Talk:San Diego Sails

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 25 February 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

This page should not be merged with the page for the San Diego Conquistadors. Leave it alone.

Next time some nameless Wikipedian with little knowledge of the ABA wants to alter this article or the one about the Conquistadors, how about some discussion here?

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[edit] Merger of Sails and Conquistadors articles is a mistaken proposition

The Sails and the Conquistadors are not the same team. They had different owners. They had different players (a total of 3 of the Sails' 14 players played for the Conquistadors). They had a different team name, they had different colors, they had different uniforms . . . if the Sails and the Conquistadors are the same team, then so are the New York Jets and the New York Giants.

[edit] The Sails and the Conquistadors did not have the same players

Out of the 14 players on the Sails' beginning roster, only 3 had previously played for the Conquistadors.

Lee Davis, Caldwell Jones and Bo Lamar were the only players who played for both the Conquistadors and the Sails.

All of the other Sails were not Conquistadors players:

  • #35 Clint Chapman
  • #6 Tom Ingelsby
  • #2 Stew Johnson
  • #43 Kevin Joyce
  • #15 Pat McFarland
  • #53 Mark Olberding
  • #11 Roscoe Poindexter
  • #12 Dave Robisch
  • #9 Rick Schmidt
  • #21 Bobby Warren
  • #22 Joby Wright

[edit] The Sails and the Conquistadors did not have the same owners

Dr. Leonard Bloom owned the Conquistadors.

Frank Goldberg owned the Sails.

[edit] The Sails and the Conquistadors did not have the same coaches

Bill Musselman was the head coach of the Sails; he had not been a part of the Conquistadors franchise.

[edit] The Sails and the Conquistadors did not have the same people in management

Irv Kaze was General Manager of the Sails; he had never been involved with the Conquistadors.

Alex Groza was Director of Player Personnel for the Sails; he did not have this position with the Conquistadors. Stan Albeck was Director of Player Personnel for the Conquistadors.

[edit] The Sails and the Conquistadors had entirely different names, uniforms and color schemes

The Sails wore white, blue and green (officially Ocean Cap White, Royal Blue, and Kelly Green).

The Conquistadors wore yellow and red.

Take a look at the uniforms of the two teams. They are as different as the color schemes or the names. Same for the logos.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:NewSailsLogo.gif

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)