Talk:Sarbel
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Sarbel is a hugely talented and impressive singer who has become a major part of European and Middle Eastern music in a matter of months! i love his voice and his wide range of music and without a doubt, recommend him to all listeners out there!
He is Lebo and Greek Theo Christophanou, North London
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[edit] revert war?
These edits [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] make it pretty clear that we don't yet have consensus on the issue of whether Sarbel is of Lebanese origin, and if so to what extent it should be mentionned in the article. Can we work out an NPOV here on that talk page, rather than constantly reverting the article? I am neutral in this debate, I'm just sick of all the reverts. Segv11 (talk/contribs) 05:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- As far as I have always understood, Sarbel has a Greek Cypriot mother and Lebanese father. So to say he is "of British and Lebanese descent" is incorrect. 81.110.77.229
- so if he has a Greek-cypriot father and a lebanese mother why is the country of his origin Greece? Shouldnt it be Cyprus or Lebanon? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.1.72.245 (talk) 11:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
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- No. According to wikipedia, Origin is where the singer started their musical career, which is also in the begging paragraph. Greekboy 17:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Also just puting this in here. "In an interview in March 2007, Sarbel made it clear that he dosnt want an international career by saying "I don't care neither being famous abroad nor start an international career. I only care for Greece. I grew up abroad but choose to live in Greece. I can't tell you whether Eurovision helps my career or not, because I don't know. It's very dangerous. However, it is an experience I want to live. I want to have fun in the Contest and do my best.".
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On TV, he also said "I'm not English, but I was just raised there.". With that said, the origin field on the wikipedia is for where the singer started his career and his famous in. So it would be Greece anyway. Greekboy 21:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- From what I've read in Greek magazines both his parents are from Agia Marina Αγία Μαρίνα, Cyprus, his dad's name is Ilias Michael(Ηλίας Μιχαήλ) son of Marianna(Μαριάννας) and Michael Xanni(Μιχαήλ Χαννή). His mother's name is Josephina(Τζοζεφίνα) daughter of Eleni(Ελένης) and Ilias Tzoubani(Ηλία Τζουβάνη) of Maronite ancestry. Most Cypriot Maronites are of Lebanese origins but after the 1974 seperation of the island most, along with Greek Cypriots, relocated to Southern Cyprus. Because of their dispersal the Maronites are rapidly being assimilated and absorbed into the wider Greek Cypriot community, mainly through inter-marriage.Maronite community of Cyprusxxx 5 July 2007
[edit] Name in Arabic
As we have Sarbel's name in Greek characters, I think it is only appropriate to be fair and include an Arabic counterpart. Can an Arabic-speaker here help? Bear in mind Sarbel's surname, 'Michael', is pronounced Mee-ha-eel (the 'h' being heavy and sounding somewhat close to the German or Scottish 'ch', and the stress being on the 'eel'). Cypriot stud 18:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- I did a search of Charbel(Which is another English version spelling of his Arabic name other then Sarbel) and came across this spelling in Arabic شربل. His last name Michael is Greek so I'm not exactly sure how that would be spelled in Arabic. Hope this helps some. :) xxx 5 July 2007
[edit] WikiProject class rating
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kokkinou departure? its an plane? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feta (talk • contribs) 01:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Name
I was always taught in Greek school that taf and sigma make a "ch", but i realize that its more like a "ts". Thats closer than just an "s", no? Anyway, is it pronounced Charbel "ch" like in cheese?Grk1011 (talk) 22:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
like "sh" in sheep Sharbel--194.171.56.13 (talk) 12:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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- I'm not sure how its pronounced originally, but in Greece they dropped the ch or ts sound, and just use and pronounce it with an S. I think it wad done for marketing, since the Greek alphabet dosnt really have a "ch" sound (just a ts sound like you said). Now, Sarbel himself pronounces it with an s (like s-ar-bel), as does the media, and thats how its written on the CDs.Greekboy (talk) 03:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Charbel is simply the French way of writing the Maronite name that is pronounced Sharbel; there is no t in the original name, hence no ch or ts sound. If the British rather than the French had been the colonial masters of Lebanon, I'm sure it would have been transliterated accordingly. And because standard Greek lacks the sh sound, it is reduced to the closest sound, i.e. s, which Greek possesses in abundance. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 03:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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