Talk:Saltcoats

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This article is not neutral.

Explain WHY it is not neutral? Douglasnicol 21:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of name

Sorry to disagree, but I believe that salt production came from saltpans and not salt salt mining.

That might be correct, I didn't put in the mining Douglasnicol 14:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Boundaries

My recollection of the Saltcoats/Stevenston boundary is at variance with the author's, and that the boundary with Stevenston was a few hundred yards to the east of the railway bridge. Auchenharvie was within Saltcoats, as were the Campbell Lands between Auchenharvie and the sea.

Sorry, I'll have to disagree with your assertion. Auchenharvie is within Stevenston. If you want clarification, the address of the leisure centre is marked as Stevenston. Look at this web site (The Council one, you can't get much more official than that)Douglasnicol 14:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

http://www.naleisure.co.uk/index.php?f=3

Douglas, it is correct that the postal address of the leisure is given as Stevenston, but that was built after the burgh disappeared and the three towns merged. The west end of the old Auchenharvie estate was a public park with playing fields, within the Saltcoats boundary. To east were the grazing fields of the estate, which were in Stevenston. I would counsel caution about taking a modern postal address as being the definitive bounds of the old burgh. The maps available at http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit_page.jsp?u_id=10361965 tend to confirm that the boundary was to the east of the old Caledonian railway line, thus including the sports fields of Auchenharvie within Saltcoats.

As I recall the boundary was on the Stevenston side of the entrance gates to the now demolished Auchenharvie House. I believe that the House was within Saltcoats as were the farm buildings and the early 18th century dovecot. The fields to the east of the farm were with Stevenston as I recall. The boundary maps quoted above certainly back that up. The maps also show the Campbell Lands as being in Saltcoats.

See, one other thing I'm using is the Stenlake local history books. R McSherry wrote each book on the three towns and he has lived in that vicinty as far as I know all his life (If you look in those books he appears in some pictures when he was young). He has a picture of the old engine house that is the other side of the road from Auchenharvie, the one that's often mistaken as either an old keep or coal mine, and its in the Stevenston book. Now, R McSherry is involved, or at least was, to some extent with the North Ayrshire Museum in Saltcoats. Douglasnicol 14:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I know that this is a very old conversation, but after consulting the OS maps of 1911 available for viewing at Old Maps, I thought I'd clear this up once and for all:
  • The Burgh boundry for Saltcoats was indeed a few hundred yards east of the Caledonian railway bridge, next to the west entrance to Auchenharvie House.
  • The land that Harvies Leisure Centre sits on was part of the Saltcoats Burgh.
  • Auchenharvie House was part of the Stevenston Burgh, as was the Beam Engine House (barely, it was right next to the border)
The original burgh boundary can still be identified today: there is a path between Harvies and the large orange gravel area next to Auchenharvie Academy that runs down the exact position of the boundary. I even believe that the sign post for 'Saltcoats' is on the same former boundary. --Dreamer84 18:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Page move

Hi folks I hope you don't mind, but I moved the page for contunuiy reasons, to identify that Saltcoats is in North Ayrshire in the article. EwanMclean2005 21:48, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I think that quite a few people actually do mind, you need to discuss changes like this, you could simply have mentioned North Ayrshire in the article if it isn't already there. Fraslet 21:52, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I have requested the disambig at Saltcoats be deleted so that this page can be restored at that location. That, along with the removal of the Largs redirect, should clear up the remainder of this absolute mess. --Dreamer84 22:19, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Admin has refused this request. Technically, he is correct, so I have set up a correct disambiguation article at Saltcoats (disambiguation). Note that I did this by setting it up from scratch, instead of moving the infernal disambiguation article currently at Saltcoats, so as to avoid leaving any links or redirects pointing at the disambiguation article. Note that the new disambig article points at Saltcoats, not Saltcoats, North Ayrshire. See also the Talk:Largs page for discussion of this mess.
I have to go out now for most of the rest of today, so maybe someone can put in a request to move this page back to Saltcoats at WP:RM? Thanks.
--NSH001 08:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Dreamer re-submitted his delete request, and this time it was successful, so I've now moved this page back where it belongs. That finally clears up all the North Ayrshire page move messes. Whew!
--NSH001 23:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Excellent. I've also submitted deletion requests for the remaining 'X, North Ayrshire' redirects as I think they are pretty much pointless now. --Dreamer84 23:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)