Talk:Sala y Gómez

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Contents 1 Size problem? 2 Note 3 Sala y Gomez PDF document 4 Reorg? 5 The geographical coordinates

[edit] Size problem?

This island cannot at the same time be between 70 and 300 meters long AND 700 meters long and 2.5 km² in area. Does anyone know the true size? 84.145.145.21 20:47, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You're not understanding the author correctly. I believe what is stated is the fluctuation in size as a result of the tide.

[edit] Note

What is considered land is the area above average high tide, and that does not fluctuate. I found a sketch map of the island on page http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Condor/issues/v090n01/p0259-p0261.pdf, with scale, took measurements from it and gauged the area. That should be reasonably accurate. The 2.5 km² were obviously totally wrong. I think someone can now take away the dispute flag, if there is agreement with this. Ratzer 13:30, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

I've removed the "disputed" tag. The 2.5 km² tag is, as you say, totally wrong, but this figure, whenceëver it originally came, is repeated on a number of sites, witness [1], etc. Happily, this is an inaccuracy that WP clones will soon no longer be propagating. You'll see I've also added a map. I don't know how accurate the scale is, as I kind of "averaged" from several different sources, and it still seems to be in, at the very least, minor conflict with the text of the article. (There's no way to reconcile many of the discrepant measurements given, not only here, but elsewhere.) I think this article should mention the Sala-y-Gómez seamounts as well, and should probably mention the Scott Bank, approx. 1.25 km to the northeast, and rising to less than 25m below sea-level. In other words, it is another peak of the same seamount, just 50m lower. Incidentally, Ratzer, what are you using to view that .PDF? It keeps screwing up on me--it downloads supposedly just fine, but is consistently "corrupted". I'm using AcroRead7. Et tu? Tomer ^TALK 07:24, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sala y Gomez PDF document

For me, the old version of Acrobat Reader 5.0 does the job. If you have trouble, go to page http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Condor/issues/v090n01/ first, look for "Sala" on that page and klick on the PDF link. Ratzer 15:59, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

To email a fellow wikipedian, go to their user page, and click "Email this user". Tomer ^TALK 04:27, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reorg?

Anyone wanna tackle reorganizing the article, now that we've got the facts straightened out and gotten some additional text put together? I'm thinking there's enough to justify sections on at least ==Flora & Fauna==, ==Geology==, etc., and possibly ==History==. In any case, I'm thinking the discussion of after whom the island was named should go closer to the beginning of the article. My proposal:

• Opening/Intro
• History
• Description
• Geology
• Flora & Fauna
• See also
• External links

If nobody takes it up, maybe I'll get to it this afternoon...meanwhile, I'd appreciate any comments. Tomer ^TALK 16:33, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Okie dokie...I took the bull by the horns. Anyone care to help with the cleanup? :-p Tomer ^TALK 04:26, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The geographical coordinates

Where is Isla Sala y Gómez located at?

• 26°27′S, 105°28′W
  • Source: These geographical coordinates have been part of the article Isla Sala y Gómez since the article was created. First, they were not in the Coor-Template format. The edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isla_Sala_y_G%C3%B3mez&diff=18828585&oldid=18463514 converted them into the official Coor-Template without changing their values. These geographical coordinates have been unchanged since.
    • My source for these coordinates was de:Sala y Gómez. I regard this as less authorative than the other sources which you have used. Warofdreams talk 09:43, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
• 26°28′S, 105°28′W
  • Source: Getty Thesaurus of Geographic Names Online.
• 26°30′55″S, 105°17′03″W
  • Source: My proposal after having manually checked them with http://maps.msn.com (the method is described in the article Geographic coordinates (obtaining)).
• 26°28′S, 105°00′W
  • Sources: Several online sources, found after having searched with Google "Isla Sala y Gómez latitude longitude":
    • http://www.ed-u.com/latitude-and-longitude.htm
    • http://www.bartleby.com/151/appendix/appendix-f-s.html
    • http://www.interopp.org/interopp/htm/cg_geo_s_tp.htm
    • http://www.exxun.com/esgn/ns_geonames_46.html.

I suggest the authoritative source for the coordinates are the current Sailing Directions (here: West Coast of South America): http://pollux.nss.nima.mil/NAV_PUBS/SD/Pub125/. According to this, the coordinates are 26°28′S, 105°28′WRatzer 21:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)