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, which is currently under Israeli military occupation.

I think the West Bank article explains the control vs. occupation thing well enough. Not every mention of these disputed territories has to call them "occupied", any more than Tibet has to be called "occupied by China". See occupied territory.

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[edit] South Korean movie named Samaria implies a very pure sense to the word

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For links to this interesting movie and a review check this URL out: http://urijamjari.blogspot.com

It's about an amateur prostitute that is in High School. She and her friend are seeking enough cash to travel abroad, but there is a very major price to be paid to avoid being caught in what could be considered a very puritanical country. Sorry to take you guys off topic, but this movie has some very high impact images in it.

[edit] US official view

The previous article was unsure, though that really seems irrelvant to this article. The official US position is to sit on the fence and wait for a final-status agreement to be reached by Israelis and Palestinians. Official US policy has never recognized Israeli sovreignty in Samaria, but has reluctantly tolerated the establishing of Jewish settlements with a very watchful eye. Shuki 23:07, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merge Samaria/Sebastia

Merge - though this large section about the city/ruins of Sebastia in this article needs major cleanup. --Shuki 20:07, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if merging would be accurate, because though Sebastia is next to Samaria (site), one is a village, and one is an archaelogical/national park. One is Area B and run by the Palestinian Authority, and one is Area C and run by Israel. TewfikTalk 21:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

If the article is written properly and clearly, confusion arising out of this will be avoided. The way I see it in general without getting POV: Samaria is a region, but also the ancient city Samaria, Hebrew:Shomron, Greek:Sebaste. Sebastia is also a nearby Palestinian hamlet (I linked to on the article). I don't know if a seperate disambiguation article would do, or a 'other article' tag enough on multi-pages, though in the end, the result[s] is relevant to Sebastia as well. --Shuki 22:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I think that "Samaria is a region" should be in a separate entry than "Samaria (site), as village, or as an archaelogical/national park". the site should have one entry clearly explaining the historical & political complexities, and the region should have another, emphasizing its natural qualities; unique climate, topography, flora-fauna, and general geography

if there's no objection, i'll write in that direction. when i get a "round toit" :) Shilonite 12:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merged

Separating Samaria as a modern region and political bounderies, versus archaeological site makes sense, and would merit separate articles if it's long enough. I've merged the Sebastia, Middle East article to here for now, since 90% of the material was already duplicated [to or from] here. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-28 06:46Z

Hi Quarl. Today I was looking for the page on Sebastia and I was redirected here. I am going to re-create the page Sebastia, Middle East since it is a topic in its own right and while located in Samaria is not by any means its equivalent. I hope that's okay with you. Tiamut 21:19, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay then. What I've done is created Sebastia, West Bank. I replaced the redirect to this page with a redirect to that page which also mentions that the modern-day town is directly adjacent to the ancient ruins of Samaria-Sebaste, and remains of Sebastia (from at least as early as the Roman period onward) also lie within the modern-day town. The modern-day town itself has been scarcely excavated. I'm going to expand the other article slowly over the next little while. Your feedback there would be appreciated and also on how to untie the gordian knot between all these articles. Tiamut 00:21, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where is it on the map?

Where is Samaria on the map? 131.123.231.143 22:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Where is Samaria on the map? Badagnani 13:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Samaria is another name for the city of 'Sebastia' located near Sebastia, West Bank as well as the area described in the 'Geographical location' paragraph. --Shuki 22:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Where is it on the map? Badagnani 23:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[1] or goto [2] and search for Sebastya. --Shuki 23:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, where is it on the map in this article? Badagnani 23:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

It says Shomron on the map. --Shuki 18:54, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, then, that's very confusing and not helpful to our readers. Either the map or the article needs to be changed to make this clear. Also, some maps I have seen depict "Samaria" as a region, not simply a dot (city). This also needs to be made clear in whatever map is used in this article. Badagnani 19:07, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

The map remains highly inappropriate, not listing the name "Samaria," nor the region of the same name. Please address this. Badagnani 07:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The use of the word "Palestine" in this article is not historical

"Palestine" is a term that came about for the land in 70 AD by the Romans after the first Roman-Jewish war.

It would be "Palestine" as a term for this land before 70 AD.

[edit] Term usage note

In the "sister" article, I have presented an argument why we need a usage note to indicate that the term "Samaria" is 1) controversial and 2) not commonly used outside Israel. To keep the discussion manageable, please post counter-arguments (and arguments in support of adding a usage note) there. MeteorMaker (talk) 16:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I have suggested a modification of the lead in Talk:Judea#Term_usage_note that also applies to this article. Your views are welcome (but please post there, not here). MeteorMaker (talk) 09:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed

[edit] Accuracy disputed: "Samaria", a historical or modern toponym?

I have added a "Disputed" tag to the page, until the toponym dispute started in the sister article on Judea, which also affects this article, can be resolved. To keep the discussion manageable, please post your views there, not here. MeteorMaker (talk) 16:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

My edit was not vandalism. Bullet items NEVER have spaces between them. Look at any wikipedia article. Look at any references section.68.148.164.166 (talk) 02:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)