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[edit] Movie Deaths

Just added new section, bring any knowledge you have about Samuel L. Jackson's deaths in movies. I added some of the movies he died in, but I could be mistaken about a few of the names. If anyone knows any other movies he died in, please be sure to add them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nehrams2020 (talk • contribs)

Unfortunately, that doesn't meet the criteria for WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information, namely its provisions against FAQs. For example, we don't contain lists of films where an actor played a cop, had a sex scene, etc. --Madchester 16:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filmography

Why is a selected filmography shown? One of the things that is special about Samuel is that he has starred in so many movies over a short period of time.

Well, if you notice this filmography basically includes 95% of them. You can see something like 4 movies per year, every year from 1995 on. By "Selected" it would just mean we exclude something like a bit part or cameo. JackO'Lantern 19:45, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Highest Box Office Gross a link to that article would help?

I think he might have been at one point, or maybe not. But he isn't right now [1] JackO'Lantern 23:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I modified the top of the article to change these claims to match more reputable sources than the hearsay quoted in the original. These sources include CNN and Box Office Mojo as described in this text copied from my Post on Tom Hank's discussion page:

According to the sidebar on this CNN page, Harrison Ford's grosses "are the second-highest of any actor in Hollywood history, after Tom Hanks." (emphasis mine; note: no mention of Samuel Jackson). Furthermore, according to Box Office Mojo, Samuel Jackson ranks 8th on the list. That's two distinct, co-supporting, reputable sources that agree on at least the top two names on the list (and neither of them are Samuel Jackson!).

216.240.7.149 04:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Samuel l. Jackson is awesome!

Why is the Filmography in anti-numerical order?--Honeymane 00:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I can clear up the box office issue. The original figure came from the-numbers.com. The discrepancy comes about when determining what is counted in that over all number. the-numbers.com used the grosses from every film that he was in, even if it was a small role. Mojo and others use only the figures of movies where he has a significant role. example - the-numbers.com would have included the total gross for Goodfellas. Mojo would not include that in his total. Soon after I pointed this out to him, he mentioned it on Leno. Access Hollywood (I think) pickd it up and got it wrong. They called him the 6 billion dollar man. I think they got their figure from world wide gross, but did not clarify that fact. So the whole thing ended up a mess. BUT basically it just biols down to how you are going to look at the numbers. Thediva 10:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)The Diva

Also I sat down with him last month and he talked quite ab bit about The Cleaner. You can check out the article on his site www.samuelljackson.com

Home of the Brave has been pushed to March. But I forgot the date. The Jumper probably won't come out until 2008. As of last month, it was still being filmed. I think BSM is coming out on 2/23/07

I would love it if someone added infomation about Samuel doing that Barclays bank advert a few years ago.

[edit] Pop culture section

I'm seriously doubtful as to whether the Pop Culture section contributes anything meaningful to this article. Jackson was parodied twice on Chapelle's show? Who cares? Is anybody actually going to look up Jackson on Wikipedia and see this as useful? -Joshuapaquin 16:57, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I completely agree. The popular culture section is just a transcript of the Chappelle show. I am going to cut it down.'



The Samuel Jackson mixed drink recipe :
-1 part Samuel Adams
-1 part Captain Morgan
-1 shot of Jack Daniels

[edit] Comment in the Bio

Is it really necessary to say in Samuel's biography that he often played a black man? Not trying to be humorous, just trying to trim the fat, as it were.

Thus, he is usually cast into roles that involve a cool, controlled, "in-the-know" black man.

I think that "black man" could be substituted with "character".

Edit: I just remembered that I should probably be bold.


--'character' could be substituted for 'black man', however does it convey the same information? Are the characters Mr. Jackson plays notable for being black men, or simply characters? Beyond the fact that he is a black man, and hence most of his roles will be as a black man, are the 'cool, controlled, "in the know"' roles he preforms typified by his colour? Or could an actor of different race play them as convinvingly? It is valid to note that Jackson is used to protray a 'Black Man' and not simply characters who happen to be black. Having seen a fair amount of his films, I will note that his role in SWAT, Star Wars, and Kill Bill have all been simply of a 'cool, controlled character'. Do his older roles lean more towards a typified 'black man'? I havn't seen enough to judge, (my memory of pulp fiction suggests colour wasn't a defining characteristic of his role). If someone feels that they have seen enough to judge, they should feel encouraged to post here as opposed to simply reverting the change.


I was bold, and added "many of which(the characters) have a tendency to snap, and become agressive", as seen in pulp fiction, jackie brown, xXx, die hard 3 and sphere. And this may be biased, but also a Gonzoism, but when playing san andreas, every cutscene with tenpenny, i was expecting him to explode in rage all over carl. Jackpot Den 01:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

wow i have no ability to figure out how to revert the picture... someone fix it from that bizzare pic... M@$+@ Ju ~ ♠ 18:54, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

The picture isn't that good, a different one would be better .--Karimi 15:03, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that is an awful picture. We don't have anything better? Not even a clip from one of his movies? Seriously, my eyes... BethEnd 21:26, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

BLARGH! NEW PICTURE NOW! PLEASE! -69.249.85.13 00:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IMDB

For some reason his internet movie database link went to Fred Ward's page. I dont have a clue why. their number ids werent even that similar. I've changed it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Thom32 (talk • contribs) .

[2] Beats me why that editor changed it. They also changed the IMDB link on Freedomland (film) to point to Last of the Mustangs as well [3]. *shrug* Cburnett 18:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vegan or vegetarian?

Samuel L. Jackson#Personal life says vegetarian while the article is in Category:Vegans. Which is it? Cburnett 18:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

He's vegetarian, not vegan. I've corrected the category. Þicaroon 02:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
He's neither. In a December 18, 2006 interview with Jay Leno of the Tonight Show he stated he was eating meat. He might have been in the past but is no longer. --Nehrams2020 20:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

-I'll ask him. I've never seen him eat red meat, pork or chicken. I think I saw him eat a shrimp salad once. BUt I won't swear to it. Thediva 11:01, 25 December 2006 (UTC)The Diva

[edit] Good Article Nomination

I nominated the article for Good Article status. Please consider evaluating the submission if you have not significantly contributed to the article. --Nehrams2020 07:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Trying again! --Nehrams2020 00:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article nomination has failed

The Good article nomination for Samuel L. Jackson has failed for the following reason:

This article needs to be cited. Most of the article has no in-text citations and this must be taken care of before the article will be approved
I will nominate this article as an Unreferenced GA, but please add the citations and try again for GA status. This article will surely be approved in that case.
--The Talking Sock talk contribs 20:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I have again replaced the image. Please note that Image:SamuelLJackson.jpg is unacceptable for copyright reasons. Please only replace the current image with a freely-licensed image (e.g, one licensed under the GFDL or one of the acceptable CC licenses). —Chowbok 20:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Can anyone source this? "Shortly before graduating from Morehouse, Jackson was seen in a McDonald's TV commercial in the early 1970s. " Mad Jack 17:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I think I remember seeing that somewhere on the Internet a few months ago, but I just did a quick search from google and nothing came up. It can be readded later if someone finds a source for it. I also checked his imdb.com page where it lists multiple commercials that he has been in and McDonald's wasn't mentioned at all. --Nehrams2020 19:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
LOL, yeah, I took it off, I'm one of those "revert first ask questions later people"...:) BTW, can you think of some better arrangement for the pictures in filmography? IT just seems a little odd for three pics to be there one after the next. Mad Jack 19:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I didn't notice you took it off until I checked the article after coming to the talk page first. Anyway, the pictures really do need to be fixed. I have always wondered how to fix the locations of the ones in the filmography section, so it's good to see someone else does too. You just recently resized several of them, but I think they are a little too small. I'll increase them a little bit. Could we put one of the pictures in the references section, just because it has room? I also think we should get rid of the one where he is in The Man, the picture's quality isn't that great and looks like it was merely cropped. I'll let you use your revert first ask questions later power to decide. --Nehrams2020 20:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
LOL, yeah, it looks better. At least one of the pics has to go, not sure what one though. Mad Jack 03:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filmography

Does anyone have a source for the "Poker Nights" and "Halo" listings? Google searches for Poker Nights seem to indicate it was some kind of unconfirmed rumor. The Hayden Christensen co-star thing seems to play off of Jumper, in which the two are co-starring. Mad Jack 19:43, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

These are unconfirmed. I asked him about Poker Nights at some point and I think he said it mentioned in passing at a film festival and that's how it all started. I'll ask him again.

This filmography is not nearly as comprehensive as it needs to be. It is a widely known fact that Samuel L. Jackson is in everything.

[edit] His role in Snakes on a Plane

Okay, I added his role as Neville Flynn in Snakes on a Plane to the Notable Roles. I feel it's notable because of all the hype of him being in it caused on the internet. Thatoneguy64 21:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penguins

Someone wrote "Farce of the Penguins", I'm pretty sure that's not the title...

No, it's actually the title of a new parody film. We even have an article about it! Mad Jack 20:58, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hmmmm

Wow, what an incredibly weird joke article... Maddocks: Homeland Security bans Samuel L. Jackson from all flights Mad Jack 06:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interview with Jackson...

I just wanted to make a note to offer a new external link. It's an interview with Samuel L. Jackson when he was promoting "In My Country". You can see it here. Think it would make for a good addition.

[edit] DRUGS

Was he not a heroine adict at some point? Surely that is a more important bio fact than his golfing aspirations? Reaper7 23:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)


Yes he was an addict. He freely talks about it when asked, but does not dwell on it. I think his golfing aspirations should stay. He is proud of his golf game. Thediva 11:07, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quick-fail

Movie images need FU rationale. Please nominate again after this is fixed.--SeizureDog 00:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I put the article on hold as well. In addition to the above concerns, there is an unbalanced emphasis on film roles. The problem I see is that "Snakes on a Plane" does NOT deserve this level of coverage. It is not his most prominent role, so it does not deserve to receive the most coverage in the article. A single sentance, such as "His most recent featured role was 2006's "Snakes on a Plane" would suffice. Most recent is NOT always most significant, and the article should not imply so with the level of coverage it gives. --Jayron32 06:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I touched the section up about Snakes on a Plane a little bit. The critic's response about him could probably be removed since it is just one critic and probably deserves to be on the Snakes on a Plane article itself. However, I don't think it should be whittled down anymore since he did receive a significant amount of media attention for the film and the music video.--Nehrams2020 07:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
At issue is mainly that Snakes on a Plane should not receive MORE article-space than say, Pulp Fiction does. The film critic quote, though referenced, could probably be combined with other information better. I perhaps recommend something like "In his most recent film, Snakes on a Plane, Samuel L. Jackson portrays "his usual no-nonsense authority figure"" with the Syracuse Post-Standard inline reference there. It tightens up the awkward langauge, and shortens the article space taken up by this film, but doesn't lose any information. Also, I found this line: "He is usually cast in roles that involve a cool, controlled, "in-the-know" character, many of whom have an aggressive nature. His roles almost always involve a memorable line delivery, many of which are heavily laced with profanity which has over the years become an inadvertent source of humor for many Jackson fans. Jackson's trademark voice inflection lends heavily to this attribute. " as entirely WP:OR. It makes several claims that need to be either referenced or it must go. Also, the turn down of the 50-cent role doesn't specifically cite the film, and is also too long. Most of this information could be moved into the article on 50-cent's film. Here you need to name the specific film, and reduce to a 1 or 2 sentance mention. These fixes SHOULD make this article good-article quality, if you ALSO address the fair-use problems cited by the other reviewer above. --Jayron32 07:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Passed GA status

I have passed this article as a Good Article. All of the concerns by myself and others seem to have been addressed. Now that it is a Good Article, keep improving it, but don't let the quality deteriorate. Continue to add new, relevent information and improve the prose as needed, but take care that unreferenced and/or irrelevent and/or non-NPOV information does not sneak into the article. Good Job! One improvement you might want to consider now is to add all of the films from the article to the filmography. For example, "The 51st State" is mentioned in the article, and not listed in the filmography. You may want to fix this. But altogether, great job. All biographical articles on film stars should look this good! --Jayron32 21:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia Section?

My last edit was more suited for a trivia section than 'personal life', but I felt a bit cautious creating one withou consulting the masses first :).--Reverieuk 17:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, looks like my addition wasn't welcome, I appologize. --Reverieuk 19:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Trivia sections aren't really recommended in articles as they aren't encylopedic. As for the peronal life, it needs some trimming. Jaranda wat's sup 19:10, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, it was on the article a couple of months ago, and it was decided that it should be removed then as well. We have removed the trivia section to help the article reach its GA status. With any addition, it should be sourced, to help ensure it is verifiable and accurate. --Nehrams2020 19:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Fellas

I think it should be added that he apeared in the movie "Good Fellas" in 1990

[edit] BMF & Use of the F-bomb

How can you call an article complete on Sam that doesn't make any reference this nickname? Also the continual use of the word fuck by his characters? I mean this is associated with him so much so that the line about too many mother fuckin snakes on the mother fuckin plane was added to Snakes on a Plane at fans insistence. Also, he has parodied this characteristic while hosting the MTV Movie awards (an event not even mentioned in this article.) Research is need to add this in an encyclopedic manner, since is has become synonymous with Mr. Jackson himself. MsDivagin 16:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Ya, even when was in Star Wars, he had the letters "BMF" stamped on the bottom of his lightsaber.

[edit] (Small comment) The main picture

Really, it should be changed. Showing Samuel L Jackson in a golf outfit is like showing Tiger Woods in full American Football uniform - it doesn't make any sense and will probably confuse people that don't know who he is. Is there any other picture that can be used? --Joewithajay 15:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iron man

It has been rumored that he will appear in the upcoming movie as Nick Fury, a character who was modeled after his likeness.

[edit] piano lesson

It claims that he was in the Piano Lesson sometime in the decade after 1976, but I think the play was written in 1990 or so.

It was written in 1986. The section says 1970s-1980s MrBlondNYC 19:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sam Jackson Template

Last October I finished making a template for the actor, but I benched it after having other articles to work on, as well as my personal life. Anyway, here's what I had created in my sandbox. I'm thinking to add it to the article, just thinking back to all the hard work I put into it at the time makes me want to do it now haha. But I figure I'd take opinion aboard first. Hope you guys like it - constructive opinions appreciated. -- Harish - 05:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

It looks great, and if you want to add it I don't see why not. I thought in the past that templates like these were deleted, but I think that was only if it was put in every single film article the actor/actress was in. Would this go at the bottom of the article after the external links? --Nehrams2020 (talk) 06:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback. Yeah, this would primarily stay at the bottom of just Samuel L. Jackson's article, (perhaps also his popular character portrayals that have their own articles...) for easy access to articles relative to the actor. Particularly useful with him, being so popular and with the number of films he has been involved with. -- Harish - 16:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually, a while ago the WP:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers made a determination not to use filmography templates in articles unless they served a purpose that couldn't be addressed solely on one actor or film page (for example, a template for the films featuring Fred Astaire & Ginger Rogers, or Laurel & Hardy, etc.) A template like this would likely not remain long. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Frozone?

Didn't Samuel L. Jackson do the voice of Frozone in The Incedibles? Lightman2 (talk) 09:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Never mind. I just checked the article. He did. Lightman2 (talk) 09:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References in Pop Culture?

Should we include a section to the article including information on this subject? I know Wikipedia discourages trivia sections but Jackson has recently become a pop icon and has had numerous major references in movies, telivision, and books alike. 68.219.26.177 (talk) 23:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)