Talk:Sarah Connor (singer)
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[edit] Myspace Links
Does Sarah have an official myspace? Or is there one that is highly used? I seen 2 removed as 'vandalisim' but if there is a good myspace page it shouldnt be removed. There WAS a good one but it seems to have disappeared or been deleted. I dont know my German inability isnt helping here. Thanks. user:Thegingerone
[edit] whistle register
when does she hit whistle register
She hits F#6 in "Summertime" - A Night to Remember —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.210.165.38 (talk) 22:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalisim
It seems the past few weeks certain unregistered users are doing pointless unfactual edits (the last one was saying her American album wasnt #112 (which it was) but #1). This is getting annoying so please stop.
[edit] Intro writting
I think the comments about her genre is clunky. Maybe rewrite it? I tried but I couldnt think of the proper way. Also she is one of the best selling German female artists of all time...I dont see why that should be removed. And on the note of genres (a big reason its clunky) though she changes the style with various albums she always seems to have a mix of pop, hip pop (hip hop mixed with pop), and blue eyed soul; though in recent years she kinda didnt do as much hip pop. I dont know lets discuss it here and then we can rework it. --Thegingerone 22:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 'Impossible Dream' origin
Dear Thegingerone, in this edit you stated that "all the articles" said that the "Impossible Dream" is by Diana Ross. What articles do you mean by that? The Diana Ross & the Supremes Join the Temptations actually says that the song is taken from Man of La Mancha, and the La Mancha article itself states that the whole thing is by Joe Darion and Mitch Leigh. The Diana Ross, Diana Ross & the Supremes, and The Temptations articles don't seem to mention the song at all. Anyway, I've got no other sources either, I just remember seeing the musical on TV, but I can at least offer the IBDB link from the La Mancha link list (where the Impossible Dream is in the song list). --H.A.L. 09:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
BTW, I've changed the tenses in the Soulicious paragraph to present/past. The discography page states the album as "released (Germany)" on Mar 30th, maybe you can change that if it wasn't released in the English-speaking countries as well. --H.A.L. 09:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Birth name
Currently the article quotes her surname at birth as both 'Lewe' and Leve'. Which is correct ?
Derek R Bullamore 21:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I really doubt that her name was Tulaganova. This is a Central Asian name. None of the parents have this origin. Also how can a woman sing in the same year when she was born. Please someone correct it.
- Her birth name is Sarah Lewe. La Lovely 17:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)--
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[edit] the article is a shame!
It's unsourced, it's full of irrelevant gossip and written in a very bad English. And when a user adds a tag please remove it only when the tag's requirements are fulfilled. --Fromgermany (talk) 23:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree as it was already pretty well referenced. But I went back through and cleaned it up, and referenced a few more things. Should be good now! As for 'irrelavant gossip' Im not sure what your referring but cutting out any major media things with her is not right. Her dress controversy, and anthem incident were both major media events when they occured. Not sure what other gossip there may be. I tried my best to keep it all relevant; and its funny you dont like my English as its the only language I speak! Well hopefully its all satisfiable now...I dont want an edit war. --Thegingerone (talk) 06:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- Do not speculate. Refrain from adding your own point of view. Do not use Hyperboles. Keep to a strict encyclopedic style. --Fromgermany (talk) 10:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- My own point of view really isnt in there. She was heavily pregnant and has said this is why she didnt promote Bounce. However I dont speak German so no I dont have all the articles on me. The story about Wyclef and Marc have been said in several interviews and I did source one part (the no gf/Lou rule). Even if you disagree with those edits why do you keep adding the unreferenced tag? All you do is say its a 'shame' and 'unencyclopediac' though you dont cite and you removed cited sources (and I mean REAL sources not just cheap gossip sites or something). --Thegingerone (talk) 21:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Edit War
I have no problem with changing 'Sarah' to 'Connor' but you remove valid cited info in the process. Either EDIT the damn thing or quit revering good edits. Your just being childish and name calling its getting old. --Thegingerone (talk) 12:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Typically I am on the fence in these disputes that are referred to a third party, but I find myself firmly entrenched in Fromgermany's camp. The recent edits make the article sound like a fan site. "A few weeks before her son was born" - is this relevant? Is the fact that we track her pregnancy through her career encyclopedic? I am unable to check my skepticism of the one reference to this entire paragraph; the link is either broke or you need to be a member, and the reference states "Sarah Connor chat history", which doesn't really give me a good verifiability feeling. Bottom line - article needs massive evisceration of fancruft material. Tanthalas39 (talk) 04:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the third party. The reason I feel (and maybe its just me) that the prhase 'a few weeks before her son was born' is 'encyclopediac' because that life issue prevented her from promoting in America; thus why she wasnt major here or did not make a real attempt here (as a primarily Germany releasing artist). If that still isnt a good enough reason by third party eyes then it can go; but thats why it is there. --Thegingerone (talk) 06:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Third opinion
Hey. I saw this page listed on WP:3O, so here's my take. I'm actually okay with Fromgermany's edits on the page. Adding interjections like "Again with little notice" are unencyclopedic and skew this page towards being WP:FANCRUFT. Furthermore, I think the Personal life section needs some heavy trimming. There's a great deal of unsourced statements, such as "Terenzi refused to end the relationship and once Connor was pregnant rumors had it that Pearlman gave the ultimatum: replace Marc or end the band" and "X-Cell wanted to use it as a publicty(sic) stunt, though Connor met Marc Terenzi shortly after and the relationship ended." This page should not list every single relationship she's had; rather, it can be trimmed down to say "In the past, Connor has dated x, y, z." Something like that. I just tagged this page as needing better references, and for a change in tone. Until these issues are resolved, do not remove those tags. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 14:54, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Issues
There are a few issues with this article's tone. The constant references to her states of pregnancy in relation to work aren't encyclopedic, and are unreferenced. Is she the only person who ever worked while she was pregnant or after giving birth? This is irrelevant. I'd also like to see confirmation that the release of recordings is under her control, since the article makes it sound as if she dictates to the recording company when this will occur. There are two full sections discussing the recording releases and facts surrounding those that are completely unreferenced. None of the material related to her husband's band issues or the mention of rumors with no citations is appropriate. The tags that were added to this article are appropriate and need to be addressed, not simply removed. It reads in parts like a fanzine. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm fair enough. I'll have to clean it up when I get a moment. The hardest part is MOST of her sources in German; a German speaker is needed here. --Thegingerone (talk) 08:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)