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[edit] Monkey-baiting

You might want to participate in these additional votes:

Cordially SirIsaacBrock 01:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiki Carter article

Am working on your suggestions to tighten up and better reference the notability issues you brought up on the Kiki Carter page. Do you have a moment to look at this and see if this is a better presentation. Thank you for you help and useful suggestions.Eaglefeather11 19:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


  • Comment Really like what you did on this article. Looks much improved with the table of contents and the sections. I had gotten a comment early on about lack of references so maybe I went overboard linking them up. I'm really new to this and trying to find my way through the maze of help files. It took me awhile to find how to do multiple links to one article. Step by step, I guess. Do you think I should upload relevant photos that are in the public domain? Eaglefeather11 19:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Thank you for your feedback. The sources list was made first (the article came from these sources) and then when the footnotes were added they culled from some of these same sources. Maybe I could delete the duplicates and rename the Sources section "additional sources" since they were used in the creation of the article. I will see what I can do. 209.81.121.200 00:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] why do we need pg= & text= on afd2

Hi Sanbeg, that was quite some time ago, so I forgot about it. Well, we leave it in now mainly due to legacy concerns: we have some old bots and scripts that still use "pg=" and "text=", so simply replacing them with a numbered argument wouldn't work. I'd figure on using an OR statement so that numbered arguments will work along with the "pg=" and "text=". I didn't modify it back then because I wasn't an admin, but then simply forgot about it (and didn't see any further discussion on it). Thanks for asking about this, since I'd forgotten it. I'll probably play around with the templates in my sandbox to see if it works. Thanks, Deathphoenix ʕ 00:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to your question, I resumed my seven month old work and made this change, which does what it needs to do as mentioned above. Thanks! --Deathphoenix ʕ 00:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, my code hack doesn't work because it leaves residual code behind (take a look at the first section here). I'm going to self-revert my edits because I don't know enough about Wikicode to do this. --Deathphoenix ʕ 03:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Sanbeg, thanks for giving this a shot. Just using the PAGENAME environment variable doesn't work because some articles get nominated more than once, and we need a different page for each subsequent nomination. --Deathphoenix ʕ 13:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem. I guess the one thing to make my modifications work is to find a way to suppress the "pg" and "text" text to prevent them from showing up if I make a normal numbered parameter call. I'm sure the <noinclude> would make a play, but I'm not enough of a Wikicode Monkey to be able to solve this one. --Deathphoenix ʕ 14:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your sandbox deletion

Hi, I deleted your sandbox with an auto-deletion script because you had a proposed deletion tag on it. Are you sure you want it deleted? If not, I can restore it, but will have to remove the tag.--Kungfu Adam (talk) 21:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Restored, and I have placed it in nowiki tags. Cheers!--Kungfu Adam (talk) 22:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 14 Year Old Girls

I have added info to the article that help establishes notability, and I was hoping you may re-visit the AfD. Please respond at the AfD rather than this talk page, since I am leaving this message for several editors. Thank you! PT (s-s-s-s) 18:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Labeled Section Transclusion (Wikisource)

Hi!

I began looking at your proposed solution to the labeled section transclusion problem, and replied to you at the discussion page at Wikisource. It looks promising, but I confess that I don't fully understand how it works. Would it be possible for you to write up (perhaps at the talk page there) a step-by-step explanation? Thanks, Dovi 08:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prod

I came across a number of articles you took to afd for deletion while doing new pages patrol and I was wondering if you were familiar with the Proposed deletion process. Basically, you add {{subst:prod|reason for deletion}} to articles the deletion of which is not controversial, such as blatant advertizing, etc. Thereafter, if the prod template remains in the article for five days it is deleted without any debate. Anyone can remove the template for any reason. If that is done, you can take the article to the far more resource intensive afd process.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] enhancement for poem/nowiki

Hi, and sorry for not replying before. I don't know enough about inner workings of MediaWiki to tell if the patch works correctly. I think that it would be the best if you would open up a bug report on Bugzilla with the patch and let Brion handle it. Poem isn't in the list of extension, but you can submit it as a general MediaWiki bug. Nikola 06:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Nice, though you might add Brion as a co-author as well. He did all the adjusting of the extension to MediaWiki that was needed. Nikola

[edit] 6 mile run

It shows up in Google Maps under the name of "Six Mile Run State Park" click the link I added to the Google map. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 22:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


Check it out, let me know what you think. I fixed the coordinates. I still had it on the porevious search which was the princeton cemetery.

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany

I am really running behind in my correspondence lately, and my apologies for taking so long to contact you. Thank you for having added your name to the project. Right now we are working on tagging all of our articles, and considering which articles we think are of the greatest importance to the project. Although I have worked with a variety of projects before, this is the first project I have ever created, and I hope that you can forgive me for my failures to date. Please feel free to make any comments on any of the proposals on the project pages, positive or negative, and thank you very much for having joined. If you have any specific questions or comments, please also feel free to contact me at my own user page. Thanks again for joining, and I hope we can help you with your own contributions to wikipedia.  :) Badbilltucker 23:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to WikiProject Germany

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[edit] Germany tagging

Could you use {{WikiProject Germany|class=|importance=}} instead of just {{WikiProject Germany}} when tagging, so it is easier for others to assess the articles? Many of them are probably already quality-assessed by the Military history people, in which case you could just use their quality assessment. Thank you for tagging, and happy editing! Kusma (討論) 17:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

A bot is a great idea. Most sub-, subsub-, subsusbsub- etc. categories of Category:Germany should also be eventually tagged (not all though, as our categories are not arranged in a treee structure). Kusma (討論) 17:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Historical Eastern Germany

Perhaps you'd be interested in this:Talk:Historical_Eastern_Germany#Requested_move. -- Hrödberäht (gespräch) 05:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] May 2007 edition of the WikiProject Germany newsletter

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[edit] System messages translation

Hi. If I give you a list of System messages that need translation, would you change them?

I got this list http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesIs.php?view=co and could use it to build a complete Icelandic System messages. What do you think? --Steinninn 07:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Humm... it seams that this liste http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?view=co is much more complete. The first list I sent you only has the messages already translated. --Steinninn 07:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

You mean to take the text and put it somewhere els for them to copy past? I don't think I have access to change the svn page. You know what would be the best thing to do is to take the version from is: and make that the default, it's already has almost everything translated and standardized. If that's not possible that I can probably put up a ftp page with all the english messages from SVN translated. --Steinninn 04:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please explain more fully

Could you explain more fully this rewording? You aren't challenging that Dilawar was beaten to death by American GIs, are you?

Dr. Elizabeth Rouse, the military pathologist who performed the autopsy recorded the cause of death as homicide. She wrote that the only other corpse she had seen with legs as badly damaged as Dilawar's had been run over by a bus. Geo Swan 06:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] One of your extensions

Good afternoon! I was looking at one of your old extensions to MediaWiki, Assert Edit, and wanted to get it enabled on this project. I talked to a few people on IRC and they mentioned that it would have to be moved into the SVN repository and cleaned up - I wonder if you could spare a few minutes to do that? (I'm also looking at the code and I see a few other things it would be nice to add, like the ability to check more than one assertion, but that would be easy enough to do once it's online) Could you please move it over to SVN? Thanks, --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 18:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Tim asked me to confirm that it's ready for use - would you agree with that?
Also, I have a patch allowing users to use AND or OR (not both, because that's ugly and not needed) and adding a notexists assertion for use with things like &assert=botANDnotexists for page creation bots - if you have a moment, could you have a look at that as well? (Or should I just pop it on bugzilla after the extension is live?) --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs(st47) 15:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ryobi logo.gif

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[edit] Footnote solution

Hi Steve,

I'm really looking forward to your extension of the &ltref&gt tag! I'm sure that you're busy and I don't mean to pressure you, but I'm wondering whether you know roughly how long it will be before your work goes live, i.e., before other editors can start using the <note> tag? I'd like to be able to give my humanities friends a rough idea so that they can plan their editing accordingly. I don't know everything that's involved in getting an extension accepted here at EN:WP, but I hope that it won't take long. Thanks again for solving that problem! :) Willow (talk) 13:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

For your fine efforts
For your fine efforts
As one of the aforementioned humanities nerds friends, I'd like to thank you for pioneering this solution. Have a cookie. (I expect you've enabled them.) Will it support lettered notes (which Awadewit had advocated)? Cheers. – Scartol • Tok 15:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm glad to see that it's useful here. It would be nice to support those as well, when I can find time to work on them. -Steve Sanbeg (talk) 19:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] notes and refs

Hi. I've just spotted your "group=note" changes to refs to allow one to create a set of footnotes for comments rather than references. However, there doesn't seem to be a way of adding an inline citation to one's footnotes. For example:

...and this was an amazing property.<ref name=FredFirst group=note>Fred was the first person to discover this property.<ref name=Fred2008>Fred (2008) An amazing new property. Amazing books. London.</ref></ref>

to produce:

...and this was an amazing property.[note 1]
Notes
1. ^ Fred was the first person to discover this property.[1]
References
1. ^ Fred (2008) An amazing new property. Amazing books. London.

Hope I've explained this. You'd need to be able to nest one <ref> within another, for a different group. Colin°Talk 19:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there has been a fair amount of talk in various places about additional features to add; hopefully I'll find time to work on some of that. Ideally, I'd like to have a note tag that's the same as the ref tag, but uses letters instead of numbers. It may help to nest them, if two different tags are used, although for some reason even nesting <ref> and {{#tag:ref}} doesn't work. -Steve Sanbeg (talk) 21:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alphabetical, automatically incremented footnotes

Hi Steve,

I'm sorry to bother you, but we really need that refinement of your footnotes solution we spoke of — you know, the one that produces automatically incremented, alphabetical footnotes? Surprisingly, it's not my humanities friends I'm pleading for, but myself. I rather impetuously committed myself (in every sense ;) to saving action potential from being delisted as a Featured Article, and the person who decides whether articles become/stay Featured, SandyGeorgia, seems to be insisting that the footnotes be alphabetical (see discussion here). I know you're busy, but it would mean a lot to me if you could fix that this week. Maybe it's as simple as using a < ol type=a> in the analog of the footnote_references_prefix string and maybe defining a new backlinks label string? Alternatively, we could ask that my admittedly kludgy solution be adopted temporarily until you get yours fixed up? Whatever you think is best, but let's please decide quickly, Willow (talk) 10:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I have been thinking about that, although I've been fairly busy off-wiki, so haven't looked at the code too much lately. Originally, I was thinking to internally add some prefix to each group to specify the numbering, but I think I've come up with a better idea; to do a bit of refactoring to that we have two instances of the Footnote class, one for each tag/numbering scheme. Hopefully, that could make things work without complicating the structure any more. BTW, if you do want to try sharing your changes, it would be best to try changing the latest SVN version, then producing a unified diff-Steve Sanbeg (talk) 19:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Poem Extension

I have gotten no help over on meta with some trouble I'm having with the Poem extension, as installed on my own personal wiki. User:Nikola Smolenski recommended I ask you. On the talk pages of other namespaces, Poem makes an error - UNIQ583c33685170dbcd-poem-00000000-QINU - (example). It is also fairly incompatible with the Semantic Mediawiki extension, since it makes the fact box right after the closing of the Poem (example). I don't know the mediawiki framework well enough to know why either of these might be. Do you have any ideas? --Aquatiki (talk) 07:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The UNIQ.. problem seems to be unrelated to the poem extension. Basically, the preprocessor hides XML-style tags with strings like that to prevent them from being treated as wikitext, then unhides them later on; something in the state of your parser must be getting messed up. I looked at your wiki, and I get the same result with poem, cite and nowiki. It's probably best to try disabling some extensions to see which one is causing that. I'm not sure about semantic mediawiki; I'd guess that it's using the wrong hook to detect when the page is ends, so the recursive parse triggers the fact box. That sounds like a bug in semantic mediawiki. -Steve Sanbeg (talk) 15:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)