Talk:San Diego Trolley

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[edit] Content Update

I plan on making several revisions to the content of this page over the weekend. I will add more information, correct existing content, and flesh out the history. I am considering adding material related to fares and connecting services, as Wikipedia appears to do so in other metropolitan areas, but I am somewhat hesitant to clutter the page. (San Diego MTS is a mostly integrated system anyway.) I can prepare a network schematic in Illustrator/Photoshop at a later date if demand is strong. Suggestions welcome. -DavDaven 08:25, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Station History

I've updated existing page content and added a history component. Does anyone know when the San Diego Square station (C Street between 7th and 8th Avenues) closed? Also, can someone verify the Bayfront/E Street station opened in 1985, and not early 1986? -DavDaven 05:26, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Before the Euclid Line (Now Orange Line) Opened to Euclid, trains ran on the south track between San Diego Square and the original Sante Fe stop. I am 99% sure that San Diego Square closed the day that trains to Euclid started to run. --Jmohler1970 16:48, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First modern light rail in California?

First modern light rail in California? The Muni Metro article says it added a new light rail line, underneath Market Street, a year before the San Diego Trolley was inaugurated. -- Geo Swan 12:19, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Not exactly first modern light rail It is true to say that Muni Metro subway opened before the San Diego Trolley. N-Judah was the first line, but only about a third of it was (and is) underground. The rest of the line operated like a turn of the century streetcar line.

BART had already been operating under Market Street for about six years. The rest of N-Judah dates from 1928. So the "wow this is new" factor was largely not there. --Jmohler1970 16:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Monorails?

Why is that even brought up? Unless there is a real agency or company proposing it with real funding and real EIR, it should not be mentioned. The text with monorails should be removed.

--Jmohler1970 02:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] San Diego "Awesome Trolley?"

I highly doubt this is the official name, but with all things California, you just never know (Go UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs!). That's why I don't want to touch it myself, but just point it out. Looks like vandalism, but I have no proof. --24.3.109.73 18:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

The first sentence of this section does not seem appropriate. Instead of a criticism, it is a pre-emptive excuse in reply to criticism.

Also, I would like to add that the major thing I know people complain about the trolley (second to the argument that it "doesn't go anywhere I need to go") is that the train service is pretty infrequent. You can literally sit at a station for 10 or more minutes waiting for a train. The second one is that the trains are needlessly slow in areas where they do not cross streets. 71.83.114.58 00:49, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture Update

Anyone have thoughts on updating the pictures attached to this article? I observe that some look older and low quality. Perhaps they were taken with a cell phone camera or early vintage digital camera? One picture shows an older Siemens U2 train pulling into Old Town from Mission valley; however, I don't believe that equipment runs there any longer? Adddtionally, it may be interesting to see a picture with passengers waiting on a platform. --Track Legs (talk) 03:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Equipment

Additionally, the trolley uses three light-rail vehicle types. To me it seems useful to have a section devoted to those vehicles. Thoughts? Anyone have information on them? I could look myself, but it would take some research. --Track Legs (talk) 03:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Line Split

I agree. That's crossed my mind in the past, so this suggestion is an easy response for me. This response obviously pplies to the Orange and Green lines too. --68.107.68.111 (talk) 06:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Millbrooky, I obviously undid your edit of the discussion page. Maybe it was an accident? Discussing the proposed change has merit and should remain. --Track Legs (talk) 04:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I realized this evening that wiki pages have already been created for the Blue, Orange and Green lines. I decied to expand on those with text copied from this article. And I removed the 'split' suggestion b/c it was essentially completed.--Track Legs (talk) 04:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)