Talk:Sanford Brown

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This article was nominated for deletion on September 11, 2007. The result of the discussion was No Consensus.

Sanford Brown is one of the most prominent members of the clergy in Seattle, Washington. As executive director of the Church Council of Greater Seattle he is a frequent contributor to public debate about religion, social justice, and medical ethics. The Church Council of Greater Seattle is one of the oldest and largest regional ecumenical bodies in the US. Since becoming director of the Council, over 150 articles in Seattle media have featured the work of his organization. The Church Council receives over 990,000 hits when Googled. "Sandy Brown Seattle" receives over 1,060,000 results.

Brown is one of the few Washington citizens successfully to contest an election. In 2000, the election of City of Wenatchee mayor Gary Schoessler was successfully contested by Brown and his associate, Rev. Kel Groseclose. He was elected to the Lake Washington School board. The district is fifth largest in Washington State.

In 2005 Brown received the Distinguished Alumnus Award from his alma mater, Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary. The honor is given to a maximum of two G-ETS graduates each year from among the school's 3500 graduates.

I concur, why was this speedy deletion requested, this guy seems notable - New pages lurker 86.145.34.175 06:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

The article has been greatly expanded since I first applied the speedy-delete tag. I think notability is asserted here at least on a local level, if for nothing else but the contested election. One major issue, though: The name of the article does not conform to WP naming conventions. Therefore, I am moving it to "Sanford Brown" instead. This process will leave a redirect from the original title, though.

By the way, everyone, make sure you sign all your messages with four tildes at the end, like this: ~~~~. Thanks! Realkyhick 08:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

This is a classic example of a person who is a legend in their own mind. The comment about how many hits google returns when you enter Sandy Brown Seattle is an attempt to mislead. That type of search returns every page that has those three words on it not every page that has to do with the subject of the article. There is a notable Sandi Brown that most of those hits point to as well as others including a Technical college that shares his name. The Church Council clearly should have have an article about their work, but there isn't one. Instead this employee of the political action group posted his own bio as self promotion. He violated Wikipedia rules by removing the speedy deletion tag (even after being told not to), and has contributed to no other articles as a user. This user should create a Myspace page for his self promotion. There is no doubt that this page should be deleted. --67.160.121.23 16:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand . . . . a quick check of his organization's website shows over 125 newspaper articles in the last two years about either his work or the work of his org. Here's [the link]. I'd think that argues for prominence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.97.40.189 (talk) 18:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

You are correct that the Church Council has prominence and there should very much be an article on it. If this user, who is the Executive Director, wanted to create one about that political action committee and their activities then great. But when you read in depth the Wiki standards a groups notability does not transfer to its employees and in this case the one issuing the press releases is going to change soon so an article about him is nothing but self promotion. Reading many of those articles it is clear this user is trying to use that groups name to give him notability. --67.160.121.23 18:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

After so much review on AfD and a warning about potential POV problems, no errors have been found in this article. Seems only fair to remove the POV warning. Answerman98112 05:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)