Talk:Sam Cooke

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Does anybody know his full name or even if that is his birth name? JoanB

His last name was Cook, like his father's, without the later added "e". I'm don't know of any middle name. Hammer 19:27, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

German translation is complete, so leave a note at de:Diskussion:Sam Cooke if you change the English article. -- TomK32 14:31, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] Date of birth

There seem to be confusion about Cooke's date of birth. Various sources on the internet claim it's either 1930, 1931 or 1935. This website has a photo of Cooke's gravestone with the year 1930 on it. Thuresson 12:27, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

That stone appears to be some kind of commemorative stone with the wrong date, not a gravestone. Tcassedy 19:46, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


Anyone know when he was really active? I'm just going by the year he released his first single, and the year of his death. Evan Reyes 22:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where did the information in this article come from?

There are no reference footnotes. Part of the article seems to be quoting someone's point of view. Whose material is this? Editors of this article need to read WP:V and WP:CITE. Thanks! Mattisse(talk) 22:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, seems to have a lot of NPOV problems! --Center4499 02:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
This is why music articles aren't well suited to Wikipedia. Reads like a well written article to me; the sort that would fit perfectly into the Guiness Enyclopedia of Popular Music say. Unfortunately, colourful well written articles aren't considered NPOV in the popularly (mis)understood sense of the word here (neutered and boring)...
That said, it certainly needs citations. --kingboyk 12:04, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why so much about the death?

The article devotes many more words about Cooke's death than it does about his life and accomplishments. That seems very odd and imbalanced -- his life was certainly more notable than the circumstances of his death. Shouldn't the bio section be expanded, and/or the "death" controvery be reduced down to a paragraph or two? Vandelay 13:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need more about his life...but NOT less about his tragic death

Sam was a great talent...truly sad that his life was cut so short. I agree that the women involved in his killing definitely sound extremely shady. To me, it's obvious that he was at least robbed by the dumb hooker. Not sure it involved an actual murder conspiracy or not...probably will never know.

Tom70.119.219.0 16:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


  • Etta James account of how Sam appeared at the funeral home doesn't seem very consistent with the crime scene photos and the photo from his funeral. Many people look significantly different in death (especially after being worked on by a mortician), but it doesn't look like Sam was "nearly decapitated" in the crime scene or funeral photos:

http://www.morticom.com/famousdeathsmusiciansphoto004.jpg

http://www.morticom.com/famousdeathsmusiciansphoto004b.jpg

JSDA (talk) 22:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

I think You Send Me is going to be in the public domain in the UK in october. Shame we can't add it to wikipedia, as US copyright law is 95 years + 70, instead of 50. Supposed 03:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tupac Discontinuity?

It says that Sam had managed to publish a record post-mortem, entitled "Shake." Had he already recorded this and it had not been finished ny the time he died in '64? ~white.matthew.09 (forgot to sign in) 209.137.182.35 10:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)