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[edit] Education Revamp

I think that in order to successfully change the Education list into prose as suggested, what might be more effective is to have it reflect the ordering of the New York City page, where an Education section lists an overview of the big schools and accomplishments, but it links to Main article: Education in New York City. On that page, all of the schools are broken out in detail. However, it also references the List of colleges and universities in New York City for those people that want to view it in list form. This is relevant for the San Antonio page because of the number of schools listed that have their own Wikipedia pages, and those connections should not be lost. Kat Malone (talk) 16:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I have added the Split Section tag to hopefully prompt some discussion around the above. Kat Malone (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed text

(** NOTE: There are sometimes fictitious references to a saint by the name of Valero; however, in the history of mankind, there was never any saint by the name of Valero. Further, the official archives document the 13 June 1691 naming of the place as San Antonio. )

I removed this following text from the "History" section because it seemed like vandalism, generally based on the wording and style, and also because the word "Valero" is only mentioned in this article one other time, and not about a saint. If this information is actually correct, reword it and put it back in the article. Jon Alten (talk) 05:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk about biking in Transportation section

I'm new at this and hesitate to remove someone else's writing, so I'm asking for comments before taking action here. The Transportation section includes a section on biking which seems not to fit under that heading, since it mostly refers to biking for sport rather than for transportation. Also, it makes opinion-based statements with no sourcing (like the comment that says that SA is not as bicycle friendly as some coastal cities); I don't disagree with the opinions but I didn't think this the appropriate place to state them. I may pull the paragraph and put it here so that someone else can put it where they think it belongs.BLT (talk) 03:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

It sounds like a rouge edit that someone made at some point. I agree that it shouldn't be in the Transportation section. There are many cities in the US where biking to work is common, but SA isn't one of them. --Brownings (talk) 03:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes - well, my husband bikes to work, but that's neither here nor there. :) I've pulled the paragraph, and will dump it here, with minor corrections, so that someone can put it back in a place where it fits better. Some parts of it could stay in the transportation section, like the parts about the bike lanes, but it's all so mixed in with opinion right now that I'm not going to do it at this moment. -BLT (talk) 03:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

"Transportation by bicycle is safe on some roads, not as safe on other roads. In general, San Antonio may not be as bicycle friendly as a form of transport as some coastal US cities. There are designated bicycle lanes on a percentage of the city roads such as historical districts, missions trails, university paths and surrounding areas. Many independent organized groups of people in or out of the city meet on set days to go on group bicycle rides together. Group rides vary dramatically in skill level, depending on the type of ride and the riders involved. Group rides can be very diverse, oriented to many unique groups and purposes ranging from touring, recreation, general transportation, socializing, family entertainment, or professional athletic training. Organized road or mountain bike rides meet up with one group or another almost every day. Popular mountain bike trail parks are McAllister Park, O.P. Schnabel Park, and Government Canyon State Natural Area."

[edit] South Texas?

I have been a Texan for 30 years, and in that time, I have never heard of San Antonio referred to as being in South Texas. It's in Central Texas. While it may be on the border, as is explained in the "Central Texas" page, I think it's inaccurate for the "Texas" and "San Antonio" pages to categorize it as South. It may be culturally closer to the South, but geographically, it's definitely, and inarguably central. I'm curious what San Antonio residents think.

Perhaps it's important to be more clear as to whether you are talking about geography or culture. (The article implied geography.) Take Houston--culturally Houstonians think of themselves as Gulf Coast Texans, despite the fact that we are geographically in the east. Culturally, these two regions are very, very different. Geographically, Houston is east and San Antonio is central; culturally, Houston is Gulf Coast and San Antonio is South. 72.20.141.164 (talk) 20:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)littlehunt—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.20.141.164 (talk) 20:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I have always thought of it as South Texas, Austin would be Central Texas. --Holderca1 talk 22:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I concur, I always recognized San Antonio as South Texas, and Austin as South and East of Center-- nevertheless Central. --DavidD4scnrt (talk) 04:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it is South-Central Texas because of being on the Border of both. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.127.20 (talk) 23:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More pictures of the river walk

The best part of San Antonio is the river walk. It would be nice to get more views, such as people eating on the river, night pictures with lighting, etc. etc.Rlbarton (talk) 20:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

There's a whole gallery of them already over at San Antonio River Walk. IMHO they much rather belong over there than in the main SA article. The Riverwalk is just one part of SA, and I don't think it works to have it have more pictures than the other parts of the city. - TexasAndroid (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Downtown Description

I question the first sentence under the Downtown heading: "Because of its status as a historic urban center, the architecture and layout of San Antonio are more traditionally urban than other cities in Texas, such as Dallas and Austin, which have developed in the last half century."

What is "traditionally urban"? That seems vague, as does the reference to downtown S.A. as a historic urban center. Does this refer to a listing in the national historic register? If so, Austin has three historic districts and a number of historic buildings. However, if that's what the reference means, it has cause and effect mixed up. Also, while there has been a lot of development in downtown Austin in the last half century, the layout hasn't changed since 1839. I won't speak for Dallas, since I haven't lived there. Unless someone has a clarification, I will just strike the entire sentence. Tfb787 (talk) 06:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC) tfb787

I'm not sure what it's talking about. What the heck is "traditionally urban" anyway? I live in downtown SA, so from what I've experienced "traditionally urban" would mean fewer people, less services, and a shortage of retail. --Brownings (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)