Talk:Sam Kinison

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Contents 1 Breakthrough 2 Deleted speculative material. 3 Where he died 4 Kinison's place of birth 5 Guitar used in Wild Thing 6 More on Wild Thing 7 helpful 8 Photo 9 Death

[edit] Breakthrough

The November 14 1985 Letterman appearance is listed as Kinison's breakthrough, however, Kinison's first television appearance was on "Rodney Dangerfield's Ninth Annual Young Comedians Special", broadcast on HBO on August 3 1985. See [1].

The Letterman show was Kinison's first appearance on broadcast television. --68.219.188.81 15:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I corrected the spelling and a little bit of the grammar, but the article is still an infantile eyesore.

[edit] Deleted speculative material.

Deleted stuff about Kinison talking before his own death, supposedly about his death. Also deleted stuff about how he might've survived if not for moving around.

The text deleted actually said things like "It is speculated that..." and "it is said that...he is said to have said..." Please, that's junior high.

I don't know that this didn't happen, but it needs to be sourced or verified. The article even gives the impresion that he was alone, so who saw this stuff happen? At the very least it needs a sourced for who reported it. The article still needs a lot of work, but I saw those two paragraphs and couldn't leave them to give some young naive person a false sense of mysticism clouding their understanding of a great comedian.

So, if it happened and someone witnessed it, then cite it. Or, if it's a popular urban legend, then label it as such. But otherwise, leave the "To this day, no one really knows what happened....but some say..." crap to bad television specials.

Although everything about this criticism is strictly correct, the omission of this episode is conspicious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cranky1000 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where he died

Does anyone know the exact highway number he was killed on? (unsigned)

According to findadeath.com, if you start in LA, head east on I-40, then head north on I-95 at the interchange, it's either three or four miles north of the interchange. --Jkonrath 19:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, i think he was killed driving a Viper, not a Trans AM. Can anyone confirm this?

[edit] Kinison's place of birth

Underneath the picture it says Kinison was born in Peoria, Illinois, but the article states he was born in Yakima, Washington. Which one is it?

[edit] Guitar used in Wild Thing

I'm pretty sure he was playing a custom Kramer Richie Samobora model or a Kramer Liberty, not a Stratocaster. This link shows one guitar of his, and him playing it in the video, and this link shows the supposed airbrushed one. Perhaps someone can take a look at the video and compare?Bryanedp9 16:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More on Wild Thing

Aerosmith and Slash among others make cameos in the Wild Thing video. I can't believe Dwezel Zappa is listed but they aren't. I'm adding them.

[edit] helpful

Maybe it would help people understand the Libyan jokes better if it were clarified that when Mr. Kinison was alluding to "Where do they keep the baby girl" he is talking about how American bombers killed Gaddafi's baby daughter. 68.49.242.230 23:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ahassan05

I think the whole section should be changed. It portrays the routine as being pro-Libyan bombing. I had always thought it fairly obvious that it was not--but if there's really a serious school of thought to the contrary, at the very least both interpretations should be included.

[edit] Photo

Why the heck is there no photograph? What kind of biography doesn't have an image? Tell me some fair-use nazi isn't patrolling this page making sure no one commits the unforgivable sin of seeing what someone actually looks like? 71.110.158.173 19:16, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Death

I corrected the roads listed. Mr Kinison took US 95 North from I-40. He was going to Laughlin, Nevada but turned off to take US 95 by accident. If he had continued into Needles, he would have found the well known(but unmarked at the time) shortcut that he had been told to take. I was a witness to the accident scene. --203.84.188.38 (talk) 15:15, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but there's no way we can confirm that. I'll add tags. IronCrow (talk) 23:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)