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[edit] Massu

Tx.--Epeefleche 06:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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They're the arms of the kingdom of Sicily. Michael Sanders 11:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Template:British Latinos

Hello SamEV, could you look at Template:British Latinos (Template talk:British Latinos) and see what you think about it...? Thanks! The Ogre (talk) 13:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello again! Could you please go back and comment on Template:British Latinos (Template talk:British Latinos)? Thank you again. The Ogre (talk) 13:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:British Latinos

Template:British Latinos has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — The Ogre (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] excuse me?

what was wrong with my edits? how are they making a point? Iamandrewrice (talk) 11:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

See Talk:Latino (demonym), where you'll see how that matter has been much discussed before. If you made an innocent mistake, I retract the comment. But you seem like an experienced editor. SamEV (talk) 11:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

hang on i'll have a look at the discussion... but i can add a reference, which was what i was just about to do before you changed it... and no i am not experienced at all haha! i only joined a week or two ago... and im still adopted. But thanks for the compliment anyway... lol Iamandrewrice (talk) 11:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I went by all the messages you have on your talk page. I didn't stop to look at the dates on them. SamEV (talk) 11:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah... i got pretty well known rather quickly haha... but yeah... anyway... ive edited what I think the page should be like... giving a reference on the discussion page... that way people can discuss it. Dont delete it yet... just see what people think. And what do you think? why did you delete it in the first place? i wasnt exactly sure on that even from reading the discussion page Iamandrewrice (talk) 12:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I had to remove it, per Wikipedia's rules. Let's discuss any changes on the article's talk page. Leave a message there if you want. SamEV (talk) 12:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

oh... well yeah i did leave a message on it ^^ Iamandrewrice (talk) 12:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I replied on the page. And i don't understand how you can say that there is a need in any way to block me. I have done nothing wrong... Iamandrewrice (talk) 12:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

No, as I said in my reply at Latino (demonym), you don't have to worry about that. I haven't even reported you b/c you're so new. SamEV (talk) 13:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IMF

http://imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2007/02/weodata/index.aspx ☆ CieloEstrellado 07:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Countries with Latin Populations

Hello SamEV! We seem to have yet another problem with a racialized "Latin" template, I'm speaking of Template:Countries with Latin Populations (Talk). I've tagged as OR - could you comment please? Thank you. The Ogre 13:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello again SamEv. You may want to gives your thoughts at Templates for deletion - Countries with Latin Populations. Thank you! The Ogre 22:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Poor Andrew. I hope he doesn't think we're all out to get him. I just wish he'd wait till he has a better understanding of all these issues and how Wikipedia works before making those edits. SamEV 22:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
You know... he is now permantely blocked, as well as all his sockpoppets... Such is life! The Ogre 14:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Ouch ... SamEV (talk) 23:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Franco-Prussian War

Thanks for adding the reference and fixing my mistake. I have been trying to improve it section by section, and am just now getting to the Hohenzollern business. I'm going to be adding a lot on the story behind the Ems Dispatch and improve the rest. Any additions would be greatly appreciated! BTW, if you could find any sources that say Vauban built the fortress at Luxembourg, message me with it. Thanks! Monsieurdl mon talk-mon contribs 03:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anglo–Spanish War (1585)

Hi Sam, I saw you showed some interest in my editing of Anglo–Spanish War (1585).

The most remarkable aspect of the Edict is that the protestants were granted any rights at all, but the country remained officially catholic; that is why Henry IV had to convert in the first place and why Spain could acquiesce in an end of the war it had intervened in for religious reasons. I rewrote the passage anyway. Regards, --BertSen (talk) 08:45, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Please work for Consensus

Even if you don't like something. [1] Work for a consensus or go for dispute resolution. UnclePaco (talk) 17:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you serious? You practically threatened an edit war and to undo the recent progress in that article. I strongly advice you to be more genuine in your comments next time you come to my talk page. SamEV (talk) 20:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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oh okay —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigGabriel555 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] No content in Category:People of former Portuguese colonies

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[edit] Category:People of former Portuguese colonies

Hi, Jerry. I created that category but replaced it with another. In such situations, when it's a self-created category, what's the best way for me to have them deleted? SamEV (talk) 00:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I deleted Category:People of former Portuguese colonies 3 hours ago; do you mean undeleted? Or do you meanCategory:People of the former Portuguese colonies? And if so, why do you want it deleted? JERRY talk contribs 00:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't check. Yes, I wanted it deleted, as I do others I created but which I then decided I had accidentally misnamed. Do I wait four days and nominate them for speedy deletion, or is there a different procedure you recommend? SamEV (talk) 00:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I would create the new category pages, depopulate the former categories while populating the new categories. Then once the former categories are empty, I would nominate them for speedy deletion under crtieria WP:CSD#C1. JERRY talk contribs 00:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. SamEV (talk) 00:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
P.S. No, I don't mean Category:People of the former Portuguese colonies. But I see that the others have either been deleted or tagged already. Thanks. SamEV (talk) 02:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Emperor's name

Hi,

In the past you made edits the name of the emperors of Japan. A discussion about this topic has just opened (once again!) You are free to express your opinion here. Thanks. Švitrigaila (talk) 16:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Geography of Dominican Republic

I do not know how to restore half of my edit on the Geography section. Before my edition, there were too many things wrong (it said, for example, 3 main mountain ranges and really they are 4 main ranges, not including the Cordillera Oriental, a minor one) and repeated (the islands Beata and Saona and Lake Enriquillo are repeated); and is a "poetic" language, not the proper language in a geographic section. And I saw in the article of other countries that the section Geography is not subdivided, which I think is right for an introductory article; it should be subdivided in the Geography of the Dominican Republic article. And that kid (?) BigGabriel555 wrote me (without signing) that he was going to revert my edition because there were not cites (and he never includes a cite); I can put the cites, if needed. Before I said that I was not going to write in that article but the problem is that it is the first article on the Dominican Republic and it has a lot of problems. But it seems that I will keep working on other articles that are empty or just stubs. Thanks for your support. --Pepemar2 (talk) 22:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I will do as you say, changing just a few sentences, even if I do not see the point of it if a whole section is right. But I will try; it will take me time to work in other articles; and I work in Spanish Wikipedia and other Wikipedias, too, and I doesn't want to spend my time arguing. --Pepemar2 (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BigGabriel555

I'm having trouble assuming good faith with this one after all his recent tendentious editing and abuse of socks. What do you think?--RosicrucianTalk 02:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

...and with reverts like these, I really don't know what kind of point he's trying to make.--RosicrucianTalk 03:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I see that you are discussing this problem. Maybe he is working with good faith but I think that he has a bipolar personality; when he is "maniac", he is extremely active without taking in account any consequence. If he is bipolar, the euphoria could disappear for some days and then return (of course, it is not the case if he is under medication). But it is a big problem. --Pepemar2 (talk) 19:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I have started a RfC about this, and would appreciate you weighing in as you're part of the dispute.--RosicrucianTalk 22:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've just added my name. The madness has to end some day (soon, I hope). SamEV (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for trying to keep my changes in the Geographic section; it is madness. I have not changed many things in other sections because most of them are out of my field of knowledge. But geography I know a lot; I have travelled all over my country since I was a kid (I am very old now). Even if I do not agree with the figure from BigGrabriel555 (see my comments on the Discussion page), I will not change it to see if we could get some peace. --Pepemar2 (talk) 22:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, you should change it. Because then if he changes it back he'll finally get blocked, as it's mandatory. Así que por favor, reviértalo. Nos estaría haciendo un favor a todos, y a Wikipedia. (De veras). SamEV (talk) 22:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
You know what, don't. He already reverted four times. He can be reported already. SamEV (talk) 22:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CC'ed from my talkpage

Rosicrucian, do you think we should report him? SamEV (talk) 02:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we can. He's reverted after being warned by an admin. I've already added the latest incident to the RfC.--RosicrucianTalk 02:10, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok. I had the report ready. But I decided to wait (while I had dinner) to see if Caribbean H.Q. would notice Gabriel's last revert. I even left him a message. I came back about the same time you restored the article. Gabriel's last edit seemed to have some vandalism thrown in for good measure, btw. SamEV (talk) 02:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
...and he's still reverting. I've added the latest revert to the 3RR report.--RosicrucianTalk 04:56, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Dominican Republic

Not a problem. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR noticeboard

The report against you on the 3RR noticeboard has been closed. You clearly made four reverts on the page, this one having a clearly inappropriate edit summary, but I have concluded that the report was frivolous or vexatious and since the page is semi-protected the IP won't be making further edits. Please be careful not to violate 3RR in the future and remember that reverts of vandalism are only exempt in the case of simple vandalism, which is something that anyone who has never seen the page before would identify as vandalism (i.e. blanking sections, adding cuss words, etc.) If consensus is definitely against an editor, then let other editors make the reverts instead. Stifle (talk) 09:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

PS if you think that an IP is a banned user, list on WP:RFCU. Stifle (talk) 09:41, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] UnclePaco

I didn't know "!@#$" [note: edited by SamEV] was an inappropriate slang term. I have blocked the account indefinitely. Thanks, Nishkid64 (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, unfortunately it is in the D.R., at least. SamEV (talk) 02:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] White Hispanics

I'm just having a bad day -- nevermind. Regards. Why is it that even when I sign it appears as if I didn't? Am I doing something wrong? --21:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)Mig

Thanx for the tip -- kindest regards and all the best -- Mig 17:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Migdiachinea (talk • contribs)

[edit] Dominican national symbols

The fact is that we have, besides the flag and coat of arms, a national bird and a national flower, that's all; at least declared by laws. Of course we could include other things but it is necessary that is by tradition, not by law (for example, merengue as a national dance). For me, monuments should go on a different page, and it would be a good one, with so many monuments. The cultural institutions, such as museum and others, could go in another page relate to Culture in the Dominican Republic. We have to start writing new articles instead of increasing the size of this; when I try to look for any information, I find that there are few Dominican pages of interest or with enough information. I do not know if you can develop those pages; I do not have much time now because we are having some problems in the Spanish Wikipedia. In any case, you know that you can count on me. --Pepemar2 (talk) 22:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I think that it is ok to write something about some monuments together with symbols; anyhow, monuments are symbols of a historical event or person. But I think that it would be nice to develop an independent article on Dominican monuments, or maybe a Category:Monuments of the Dominican Republic and add articles to that category. I will try to do something about that and I will let you know. But we are having a lot of problem because a lot of photos and images of the Dominican Republic (in English and Spanish) are being deleted because of violation of copyright or something similar. I do not know if I can keep working without knowing if the format will be completely different the next time that I visit it. --Pepemar2 (talk) 00:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sovereign's Largest Posession

Is Canada (in terms of land area) not the UK. The UK of course is where the Sovereign's largest number of subjects reside. YourPTR! (talk) 14:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

You're quite right. SamEV (talk) 13:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] white latin america Cristiana Frixione

my friend if you look white you are white i look white and am american but maybe somewhere down the line i have a non white ancestors but i look white so there for i am same thing in latin america,in other words just because you cant trace there whole ancestry does not mean they cant be consuidered white, also there is no such thing as a one drop rule in latin america like in north america and there is no such thing as a pure race includeing the caucasian race you just add to the ignorance that everybody in latin america is just a mutt and are the reason we even need to have articles like this--Wikiscribe (talk) 19:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikiscribe, I agree with you, so your message is misdirected. This will become obvious if you re-read my comment and others I made there before. SamEV (talk) 19:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latin Europe

See the talk page. I think some of these things need careful attention. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalclearchanges (talk • contribs) 17:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latino (demonym)

EDGARR is back... The Ogre (talk) 18:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

sorry you missed me I was on Vacation. I missed you guys also. Hey SamEV, I liked your above response very much. Also your work in White Hispanic. Why is it we are having difficulty in the latino article.. Seems to me we are on the same page on just about everything else EDGARR (talk) 05:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me, I posted something for you in my talk page, please view.EDGARR (talk) 06:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I read it, and found it encouraging. But let me say that Branden's opinion is not relevant, as it is not specific to Latinos, the subject of the article. The other point you made about including the rest of the American Heritage quote has validity, but it really belongs in the Controversy section, IMO. SamEV (talk) 06:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I will add in the controversy section. Branden's is considered the foremost authority on the subject, his studies apply to all human beings. Writes good books, check him out.EDGARR (talk) 08:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] We need to work on the D.R. page

Hello SamEV its BigGabriel555 i was looking at the D.R. page today and i saw all these need citations and verification stuff and i wanted to tell you that we need to work on the page alot so if you have any spare time maybe you can help fix the page up thank you

[edit] We need to work on the D.R. page

Hello SamEV its BigGabriel555 i was looking at the D.R. page today and i saw all these need citations and verification stuff and i wanted to tell you that we need to work on the page alot so if you have any spare time maybe you can help fix the page up thank you. BigGabriel555 (talk) 03:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] OK

what do you think of Latin Europe now? (it took me ages by the way so if you don't like it I will have to drop dead) ;) 89.241.246.10 (talk) 15:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you so much i will help as much as i can. BigGabriel555 (talk) 23:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] notable Latinos

Hi,SamEV, I was going to add a another sections to the Latino article called Notable Latinos. However you say their is already an article with that title. Can you tell me how to find it? I did a search, but nothing came up. Thanks in advance...EDGARR (talk) 00:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

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With regard to the Indo-Europeans and the Indo-European Homeland pages The statements that are being contradicted are unsupported. They are flat statements without citation. If anyone wants citations for my contradictory statements I will provide them -- none should be in doubt. There is no evidence that Hattic was spoken in all of Anatolia in 6000 BC - 7000 BC to the exclusion of any form of IE language. The burden would be on the author to support such an extreme view. The statement is of course biased and definitely POV and that is why my statements are being objected to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthwelltold (talk • contribs) 04:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

So support your statements. What good is it to fight unsupported statements with equally unsupported ones? See the obvious symmetry? SamEV (talk) 04:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Info

Hello SamEV! I don't know if you know this, but User:Crystalclearchanges is a suspected sockpuppet of User:Iamandrewrice. Just thought you should know... By the way, I've changed my mind regarding the gallery in Latin Europe - the stuff the other user said convinced me. I shouldn't have let myself carry away as I did! I am now against a gallery in such an article. See you around! The Ogre (talk) 07:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, check his talk history - it's very instructive... The Ogre (talk) 07:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
What was wrong with my contributions? huh? Crystalclearchanges (talk) 17:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Why can I not just be left to get on with editing??? :( Crystalclearchanges (talk) 19:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
As of now you are, aren't you? You haven't been blocked. SamEV (talk) 20:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Its kind of hard to concentrate on articles when I'm told I'm going to be blocked, and the "suspected sockpuppets" mentioned on the list are literally growing every 5 minutes, so I think someone is up to something here. I don't understand what is supposed to come of this. I was just trying to get on with my editing, and actually have a good reputation for once, but no, i'm never allowed am i... ¬_¬ Crystalclearchanges (talk) 21:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
hello... can you go to the WP:Administrator's noticeboard of incidents or whatever it is called... as there is a thread about me there, and one person seems to think I am being disruptive. Can you join in the conversation please? Crystalclearchanges (talk) 21:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
WP:ANI there thats the right link... its the bottom thread... Crystalclearchanges (talk) 22:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I'll check it out. SamEV (talk) 22:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 22:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Check your email. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 22:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Latin Europe

Hi. No, of course I didn't swear it off. I wasn't that active yesterday, and only took up threads where my replies were bound to be more concise. I do apologize for leaving you hanging.

However, as I have said, that is not my main interest at the moment. Outside of some business I had to attend to in real life, there are other projects I had promised to deal with, and they are rather distant from the topic of that article. My interst was also sucked into a debate, after a user decided to aim a racial slur my way and I felt I needed to report him. It also may turn out that we are on completely different time zones (it's now early morning where I'm at). My main interest was in pointing out some flaws with the article - which, I should stress again, I do not attribute to any particular user, and I do not trace back to malevolence on anybody's part (though I see some evidence of POV pushing, it is most likely the deed of CCC and, more recently, the one user who keeps adding some countries to the list). I wanted to start a discussion about this, which is easier done than reshaping the whole text, and I am ready to admit that the arguments I presented so far may turn out to be the tip of the iceberg.

I will answer your question once I feel I can concentrate back on that article. This would most likely be later today, if all goes well. I did look over your post, and actually got you the first time (before you rephrased it), but I was not as involved on wiki as I would have liked to in the past day or so. Again, sorry about that. Best, Dahn (talk) 04:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Big Favor please

hello SamEV can you do the biggest favor ever for the page can you please go to yahoo and go on images and type in exactly National palace Dominican republic and upload i believe the second picture to the right i believe its the national palace i had on the Dominican Republics page i can't do it because every time i upload a picture it gets deleted so please can you do this for me i owe you big thank you so muchBigGabriel555 (talk) 23:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] thank you

ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh thank you for trying —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigGabriel555 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 22 March 2008

[edit] El Salvador

Another user fixed it. Thanks for the heads up. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 06:46, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anglo article

Oye, amigo ... 'ppears we're going to agree to disagree a bit on that Anglo article. As the article is currently written, it's pretty clumsy, and talks more about what "Anglo" allegedly is not than what it is. You might take another look at the ref that's there as we continue to work on a revised version. I'll see if I can come up with more cites. PS: that former Cajun ref is now a dead link, and I'm not sure that there is support for the "non-Cajun" mention in the text. Plus those "offended by Anglo" cites are ancient (look at the dates); I'm not sure that folks are still so touchy these days as "Anglo" has come into broader usage and acceptance as simply meaning "English-speaking" rather than "English ancestry." GiveItSomeThought (talk) 00:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Latin American and Iberian Britons up for deletion

given your comments on the talk page, thought you might be interested Mayumashu (talk) 01:58, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reference #9 in the D.R. Page

hello SamEV i was hoping if you would fix the reference #9 o the page please i dont know how to fix it myself so im hoping if you will please and thank you BigGabriel555 (talk) 23:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Apology

Everyculture.com is an excellent source to find anything to contribute in entries for articles about Costa Rican, Panamanian, Paraguayan and Uruguayan communities of North America. I apologize if I was apparently lazy and violated any copyrights by simply copying/pasting the info. from the pages to the articles, now I reckon to done that if I was caught may be illegal. Please forgave me and you can improve or include new entries to the very articles yourself if you want. Thanks SamEV and I will accept my punishment. + 71.102.53.48 (talk) 17:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Asian Americans

Afghanistan is located in the center of Asia, it's people are mutli-ethnic. The country comes within South Asia, Central Asia, or Western Asia. This would make the Afghan people living in USA as Asia Americans. Middle Eastern Americans generally refers to Arab people, Arab culture practicing people, Arab cultured nations, even the people as far from Asia as Morocco are generally considered as Middle Eastern Americans in USA. As I pointed out earlier, most of Afghanistan's population are Asian looking people while only smaller number of them have Arab looks or practice Arab style culture. Starting with the largest ethnic group of Afghanistan, the Pashtuns are same as Pakistani or Indians. The Hazaras look like orientals so they are naturally Asians. Uzbeks and Turkmen are also Asian looking people. Tajiks are Iranian (Middle Eastern) looking people and they are only 18% of the population of Afghanistan, that's according to latest statistics. The Afghan culture is very different from Arab culture, only religion ties Afghans with Middle East. Religion is not to be used because Indonesians, Pakistanis, Indians and many others in Asia practice Islam so that doesn't make those people as Middle Easterners. My conclusion is that Afghans in USA are first Asian Americans and second Middle Eastern Americans. Afghan culture is very closely bonded to the Indian subcontinent, you'll not find a single Afghan American house in USA that don't watch Indian movies or listen to Indian music. Try finding Afghans who watch or listen to Middle Eastern music, probably 1% do. I'm not trying to get on your nerves but these are facts and you have to follow them, don't worry why Afghanistan was not listed here or there maybe because they haven't got to it yet. So please try to understand and leave Afghan Americans in both Asian Americans and also in Middle Eastern Americans. It doesn't hurt to do that and I'm sure you'll not find any true Afghans who would disagree to being called Asian American.--119.30.77.35 (talk) 03:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

"Afghanistan is located in the center of Asia"
It's not about location. Australia is located SE of Asia. What inference are we to make? Certainly not that most Australians, as is the case, are Western Europeans!
Most importantly, you don't have to convince me: what you do have to do is source your claims. If you can, it won't matter that I disagree with you.
It would benefit you to study our policies, beginning with WP:NOR and WP:V. Good luck. SamEV (talk) 03:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
You may find this very helpful: Race and Hispanic or Latino Summary File. It contains the race codes used by the Census Bureau. SamEV (talk) 07:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:First Ladies and First Gentlemen

Category:First Ladies and First Gentlemen, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)