Talk:Sakakibara Seito

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Contents 1 Biography assessment rating comment 2 Article merger 3 Names of Sakakibara and Nevada-tan 3.1 Move to Sakakibara (something) 4 Hikikomori section is inaccurate

[edit] Biography assessment rating comment

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Inline citations and maybe an infobox, and this could be a B.

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 12:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article merger

Propose that the two articles Sakakibara and Jun Hase be merged. With the article on the murdered child being a stub, at the age he was killed, all the information that was relevant about his life has already been entered into the article, and it will likely never expand beyond that. Additionally, there is a precedent for the merger: the Satomi Mitarai article has already been merged into the Nevada-tan article for the same reasons.--Mitsukai 14:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Merged as of this date.--み使い Mitsukai 22:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Names of Sakakibara and Nevada-tan

As per Wikipedia:Divulging personal details and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, the names should be left out of the article. Please ensure that these standards are adhered to.--み使い Mitsukai 14:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

This seems to still be in question, as the removal of Sakakibara's real name's been reverted twice. User:Liu Bei asserted that the two documents referenced above do not constitute WP policy - of these, he is correct that the 'Divulging personal details' article is explicitly stated to not be an active policy proposal. The other cited document, 'Biographies of living persons', is not a "policy" de jure, but is considered a 'guideline', and in that document it gives the following points:

• "Any assertion in a biography of a living person that might be defamatory if untrue must be sourced. Without reliable third-party sources, a biography will violate No original research and Verifiability, and could lead to libel claims." The real name of a past convicted murderer, who has since been released from custody and is a free man according to this article, and whose identity was deliberately concealed by the Japanese government - by law, can certainly be considered 'defamatory'. This leads us to the second point, that the point must be sourced. The source currently given - http://www.taconet.com.tw/AdTaconet/-288fbc553e26ead545a80d32dee4fe7a|1147595179-/dynamic_frame.htm?sid=nec007/sakakibara.htm&TACO=288fbc553e26ead545a80d32dee4fe7a|1147595179 - currently returns an "Access denied" error with some Chinese text I can't read. Therefore, at present, it is unsourced, and it either needs to be removed or a new reliable source referenced.
• Secondly, the guideline also cites a "presumption in favor of privacy".
• Thirdly, as was pointed out on Talk:Nevada-tan, divulging the name may be in violation of Japanese law (whether this is relevant to Wikipedia is another discussion, and the source of some debate there).

I have not made this edit, in the interest of not starting an edit war - feel free to leave me a comment on my talk page if you want to further discuss this, or here.

UOSSReiska 17:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

After a little further consideration, I changed my mind, and decided it was probably 'safer' to leave it out for now until an updated source can be found. Let it be on the record, though, that I have no meaningful objections to the name being included *if* a source does exist. ... but someone got to it before I did while I was writing this comment. Heh. UOSSReiska 17:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Sakakibara (something)

This probably needs to be changed to Sakakibara (murderer) or some such as Sakakibara itself is a fairly common Japanese surname and is needed seperate for disambiguation purposes. Williamb 12:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

You're right It really should be titled Sakakibara Seito. Hill of Beans (talk) 23:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hikikomori section is inaccurate

A Hikikomori is somebody who has withdrawn completely from social interaction and the outside world, preferring to spend their time watching videos, reading books, surfing the internet, pretty much anything other than being outside of their room where they might have to actually interact with others. There's an enormous difference between somebody whose fear and anxiety leads them to lock themselves in their room and avoid social contact (anti-social), and somebody who derives pleasure from hurting others (sociopath).

A quick read over the linked wiki article:Hikikomori doesn't mention any of Sakakibara's behavioral "cues". As for this article, neither the section labelled Hikikomori, nor the attached source material mention any of these factors. Assigning the same label to everybody who is socially maladjusted is out of line and certainly out of place in an information resource like this Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by I plissken (talk • contribs) 06:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)