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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

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[edit] Your question

You could cite the link as follows: "Report on mustard gas experiments" (1943). British Homoeopathic Journal 33: 1-12. British Homoeopathic Society.  Addhoc (talk) 19:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, but Br Hom Soc is the Author, and journals don't normally need a publisher. How do I do that?Sam Weller (talk) 09:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

From Talk:Homeopathy:

I don't know how to reference this accessible online scan of the actual paper (+ commentary) as note 106, instead of a book.

http://www.jameslindlibrary.org/trial_records/20th_Century/1940s/brit_homeo_soc/brit_homeo_soc_kp.html

Help please.

I modified your additions. For citation ease, check out this useful site and Wikipedia:Footnotes. — Scientizzle 20:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for the links. Even more useful would be a built-in WP reference manager.Sam Weller (talk) 09:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moved from Talk:Health freedom movement

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[edit] The notability of Martin J Walker

A short biography of Martin J Walker was deleted from WP, mainly on grounds of non-notability, although with strong overtones of opposition to his opinions. The article is cached here:

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:d8-nrqPfFCQJ:www.whale.to/Martin_Walker.htm+Martin+J+Walker+wikipedia&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4

although the discussion seems to have further dematerialized. The article seems not to have helped his case, by categorizing him primarily as a graphic designer, rather than an investigative social affairs and medical journalist, and including the publisher only for his selfpublished books. Yet here he is again, cited as one of the "more notable" HFM individuals. Should his name be deleted from HFM to accord with the deletion of his biography? Or perhaps HFM should be deleted, to avoid further embarrassment? In fact, the following extract from http://martinjwalker.com/ about books prior to Dirty Medicine 1993 should make clear that he was extensively published by mainstream imprints, and that he cannot be regarded as nonnotable:

Poor man Beggar Man Thief: The story of New Horizon Youth Centre. Sidgwick & Jackson, London, 1972.

Following the occupation of Hornsey College of Art in 1968, I and five other students were expelled. For a while I had no idea of what I could do, I had wanted to paint since childhood. In the end, following the example of the ideas which precipitated the occupation - that art should be public and of value in society - I got a job starting, building and running a centre for heroin addicts in Soho, London. When I left the successful centre almost two years later, Sidgwick & Jackson offered me a book contract. In 1972, they published Poor Man beggar Man, Thief, undoubtedly the hardest book I have ever written.

State of Siege; Policing the Miners Strike. Canary Press, London. 1985.

During the time that I was involved in the Miner’s strike, working with Susan Miller and the late Jim Coulter, the three of us wrote three booklets which were meant to inform pickets of their rights and tell them of the strategies used by the police. The first two booklets were published by Yorkshire NUM and then when a third was added, they were all published as State of Siege by Canary Press, still during the strike.

A Turn of the Screw: The aftermath of the 1984-85 Miners’ Strike. Canary Press (1985)

At the end of the strike there were around 80 miners in prison for offences they were said to have committed during the strike. Given the political and criminal way in which the police behaved during the strike, I always thought that there was a good argument for the cases of all the miners in prison, to be reviewed. Many of the men were quite literally ‘political prisoners’ who had been attacked without reason by the police who saw any convictions as weakening the solidarity of the strikers and publicly disciplining other miners. I wrote a Turn of the Screw to put the case of the miners in prison and as a final articulation of how the police and the courts functioned during the strike. At the same time as writing the book, with a small group of miners I started the organisation called NOMPAS, a national organisation to support the miners in prisons.

Frightened for my Life; Deaths in British prisons. Geoff Coggan and Martin Walker. Fontana. (1982)

In the 1970s, Britain had the highest per capita number of prisoners of any European country and a disproportionate number of these prisoners died while incarcerated, either by their own hand or at the hands of the regime. In the late seventies, Geoff Coggan and I wrote Frightened for my Life an analysis of the ‘way of death’ in English prisons. The book sold over 7,000 copies in the first couple of years of its distribution until a screw wrote threatening a libel action against Fontana. Considering that the late and high earning Carter Ruck, had read the book for libel and put us through hour upon hour of discursive hell reflecting on the meaning of a full stop here, and a comma there, I was somewhat surprised when Fontana capitulated without even a decent exchange of letters. Thousands of copies of the book were pulped.

With Extreme Prejudice: Police Vigilantism in Manchester. Canary Press, London (1987)

The book of which I am most proud, written during this period is, With Extreme Prejudice. The book tells the story of a campaign of harassment against two University of Manchester students. It was written after a long investigation, carried out in part with David Pallister of the Guardian and the staff of the Manchester City Council Police Committee Unit, with the support of Manchester City Council. Although our investigation never found the officers who had threatened one of the students with rape and stubbed a cigarette out on the face of the other, we did prove a conspiracy, which in this day and age is quite something. When, a year after the case was closed, a lone teenage youth was charged with the burglary of the female students flat, we ran a defence that he had been used by the police to carry out the burglary and clean-up any evidence against the police. A jury found the young man not guilty and the police officers responsible were named in court.

In 1987, Jenny Turner wrote what at the time, and since has been one of the most complementary reviews specifically of With Extreme Prejudice and more generally of my work around this time. In The Edinburgh Review, she wrote:

Walker’s method in this book (and his other ones) is to combine field research with searching philosophical critique of the tools at his and our disposal. Unlike many writers of the ‘left’, though, his concern is with citizens as human beings, not ciphers, which means his work is not only easy and exciting to read but also full of sudden insights into the way the arm of the state actually thinks…. It would be nice to go on and on quoting extracts from the book. More practically, every reader of ER should buy a copy, read it, then pass it around as many others as possible. It is quite honestly the most coherent and programmatic analysis of what goes on in this country today, why and what to do about it, ever. It should explode the myth that state research is an esoteric discipline undertaken by weird ultra leftists, fit only to be scribbled then xeroxed on scraps of paper; it also explodes the myth that whatever sort of government we elect, it will make a precious bit of difference. The State is, literally, well sewn up.

Sam Weller (talk) 15:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I've moved your comment from Talk:Health freedom movement here, as it's not really appropriate to that talk page. If you wish to contest the deletion of an article, or propose recreating it, then please make a request at deletion review. This talk page isn't really the right venue. The more clearly you can make a case that this person fulfills the notability guidelines, the more likely you'll be successful. MastCell Talk 05:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Sam - in response to your question on my talk page, the deletion discussion for the Martin Walker article is here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Walker. Is that what you were looking for? MastCell Talk 18:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah, excuse me. The first deletion discussion, which I linked just above, was closed as "keep". There was also a second deletion discussion, archived here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Walker (2nd nomination), which was closed as "delete". It was this second discussion which resulted in the article's deletion. I hope that's helpful. MastCell Talk 18:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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The course of action I would take is deletion review and get feedback from others, just to be safe and not rash. Singularity 04:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

We wait until an uninvolved administrator determines consensus and closes the discussion. It should be closed in a couple of days. Singularity 17:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I have closed the DRV (Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_March_12#Martin_Walker_.28closed.29 as recreation allowed. Feel free to write a new version of the article based on reliable sources. If you would like the deleted version to use as a resource I can copy it to User:Sam Weller/Martin Walker if you like. Just let me know. Eluchil404 (talk) 03:56, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Content at User:Sam Weller/Martin Walker and User talk:Sam Weller/Martin Walker. Eluchil404 (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)