Talk:San Francisco Pride

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Contents 1 Accuracy 2 Convert Footnotes3 to Footnotes 3 Economic benefits 4 A bit of history on the name of the Parade and celebration

[edit] Accuracy

Trains run every 60 to 90 seconds from 10PM-3AM, with lesser frequencies of approx. every 3 minutes from 3AM to 7AM.

Those frequencies seem very high...where are these numbers from?

BART operates longer trains (ten to twelve car trains) during Gay Pride Weekend, but maintains regular weekend service of trains every 15 to 20 minutes.

I don't think BART can physically fit twelve-car trains in the stations! -- Beland 03:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, I removed a lot of the dubious detail about MUNI service, and added a citation. Someone else already removed the claim of 12-car BART trains. Accordingly, I removed the "acccuracy" tag from this section. --Jdlh | Talk 05:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Ummm, who cares? Public transit to the festival section seems completely unhelpful to understanding the subject of this article. Huge events are held worldwide and avoid including mass transit plans, extra electricity needed and various misc. information in those articles. I think the whole section should be removed unless it's somehow incredibly newsworthy. Which it doesn't seem to be. Benjiboi 00:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I think the entire section "Public transit to the festival" is not helpful in making Wikipedia a better encyclopedia. It does help make it a better travel guide, but that's Wikitravel's job, not Wikipedia's. The transit section was added on May 14, 2006. I didn't care enough to delete it, but I don't support it. --Jdlh | Talk 19:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Let's leave for a week or so and see if any editors disagree, and why, maybe we're missing something. Benjiboi 19:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Hearing no disagreement, I deleted the entire "Public transit to the festival" section. --Jdlh | Talk 18:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Convert Footnotes3 to Footnotes

Most of the footnotes in this article use the Footnote3 mechanism, but one uses the newer Footnotes mechanism. The article should be consistent. Since Footnotes is the current style and Footnotes3 is marked obsolete, I propose to change the old reference style to the new when I get a moment. Wikipedia policy calls for getting a consensus first before making such a change, so I'm calling for comments now. I'll leave discussion open for a week; sometime after July 4, 2006, if we have a consensus, I'll make the change. --Jdlh | Talk 21:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, there wasn't much discussion of that, was there? I just changed every Footnote3 (ref template) in the article to use the Footnotes (ref tag) mechanism. This left the Footnotes section obsolete, so I deleted it. --Jdlh | Talk 04:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Economic benefits

Does anyone know any rough figures on how much extra money is brought into the city durring the event? From increased tourism, sales tax from local shops, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.7.232.139 (talk • contribs)

The SF Pride Celebration brings in an estimated $8 million dollars in sales tax revenue alone, not to speak of the sales and such going to local business. -brendan 66.121.135.141 01:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

There wasn't an economic impact study done until Teddy Witherington became Pride president, I think 1998.

1997 "Oakley-Melvin 9former pride president) says the committee plans to draft an economic impact statement, which it can then use to justify asking for more city money. And the committee is asking the city for money to draft the statement."[1]

Economic Impact "Even so, this is a conservative estimate based upon direct spending only. The real impact is probably nearer to $150m. Pride President, Cecilia Chung, said"

• 2001 - $113,701,825
• 2000 - $148,567,530
• 1999 - $103,003,800
• 1998 - $ 78,500,000

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2002/2003 "The event generates approximately $100m economic impact for the City & County of San Francisco."[3]

Benjiboi 20:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A bit of history on the name of the Parade and celebration

As a gay man who attended the Parade in 1980, 1981 and 1982, I want to point out that the Parade in those years was called the San Francisco International Gay Freedom Day Parade and Celebration. It also seems relevant to point out that during those years there was a special marching band (the Gay Freedom Day Marching Band) that performed for the parade, as well as at other events in San Francisco, including the Chinese New Year parade.67.10.184.233 12:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)