Talk:San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge /Archive 1

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On February 20, 1931, after a great deal of lobbying, California received the go-ahead by the United States Congress to build the Bay Bridge.

Could this be clarified? What role did Congress play, exactly? Was it federally funded and the "go-ahead" was an approval to spend money? From what I can tell on the net, it looks like the design and planning was all commissioned by the state.

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Eastern span replacement

Concrete and steel prices

Removed (24.251.181.145): "The 9/11 attacks and the subsequent downward turn of the economy caused the cost of building supplies like concrete and steel to skyrocket."

The above simply does not follow from the laws of economics.

Replacement (Leonard G.): "As both concrete and structural steel are now commodities within a world wide market the prices were much higher than expected due to the current building boom throughout China" -- Leonard G. 16:06, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Too many passive statements

A large part of this section should be researched a bit further and reworded. In particular, these statements should be rewritten in a more active tone: "It was clear that the eastern span must be made earthquake resistant. It had been known ..." To whom were these details clear? Passive statements espousing opinions are hard to corroborate, and they dilute the perceived quality of the article.

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Emperor Norton I

The article on Emperor Norton I says that a span of this bridge was named after him, because he was an early advocate of it. Does anyone know anything about this? DuctapeDaredevil

It should say that there was a proposal before the SF Board of Supervisors to name it thusly; I think we have that described right here in this article.
Atlant 17:28, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I added the info from the Norton article to this one and rearranged things a bit. -- Samuel Wantman 00:03, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Graduate (the movie) SFOBB scene

Re: The Graduate (movie). When I saw this on its first theatrical release, it was my distinct impression that Benjamin was driving toward San Francisco (the correct direction for traffic on the upper deck, but not the way to go to Berkeley). If the flow had been reversed I'm sure I would have identified the "wrong" upper deck direction on at least on of several subsequent TV viewings. Even if we allow this, the concept of driving from Los Angeles via Highway 101 up the peninsula is also rather a stretch - the character was in a rush to get to his girlfriend and if coming up 101 (not the best choice compared to Interstate 5) would have switched to 17 North (now interstate 880) at San Jose as the most direct route. By the way, the "Ludwigs Fountain" UCB scene was actually filmed in SoCal (UCLA?), so the SF Bay Bridge clip is just a bit of scene setting. By the way, this area is my lifelong home. Leonard G. 8 July 2005 02:04 (UTC)

Image not appearing

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This hasn't appeared in my browser for months. The box with the caption appears, but not the image. Anyone have any idea why? -- Samuel Wantman 20:46, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Try clearing your browser cach. Leonard G. 15:34, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I tried that, no change. It only seems to be a problem if the image is 250px. At 300 or 200 or 220 the image appears. Very strange. -- Samuel Wantman 06:06, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
New image arrangement - horizontal group, what browser and OS do you use?
No problem with the new arrangement, but the example on this page still a problem with 250 px. I use IE with XP media edition 2005. -- Samuel Wantman 21:34, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Map location

Shouldn't the map be one of the first things encountered? It could be clipped way down to a smaller size so that it would not be intrusive, yet still informative.

Map is now part of "bridge3" taxobox - see also Golden Gate Bridge Leonard G. 15:18, 28 August 2005 (UTC)