! Just a few suggestions: 1. Could the coordinates be moved up the order? Secondly, could we add a new variable: altitude in feet? I realise that a lot of Indian locations are still measured in feet, so I was thinking the field should be something like this, and would certainly be useful:

Altitude | 10 metres (30 feet)

=Nichalp «Talk»= 18:53, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The fmt is a little to esoteric for me. What sort of feedback are you looking for? =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I think there are too many cats. Dist headquarters and cities could be merged. It would be hard to differenciate between the two since most cities are anyways DH. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harvnb

Yes, {{Harvnb}} seems to work pretty well, doesn't it? :-) Also I fixed something which had been really annoying me: a bunch of the Dutta and Robinson cites weren't linking down to their reference properly. I worked out what the problem was: Robinson was wikilinked in the full Harvard reference. I wanted to preserve a link to him, since he is a notable writer on Tagore and does have his own article, but I did it by linking him in the "Further Reading" section instead. That was a bit naughty really (given that we are in theory meant to link at the first mention) but it was messing up the cite/reference link functionality, and I noticed other authors weren't linked in the references section who certainly could have been. Thank you for pointing me in the direction of Polaris: the Burton article now has an automatically hidden timeline. Was it you who designed the wonderful referencing system being used on the Tagore article? I really loved the way it was done: I've suggested that for certain purposes the ref and note label templates should be "undeprecated", they can be made to work very well in tandem with the new cite.php structure. I used a variant of that system (though without all the Harvard cleverness!) at One-day International cricket hat-tricks and thought that worked very well too. I know a lot of Indian Wikipedians have been doing wonderful work on the referencing structure: is this because library science is viewed with such esteem in India? At any rate I greatly appreciate it. I have stolen a lot of ideas from the Tagore article, it was my pleasure to come up with a new idea and "give something back" to it! TheGrappler 21:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox Test team

Hi, User:Nichalp reccommended that you take a look at this. He said its jaded and dull, I need to get it better for Indian cricket team which has recently undergone PR and is likely to do FAC sometime soon. Thanks. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi! Did you notice that Hugo Chávez is in FARC? The article is not in good condition.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling will be worked upon after June 15. I am busy before that. The article seems ok-ish, as of now.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:30, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

--Bhadani 07:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem

There is some problem in Darjeeling. The infobox is gone. Rather., a redirect is there that takes to Template:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction. I thought u mist be the culprit ;) --Dwaipayan (talk) 10:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your self-reverted objection

Hi Saravask, I'm surprised as to why did you revert a valid objection here? -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 13:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I was going to ask you the same after fixing the points that you had raised. - Ganeshk (talk) 15:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chavez: my belated response and apology

Hugo Chávez has been reverted to your FA version (without talk page consensus, and creating new problems, since the authors of the revert have not updated the article or its links). Events of the last few weeks have changed my view of your position with respect to editing the article. I have posted my apology to you here. Again, I sincerely apologize. Sandy 16:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rfa thanks from Samir

Dear Saravask, thanks so much for your support during my recent successful request for adminship. I really appreciate it, especially coming from an experienced admin! Take care -- Samir धर्म 08:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Infobox Indian Jurisdiction

In my opinion, the present infobox along with the locator map, is the best I've seen on wikipedia. Its a really fine job you've done. Cant think of a thing to change on it. But why not go ahead with your idea of a skyline? Even for those cities that dont have a skyline, we can substitute with a picture of whatever defines the city best. Lets see how it turns out.

Thanks for the comments on Kochi, Saravask. I've given it for selection on Portal:India. Nichalp says it needs to be trimmed down to 40 kbs before going for FAC. :-( By the way, curious little me has been dying to ask — is there any special meaning for your user-name? It lacks a vowel, and pronunciation is hard. lol. And where are you from? Please feel free to ignore the questions if you would rather prefer a secret identity. :) -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}15:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

The skyline picture has displaced Kochi into the middle of the Arabian Sea. Please come and resuce us at the earliest. :P I think we should perhaps ask on the India notceboard for thoughts from other wikipedians regarding the skyline matter.

Thanks for the tips. I'll work on that. And Btw, the Andhra part was really unexpected. Cant balme me, actually. Just look — 600 edits on Kerala and 4 on Andhra. Boy, I have renewed admiration for you now. I'm such a cheapskate working mostly on Kerala articles. :( -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction

Saravask, Need your help. Please take a look at Machilipatnam. I want the inside borders of the image removed so that the infobox shows up like in Mumbai. Can you please update the template code? - Ganeshk (talk) 05:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

That is the border the main template is adding. Looks like it cannot be avoided. - Ganeshk (talk) 15:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

You are right. Can that be done on Indian infobox too? - Ganeshk (talk) 09:37, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Any reason why you did not want to use Template:Location map and Template:Location map India That is much cleaner way to implement I thought. Could you please take a look at Template:Location map India and adjust the values there? - Ganeshk (talk) 21:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I see. The border is gone now. Looks great! Thanks. Ganeshk (talk) 22:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I noticed a small white line on the title (middle) of Ghughuli. Can that be removed? - Ganeshk (talk) 07:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Surprise!

[edit] Clickable template needed

Hi Saravask! Could you see of this is possible: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India Maps#Multiple location clickable map? =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:18, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hi! Where are you nowadays? We need some help from you. Please have a look at Satyajit Ray. It is in PR now. There are some concerns regarding the length and the style of organisation of the article. You are experienced in handling such biographies. Please help. You can communicate with Shmitra (talk · contribs) who is the main author of the article. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania Awards

I nominated your work on Saffron for a Wikimania Award. It is a great piece of work. Good luck. --18413746 23:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! Its among the finalists! :-) -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where are you......?!

Hello saravask. Its been over a month since your last edit. We are getting worried!! Where are you...?! -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Glad to know. :) All the best with your real life. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}05:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re-evaluation: [2]

Hello, I could not respond to you in time. I am happy to state that the goodwishes of many friends like you helped me in my re-evaluation, and I am back to become functional more constructively. --Bhadani 02:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Venezuela unemployment graph

I remember you uploaded a graph about unemployment I was wondering where it was, what was your source (I have a good idea) and how you made it, we are thinking of doing the same for other indicators in Talk:Hugo Chavez thx. Flanker 01:28, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kerala

Hi! Could you take a look at Talk:Kerala. Most sources I checked too say there was neolithic habitation in Kerala. The ref given seems to be incorrect. Could you please check it up? Cheers!-- thunderboltz^(Deepu) 04:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

PS: What happend to Saffron at Wikimania?

[edit] Article stubs/sections placed in Template space

Hi Saravask,

Congrats on becoming an admin. I have found at least four article sections/stubs in Template space; you were the original author:

1. 15:05, 25 September 2006 Ling.Nut (Talk | contribs) moved Template:ChavezLinks to ChavezLinks (Many bits scattered bits of info about Chavez in Template space; needs major repair.)
2. 15:05, 25 September 2006 Ling.Nut (Talk | contribs) moved Template:ChavezNotes to ChavezNotes (Many bits scattered bits of info about Chavez in Template space; needs major repair.)
3. 15:04, 25 September 2006 Ling.Nut (Talk | contribs) moved Template:ChavezArticles to ChavezArticles (Many bits scattered bits of info about Chavez in Template space; needs major repair.)
4. 14:55, 25 September 2006 Ling.Nut (Talk | contribs) moved Template:ChavezChavismo to Chavez Chavismo (I am puzzled. This seems to be an article, not a template. Moreover, it looks like it should be merged with Chavismo. I will recommend that as well.)

This is not the correct place to put them; if you are testing then perhaps a subpage of your user page would be more appropriate.

I put a note on Talk:Hugo Chavez detailing what should be done about the three incorrectly placed stubs/sections that I found. If you recall placing any other artcile sections/stubs in template space, then those errors should be repaired as well. Thanks! --Ling.Nut 15:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

PS I looked as far back as November 2005 and found these other problematic templates. I didn't go all the way back to your very first Wikipedia edits; perhaps you may want to check into that:

• Template:VEbox
• Template:ChavezHonors
• Template:ChavezCategories
• Template:ChavezReferences

Thanks--Ling.Nut 15:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Muchas gracias

Hey Saravask, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:34, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate the kind words. :-) Where have you been these past months? Do you plan to write any more articles? Khoikhoi 18:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah yes, of course. ;-) Take care, Khoikhoi 02:42, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The lighted path

I wish you All The Best on the ocasion of the Indian festival of light, Diwali. I am sure that the light of hope, confidence, and all positive attributes shall always remain inside you – lighting your path and guiding you to attain higher and higher levels of excellence in all your endevours! All the best! --Bhadani 16:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Diwali!

I wish you and your family a happy "Festival of Lights"! Nishkid64 17:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

A belated happy Diwali!--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia

Yes. Now, I feel more calm and comfortable. I keep away a lot of things, and the wiki-life is now fine! Thanks. --Bhadani 21:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Work on Kerala

Good to see your efforts in copy editing the Kerala page. Keep going. -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me...)} :-) 09:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Saravask. :) Please be active once again. Wikipedia needs you, editor!--thunderboltz^(Deepu) 15:26, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indian jurisdiction infobox

I see you testing a change that will put state-level maps on the Infobox. I was wondering if it is really needed? Why can't we have the locator map used across all boxes so it is consistent. State level maps can be added in a section below, may be under Administration. Please let me know what you feel about this. -- Ganeshk (talk) 07:14, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The american boxes have a systemic bias. They assume that the user is already aware of the location of state and city w.r.t United States/World. I just saw Image:India_Andhra_Pradesh_locator_map.svg (I should have checked it first before I wrote you the above message). I am fine with a image such as this. I assumed you would zoom in the state and show only the state-borders. The new locator maps are little different from Nichalp's one. These were developed by PlaneMad and have a different fomatting. Nichalp's map is more flat. I feel the co-ords will get misplaced on the new maps. We need some testing I think. -- Ganeshk (talk) 07:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I tried a different locator dot here. Please comment. -- Ganeshk (talk) 08:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

(gentle reminder) I would suggest we not do any testing on the template directly. I read somewhere any change to the template is huge-resource-hog on the server. It needs to replicate the change to around 7000 articles that you use it. Please use sandbox for testing. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 09:05, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

New dot looks good. :) Good to see you back to template editing. -- Ganeshk (talk) 09:10, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template help

Saravask, When you get a chance, can you please look at User:Ganeshk/sandbox2 and tell me where some extra spaces are. If you check the talk page, a blank space is getting generated in between the boxes. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 08:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand

Hi Saravask, unfortunately I don't edit NZ/Australia articles, so I'm not very familar with any of the vandals/trolls over there. I know of one editor from New Zealand, however (Gutness). Perhaps you could ask him? Sorry I couldn't be of very much help. Cheers, Khoikhoi 01:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I think it's time to archive your talk page... Khoikhoi 01:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi, I went back and checked the 9th September version you mentioned in your India talk page note. When I first saw that lead in September, I must say I liked it and over the month that I observed it (until I jumped into the fray myself around 9th October), I too was saddened by the back and forth. However, I now feel that a lead like that is problematic. I will write a separate section on the India talk page in the next day or two detailing my reasons. In the mean time please take a look at this conversation for some of my reasons. Also please read the following two conversations for some of the motivations behind some changes: Introduction biased and Poverty. Fowler&fowler 16:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC) Clarified. Fowler&fowler 16:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)