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I was trying to make a side bar for this page. It didn't work out well.

Thanks for trying! -Willmcw 23:09, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

Note: The sidebar is up, but still has problems.

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[edit] Alien Sighting

I heard that there was a alien sighting on 5-8-05. Is that true?

Unlikely, but anything is possible. Find a respectable source for it and we can add it. Cheers, -Willmcw 23:09, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Thanks for adding the infobox! I was just going to suggest that this article needed an infobox here, glad it's gotten added. I wanted to open up a discussion about it now:

1) Is the bottom of the seal cut off for anyone else?

2) I have different figures for the square miles. The official census website says 19 land square miles: [1] (this also has the population density which is currently missing in the infobox)

This seems to have more specific land and water square mile figures (they're different from the current values in the infobox as well) [2] The land area roughly agrees with the official census info, so this probably the right figure, I think.

3) This claims to have the city flag of Santa Barbara: [3]

4) Antandrus -> "The American Riviera" "Santa Barbara" get about 6400+ hits on Google, so it seems well enough known. I'm not a local so I don't know if the name is commonly used around there, but some of my tourist books do say "American Riviera".

5) Does anyone have any good metro estimates? It seems that the whole Santa Barbara County is used for the Census designation of the Santa Barbara "metropolitan area", but that seems a little inaccurate to me.

Let me know what you guys think. --Rc251 10:42, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Regarding "American Riviera"--it's fine with me to leave it in, especially since it appears to be Google-notable. Very possibly it's one of those designations used more often by non-locals and visitors than by locals; I've lived here for most of my life, and just don't hear people use it.
Locals and local publications use the term.--Rockero 17:52, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the metro estimate: the entire area in SB County south of the Santa Ynez Mountain crest and east of Highway 101 where it turns north at Gaviota has a 2000 population of 201,058 (I'm using the officially released TIGER census files of census blocks, linked to the tables, and querying in ESRI ArcView; I do GIS for a living). I don't know where to get a 2005 estimate for the metro area: the county might have one, but most of our articles use the 2000 census data for population since it is the most recent actual "official" count.
Thanks! Antandrus (talk) 15:15, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Article

I'm setting the goal of featured article for this article. Please join me in reaching that goal!--hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 05:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)


[edit] EDITING QUESTION

10/24/6 - I fixed the sq mile numbers in the info box to match the number of the SB City website.

You added a couple of more decimal points, but that wasn't really a correction. You also changed several statistics that weren't on the city webpage. Can you give us your source for those? I've reverted the changes until we're sure. -Will Beback 05:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


... I made a major correction.

Here is the ref http://www.santabarbaraca.gov/NR/rdonlyres/67F9B44E-BC1E-4101-B1AA-AFDD796DAF04/0/FactSheet2005.pdf

Land is 21 sq mi and water is 23 sq mi because of the water connecting the city to the airport.

ALSO .. note that the area text is wrong too. In fact, the text box looks like it has the metric units from the text box used as sq miles instead.

Also, you removed my editing of the media section. Jeramy Gordon is a new comer to town who has junky daily (M-F) paper. "The city's free daily" makes it seem more important as does mentioning his name at all. Wendy McCaw is national news.

And, you removed my addition of Edhat as a hyperlocal. Edhat is an important source of news now that people have unsubscribed from the News-Press.

I feel strongly that all these edits should stay!

You are correct about the area, my mistake. What is this about the News-Press and the Edhat? Also, please don't add commercial links. -Will Beback 05:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

.. I didn't add any commerical links. Those were added by someone else. I added Edhat as a media source, and our newest resident Ellen as a local celeb.

[edit] Images

Really repetitive with the images, eh? Rmpfu89 20:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


Just a pathetically small issue, but on the second to last picture: The caption below the picture says it is looking "Northeast", and it would be true if Santa Barbara was located on the East Coast. Shouldn't it either say "looking from the Northeast" or looking "South" or "Southwest"?

No, the caption is correct. Here [4] is the approximate location of the airplane: the view is to the northeast, and it is actually towards the wharf, which is 1) at the center of the picture, and 2) near the big "S" in Santa Barbara on the TopoZone map. Remember that Santa Barbara is on a portion of the California coast that faces south--there are only a few spots on the West Coast where this is true (Santa Cruz and Long Beach are others) Antandrus (talk) 05:58, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Somebody should fix the infobox. There has been little progress on it since I put it up. Admittedly i'm not very good with infoboxes, but it is indeed important. --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 01:00, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Organizational Structure

Some friends and I discussed how a comprehensive article on SB would be structured given its history and tourism emphases. Here is what we came up with. Please consider and revise, and maybe we can move this up to pending tasks and include the detailed history. Americanwalrus 11:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Other than a small change, it looks good to me. Will Beback 19:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[changes have now been integrated into to do list above) Americanwalrus 07:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps we should put footnotes. --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 02:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sat photo

"the far right" "the extreme right" How about someone just crops the damn photo so that SB is the only major city visible in it? These directions are a bit silly.

SB takes more space on a map than it otherwise might due to its borders including the airport. However, more fundamentally, I'm not sure that the satellite phot adds much. Nowadays they're easily obtainable, at least three geo links have them. Perhaps a more typical view would be better? -Will Beback 08:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd be happy to snap one from one of the adjacent hills as a replacement for this, given a sunny day and a few minutes; I agree the current photo doesn't add much. Alternatively, if people like the satellite photo, I know some public domain high-res photos from 2005 from which I could make a city-only view. Antandrus (talk) 15:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I have a couple nice photos I could add that do SB justice, if you'd like. I don't know how to add photos, but everything seems preety intuitive at Wikipedia. Travel4Fun 16:33, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Travel4Fun

[edit] tourism and museums

I see a link to info re: The maritime Museum is up. From what I've seen, tourists love some other museums in SB, when they know about them and can peel themselves away from State Street and the ocean. Can I add a link to info re: a few excellent museums in SB? Travel4Fun 16:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Travel4Fun

It'd be better if you added the information to the article. -Will Beback 20:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Will. Instead of just putting a link, can you add something about the museums themselves? (Oh, and please check our policy on external links). Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 21:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of people moved

I am going to create a new page for the list of people from Santa Barbara and move all the names there: List of people from Santa Barbara. Having this very long list on the main page for the city is awkward. If anyone has a problem with this, please let me know.Njerseyguy 19:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and I linked to the page through a new "See also" section.Njerseyguy 19:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks--it was starting to bug me too. (This page could use a little cleanup/formatting/rewrite.) Antandrus (talk) 20:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

Needs history--when was the city founded? When was its bicentennial? Badagnani 09:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits by 75.15.157.152

The following has been reverted several times by different users:

Santa Barbara is a crazy liberal town. please don't re-edit this. The rich people are white liberals, they are "hipocritas" they love their wine and their organic food (crazy i'm telling you).

It is being placed here and on the users talk page in hopes that he will understand why such comments are not acceptable in Wikipedia articles. Before spending time in discussion, will wait to see if the OP is interested in discussing the subject. Dbiel (Talk) 07:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I've temporarily semi-protected the page. ·:·Will Beback ·:· 08:04, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
While it's a little early in the morning for wine, I am enjoying organically grown strawberries for breakfast, and yes, that's a completely inappropriate edit. Thanks for the sprotect. :) Antandrus (talk) 14:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

This article is a mess, and somewhat hard to read. Someone should try and compact the article a little more. --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 22:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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