Talk:Sam Mitchell (EastEnders)

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What does everyone think of all these titles that have been added to this article? I think they look messy and they aren't needed either. Gungadin 13:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IBOX

AP, let me know your thoughts on the box when you notice this.Gungadin 23:21, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Lollage. Yeah it looks ok. Not sure about the second image, actually, but it's something that will grow on me. anemoneIprojectors 23:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I know what you mean about the image, but I think it's because Daniella westbrook looks fluorescent in that image. I will try and find a better one and see if that changes our opinions.Gungadin 23:33, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it's because there's nothing above it to separate it from the text, like there is when an album or single has a second image at the bottom. anemoneIprojectors 23:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Is there anyway that we could put a blue frame bar above the pic, but make it so that it was optional? So that we can include it only when we use 2 images? otherwise we can change it around and have the family drop section above the image? Gungadin 00:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, we can make it so there's a blue bar if there's a second image, but it might be complicated so I'd need to try to figure it out. anemoneIprojectors 21:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
It took me this long to work it out, but I've got it right! There's always a |- hanging around when I try to do clever things with templates! What would you like your blue bar's caption to say? :) anemoneIprojectors 21:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

That looks much better, thanku for doing it. Do you prefer it now? By caption do you mean the place where it says "Altenative image"? That sounds ok to me, or we could have former actor I suppose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gungadin (talkcontribs) 22:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I think "Alternate image" is fine. I came up with it last minute. Copied the "alternate cover" bit for singles. Yeah I do prefer it now. How long until we merge the two infoboxes so they're all the same? :) anemoneIprojectors 22:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
We could do it any time you like. I was going to put in more fields for other family members. I'm keen to do this so that we can get rid of those overlong family section on all the bloody Falhertys and Liam Butcher. I think it looks weird when the family section is so big and there's only a line or two of writing. All the characters can have a complete infobox family section, except Pauline, because it would never be allowed ;) Speaking of Pauline's ibox, I noticed that someone removed 'status = deceased' (lol). I'm giving up on that article now, im so bored of debating over her. My opinions are always automatically incorrect, and even if I or others object, certain individuals just do things the way they want regardless. OOU info has been cut and I'm not happy with the enforcement of ambiguous guidelines like 'Tense', especially as the changes are based on someone's interpretation of the guideline and nothing else. And we got an oppose because one word was "is" instead of "was", which is what the guideline tells us to do!! Are you feeling like me too? (I notice you've given up on all the debating also :)Gungadin 00:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Because of the family section, changing the userboxes needs to be done manually on each page, so it'll take a long time! It's not a simple move/redirect/change of a template. Pauline's status was removed because she has a date of death, meaning it's obvious that she's dead. Can't really disagree with that. I hardly follow the FA debate let alone get involved! I want it to pass but it is annoying. I didn't know OOU stuff had been removed though. What like? anemoneIprojectors 00:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I sent you an email via wiki to explain some things, let me know if you get it. Regarding the family issue, I still think we could swap it over now without any problems. The list of family in a character with an original ibox, will move into the collapsible menu. But this wont matter because we have a field for 'family' within the dropdown menu. It's meant for the family articles (like Beales/Fowlers), but without a family article link, the field will just list the family the way they were in the original infobox (non-specific like Grant, Phil Courtney etc). This way we could add sibling children field at our own pace. Would that not work? Gungadin 02:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh yeah that would work. The easiest way would be to either redirect the first template to the new one, or delete the first one and move the new one - or even copy and paste the new one to the old one, and redirect the new one, thus retaining the entire history of the first one. And I did get your email, thanks. anemoneIprojectors 10:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I think the last option sounds best, so we can keep the former one in the edit history.Gungadin 17:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

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