Talk:Saints Row 2

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someone put a lot of stuff that is blatantly false. can someone edit this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.193.232 (talk) 20:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Hit the submit button by accident (instead of preview) when I was still writing the article. There should be enough information in it now with references etc. SeanMooney 00:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Article Quality

This article is terrible. 4 quick problems:

1) redundancy - mentioning several times that Johnny Gat is in the game, 2) unsubstantiation - many many claims with no referencing, 3) extravagant listing - even GTA IV doesn't have a list of all the different activities you can partake in. Does a game for which barely any information has been released need this? 4) Flattering praise - phrases like "Saint's Row 2 boasts over" sound like they've been cut from a press release.

I tried to cull out all of the crap in an earlier edit (under an anonymous IP), however it was reverted by Tentimesone. Therefore I'll ask whether anyone else thinks this article could do with a clean-up, because obviously there needs to be some sort of consensus before someone (like me!) makes the necessary changes. Electrosaurus (talk) 01:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, have a look now. Better? Tentimesone (talk) 10:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone

Yep, that's a lot better. :) Electrosaurus (talk) 22:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I will, of course, continue adding to the article, and keep in mind those problems you thought the article you had, and avoid resurfacing them. Obviously, people are going to plagiarise (correct spelling?} this article. Just now somebody wrote something about testicles and how they were blown off in the yacht explosion or whatever- I edited it out. Tentimesone (talk) 08:26, 11 June 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone

[edit] Writing

This article looks like it was written by mildly mentally challenged child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.129.170.155 (talk) 00:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copy + Paste

This article has just been copy and pasted from a press release

[edit] Local Co-Op

In the one section of the page it said onine co-op like crackdown, and local. Does that mean that You can play Saints Row 2 Coperatively on the same system. To mean it doesn't seem real, unless it was confirmed by Voilition or THQ I don't think it will happen, I think it will happen over XBL though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcwil477 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I sure hope you can do co op on 1 system.... if not thats BS >:O —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.112.197 (talk) 21:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean like in San Andreas, Two players on the one screen? I hope not, that was bloody awkward! But it's better than nothing I suppose. (Bobbo9000 (talk) 00:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC))

Ya i hope that saints row 2 is split screen so you can rome around Stilwater and take different paths or team up an alliance you know. And you change your color because in my opinion the color purple is dumb it sucks you should be able to change your color. But the thing that i am proving is the 2 player it should be split screen unlike San Andreas like that other person was talking about when it is one screen and you have to stay be each other you should be able to split up like take a position that would be awsome. Make it Split Screen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.105.79.65 (talk) 00:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 15 years between Saints 1 and Saints2

So if 15 years have past between the two games, does that mean the new game will be set around the 2021 mark? If this is the case, does that mean they'll be running with a slightly futuristic look for the game (I don't mean futuristic like sci fi futuristic) ? What implications will arise from this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbo9000 (talk • contribs) 00:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I read in GameInformer that the player has awaken from a decade-long coma. If my math is correct, a decade is 10 years. Therefore, I believe we should change the plot section a little bit.

i thought that the city progressed 15 years but its not actually set 15 years later 202.76.158.8 (talk) 23:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] boobs

someone put in some stuff about boobs that had nothing to do with the game so i deleted this content. if someone wants to put it back go ahead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.207.187 (talk) 16:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

BOOBS!!!!! Tentimesone (talk) 11:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone

[edit] PC

This game is also coming to the PC. See this link - http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=71022

and also this link for official news - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=187121

I think the article should include this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.180.52 (talk) 17:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Yea but there is no official confirmation that it is coming for pc. Do you have any official sources to backup?.--SkyWalker (talk) 13:43, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there is official confirmation. I already linked it. "THQ has confirmed that Saint's Row 2 will be coming to British shores on August 29. The sequel, which will be available on PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC, has received positive praise." THQ has already confirmed it for PC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.185.234 (talk) 21:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Saints Row 2 does not, and I repeat NOT come out on PC. I don't know what you guys think, but it doesn't. So, on IGN it has information pages on SR2 for X360, PS3 and PC, that's just wrong, IGN have got it wrong. Official THQ and Volition interviews have confirmed that SR2 does not come out on PC and never will. OK? Tentimesone (talk) 06:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone

http://www.thq-games.com/uk/game/show/4317/Saints%20Row%202 That looks pretty real to me Free2game365 11:48 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Well looking from so many sources. It seems this is coming for pc. Even THQ page states it coming for pc. Should we add this in main page is the question?. Any answers?. --SkyWalker (talk) 07:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

THQ, when announcing the game, only listed 360 and PS3 versions [1] and no announcements since then have suggested a PC version. Even news today about a two month delay mentioned only 360 and PS3 [2]. I will also point out that the US version of the SR2 product page from THQ is 360/PS3 only. [3].
Basically, if there is a PC version, the proof that it is coming for it is very very weak, and we don't have enough reliability to state that. Myself, I would not be surprised to see such, or maybe down the road as a separate release, but we can't state that information until its more obvious that it is truly the case. --MASEM 13:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I will point out now we can talk a PC version, since THQ has actually stated to the effect there's a PC SKU when asked about it. --MASEM 20:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images for this page

Hey, does anybody have any valid images for this Wiki? I had uploaded some onto it but some people, who won't be mentioned *cough* cough* *Masem* *cough* decided to delete them all. Apparently they hadn't passed some silly policy on Wikipedia about uploading images or whatever... This Wiki is way too boring, it needs to be spruced up... If you've got an image and know how to come under the Free content policy or whatever it is, don't you think it's about time you uploaded them? The page desperately needs them! Tentimesone (talk) 10:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone

You can upload them, but you need to follow proper procedure for uploading images to WP; this is a mandate from the Wikimedia Foundation in order to provide a free-content encyclopedia. First, images are copyrighted and need an appropriate license tag. Secondly, because they are fair use of copyrighted images, you need a fair use rationale to describe why they are needed. And finally, we are to minimize the use of non-free fair use content, so only 2 or 3 images are really necessary.
Image uploading is very easy if you use the link on the left side of any WP page "Upload File" in the toolbox area; it will prompt you for a fair use rationale and the correct license to use from a drop-down menu. --MASEM 13:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I just uploaded an image to this page. Does it follow your fair-use policy? If not, perhaps you could edit the image instead of deleting it this time? Tentimesone (talk) 01:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone

The copyright license is correct, but the image still lacks a fair-use rationale, such as {{non-free rationale}}. Also, the image does nothing to help the reader understand the article - if anything, the image should be of gameplay, highlighting a new gameplay feature if at all possible. --MASEM 02:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, whatever, but don't be a pain! Just leave it there, and make sure it doesn't lack a fair-use rationale. I have no idea what it is, so if you're so smart, why don't you fix it? Tentimesone (talk) 05:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone

Hey man, as you know, there are now three images on this page, the box art, and the other two images. However, the box art image should be cropped so that you can't see the 'XBOX 360' template at the top. And also, how many more images could I add to this page before it'd be too much? Cuz i really wanna add that one with the SWAT roadblock and stuff, and Ive got some very big versions of all the images and some without IGN or Gamespot logos in the corners. So basically I've got plenty of high quality, decent images to spare and I reckon they should be on this page :). How many do you think I should add before it, as you say, becomes too heavily imaged? Tentimesone (talk) 11:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone

Adding another image may be approaching too many. Non-free images are meant to be added when they significant help increase the player's understanding of the article, and should only be used in minimal numbers. Obviously, the box art needs to stay (but it can be reduced to cut out the 360 header), but right now, the other two images are not terribly help to understanding - they're great decorations but that's all. I know you had a picture at one point of the customization screen; this would be a good picture to add as to explain this new approach. Another picture to show one of the new gameplay features (using bodies as shields, or the like). Just adding cool action shots that may look good doesn't help. As because we don't know how well the game will be received, we need to be careful about what images are added now, as maybe a certain gameplay feature will be really popular and we'll want to have a picture to show that, but exhausting all the pictures now will lead to problems then. --MASEM 13:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sandbox or Open World

The designers refer to games that have an open world like GTA as "open world" games while using "sandbox" more often for games that give the players virtual toys to play with and see what happens. The most famous example of a sandbox game is "The Sims" but other examples include Railroad Tycoon, Sim Theme Park, and Sim City. The article that the intro links to also has this information incorrect. However, I do not want to edit this myself because I'm a new user and I'm scared of messing things up. Maybe someone here can fix these pages?-bean23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bean23tx (talk • contribs) 00:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Both terms describe GTA style games pretty well, in case anyone was wondering. JayKeaton (talk) 02:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Annialator rocket launcher might be...

According to EGM, they mentioned "a guided rocket launcher". I believe the annihilator is a heat-seeking rocket launcher (like the FIM 92 stinger). The magazine issue of EGM is the november 2007 edition, page 90. It has a main topic of saints row 2. signed by: Ferrariguy1000 (talk) 04:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)re-eddited by: Ferrariguy1000 (talk) 17:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)