User talk:Saga City

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Welcome!

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[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Hi. Your article on Meikle Loch would be greatly improved if you mentioned details such as what country it's in. Deb 20:13, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Now fixed! And a category. Saga City 22:45, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Grand Union

Hi SC. Yup, the intro on Grand Union Canal now works better. Thanks.

Maybe it'd be worth going through all the canal articles with a similar introductory clarification? Andy F 18:57, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tieng Magazine

I removed this article from Category:Vietnamese Americans because it is not about a Vietnamese American person. While this article does relate to Vietnamese Americans, it is about a magazine, not people. — J3ff 05:46, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Possible copy violation

Hi, I'm not out to cause you a problem or make any trouble, so delete this message when you have read it; but I am a little concerned that many complete sentences at Thomas Tresham II seem also to be also here [1]. Of course you have to gather information and research wherever possible, but it might be good idea to, at least, re-arrange the word order a little, or put it into you own words. Sorry if you think I'm a nuisance, but if I don't tell you somebody else eventually will, as this could be construed as breach of copyright. Kind regards Giano 16:04, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Streetmap

Maybe it's me, but when I click on your link to streetmap.co.uk for any of the Northamptonshire villages I've looked at, it doesn't work properly - no map is shown. The map only appears when I select 'OS grid' and 'Search'.--JBellis 14:32, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] August, Graf von Platen-Hallermünde

Hi - I noticed you moved this article from August Graf von Platen-Hallermünde and deleted the User:Topbanana/Reports/A disambiguation link is suggested entry. I'm curious about both of these. Isn't August Graf von Platen-Hallermünde (no comma) the actual name? And how does moving the article fix the ambiguity? -- Rick Block 22:59, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • The two events were not connected. The man's name was August and his title was Graf von Platen-Hallermünde. Without the comma it made it seem as if his name was August Graf. Using a British example it's the difference between 'James King of Scotland' and 'James, King of Scotland'. With British titles it's almost invariably the case that there's a surname as well as a forename - 'James Stuart, King of Scotland' - but most German aristos never have had (or have never used) a surname. The suggested disambiguation link was false anyway so I removed it.

[edit] Bohai-kings filing

Welcome to WP, and thanks for the Kings of Bohai at List of people by name: Daa-Dam.

As a self-proclaimed pedant, you may not have been completely at ease with that location. You may be interested to see List of people by name: People named or prefixed Da, another step in a long piecemeal process. This process includes the conflicting and unpolished List of people by name: Van; IIRC, it began the same day i added Yo-Yo Ma to a LoPbN page that then already bulked over 54 kBytes.
--Jerzy (t) 17:43, 2005 Apr 1 (UTC)

[edit] Thrapston

Hi Saga City. I've requested a move back to Thrapston. It would help if you could go to Talk:Thrapston - Northamptonshire and vote. Thanks Chris Jefferies 21:19, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Award-stub

Hi Saga City - I note you've recently created a new stub category. Did you realise that stub categories should normally be cleared by Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting before creation? That way they can be vetted to check that there are a viable number of stubs (at least 60-100) and that the category does not cross the existing stub hierarchy before the stub is created.

If you can provide any information on why the stub was created, please add a note to entry for these stubs at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Newly-discovered stub categories giving the reason for it. In addition, if there is any Wikiproject associated with the stub add that information. In the case of award-stub, the main problem is it cuts clear across the hierarchy that has been perating on stubs for some time - it will take Oscars from film-stub, Bookers from lit-stub, Hugos from sf-stub, and Nobels from econ-stub, chem-stub, physics-stub... which is the sort of place that editors who know about these awards are more likely to be looking.

If you're interested in helping sort stubs, BTW, we're always looking for new members of the project! Grutness|hello? 09:10, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gil-Scott Heron

Many of the songs of Celtic F.C relate the lives of an oppressed ethnic group in much the same way as Gil Scott Heron later chronicled the similar struggle of Black Americans.

Hi! Thanks for contributing to the Gil-Scott Heron article. I go to ask, did you really mean that? Thanks.

Project2501a 21:59, 17 May 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Rushton Lodge

Sorry if I have reverted you, I was trying to revert this link [2] which seems now to have disapeared from the history. Odd things happening on the server tonight must be the hot weather. (I changed testament to protestation only to make the edit stick. Giano | talk 20:35, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Lickey Hills

Hello Saga City. I think you have made several edits to Lickey Hills which do not reflect reality properly. I have made some suggestions on the Talk:Lickey Hills page if you want to have a look. Leonig Mig 12:22, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] lots of edits, not an admin

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:33, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Minor edits

Please only mark your edits as minor when they really are (Wikipedia:Minor edits). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:23, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject British Army

I've noticed you sometimes contribute to articles related to the British Army. I've just created Wikipedia:Wikiproject British Army and just want to ask whether you'd be interesting in helping out when you can. It needs people to get the thing going; to make suggestions, and help organise the large amount of articles.

Take care SoLando 22:19, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Camille Huysmans

tnx for ur revisionz. Aleichem 07:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Request for Help

Hello, I'm reasonably new to Wikipedia and I'd like to ask you a question.

You wrote/made(?) the Category: Orders of knighthood in Jan 05. I think it ought to be divided into sub-categories by nation. Two questions:

  • What do you think?
  • How do I do it?

Thank you Avalon 00:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for the advice. It seems to be working although I have not finished. I hate to pester you but can I ask another question. In the course of creating the sub-categories I accidentally created two I'd like to delete. They are
  • Orders of knightdood of Norway (empty because I mispelt "knighthood").
  • Orders of knighthood of England (empty because I put them all in United Kingdom - because it seemed more useful).

I understand only admins can delete these. How does that work? Avalon 10:29, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Etymological dictionary

Hi, you added John Jamieson's Etymological Dictionary of the Scottish Language to Etymological dictionary. Do you happen to know which of the three languages disambiguated at Scottish language he meant? I suspect it's Scots language, but I'd like to be sure before disambiguating. --Angr/tɔk tə mi 06:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Category:Orders of knighthood II

Hello again.

I've done sub-divided "orders of knighthood" into quite a few orders of knighthood of nation", though it is not yet complete. It isn't always clear to me:

1) Whether a particular decoration is simply a medal or an order of knighthood. Orders like the "Order of Lenin", being communist presumably cannot be orders of knighthood.

2) Whether, e.g. "The Thistle" ought to be in the category "orders of knighthood of the U.K." or "orders of knighthood of Scotland" (probably both?).

I'd appreciate any thoughts you have.

Avalon 13:13, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{Townshipdis}}

Are you aware that {{Townshipdis}} isn't an offical dab template? Are you happy to replace it with {{disambig}} on all the pages you have altered? --Commander Keane 20:15, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Made the edit for you

[3] if that's what you were talking about.--◀Pucktalk▶ 17:45, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Treaty of Brussels

I see you're busy moving the Treaty of Brussels! Dont dont dont!!! This is a very VERY bad idea. The Treaty of Brussels of 1948 has been the basis for the Western European Union and NATO, both very important organisations that still exist! In international relations (and probably among historians as well i expect), the 1948 treaty is considered the Treay of Brussels. The treaty in 1516 is an obscure, historical event - which doesnt even have its own article page!!! Please, lets reverse this before you've changed all the redirects! The Minister of War (Peace) 13:45, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I've redone them, hope you don't mind. I did put up a notice at the top, hopefully this will clear up any misunderstandings about which Treaty is meant with this article. Greets! The Minister of War (Peace) 10:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Deletion_review#List of interesting_or_unusual place_names

Hi. You might be interested in a/m undeletion. -- User:Docu


The page was relisted on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of interesting or unusual place names (2nd nomination). -- User:Docu

[edit] Please check your WP:NA entry

Greetings, editor! Your name appears on Wikipedia:List of non-admins with high edit counts. If you have not done so lately, please take a look at that page and check your listing to be sure that following the particulars are correct:

  1. If you are an admin, please remove your name from the list.
  2. If you are currently interested in being considered for adminship, please be sure your name is in bold; if you are opposed to being considered for adminship, please cross out your name (but do not delete it, as it will automatically be re-added in the next page update).
  3. Please check to see if you are in the right category for classification by number of edits.

Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 04:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia survey

Hi. I'm doing a survey of Wikipedia editors as part of a class research project. It's quick, anonymous, and the data will be made available to the Wikipedia community later this month. Would you like to take part? More info here. Thanks! Nonplus 00:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Longroyd Bridge

If there is no other Longroyd Bridge, anywhere, then there is no conflict with anything else and therefore no requirement to rename/redirect a page just for the sake of it. The page created by the original editor was fine. the image was not to large for the article. Your editing made the image to small for correct viewing. Many articles that are not 'expansive' in text have a larger photo if it is relevant to the article, which in this case it was. Motto:- If it isn't broken leave it alone. 86.3.1.236 08:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chew Valley Village edits

Just a quick note to say thanks for all the edits you've made sorting out some of my spelling and typos on village pages in the Chew Valley - keep up the good work. Rod 15:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I've recently put the main Chew Valley page through peer review & made ots of changes. I've now put it up for Featured Article & as you've edited it in the past I wondered if you like to make some comment? Rod 15:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] House of Windsor

Hello, may I ask you why you were interested in editing Royals' related articles some months ago? I am asking becouse I found gossips and faked information posted by anonimous users, so now I am tryin to investigate the matter. Skysurfer 7:00 am, 4 may 2006

Can't remember any systematic reason; outside of my key areas (generally, but not exclusively, UK geography) I tend to wander around picking up points. I also take part in stub-sorting & categorising and I vaguely remember being reverted on categorising some people as being members of the House of Windsor who other editors said were not. HTH. Saga City 10:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Restub

Just wanted to thank you for restubbing the article Contoocook Valley Regional High School. I know I should have found the right catagory but I'm lazy =( --mboverload@ 01:03, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Restub

Could I ask you about the early restub that you did on John Charles Day? You introduced the fact that he was Catholic into the stub description. I wanted to remove this as I thought that he was famous in his own right as a renowned collector of art, a privy councillor and one of the judges who sat on the Parnell Commission. Could you let me know whether you agree? It's not a big deal but I thought you might have strong ideas one way or the other.

User:Gerryfarm

The article makes it clear in its opening sentence that his notability arises from his Catholicism. When moving things out of bio-stub stub-sorters try to move articles to the stub category where an editor with knowledge will find them and, hopefully, expand them. I have no objections to you putting it in UK-bio-stub or England-bio-stub if you think this is more likely to achieve this goal; stub-sorting is a matter of opinion rather than fact.

[edit] Twenty-one conditions

Thanks for redirecting to a better article. Would have appreciated though if you had cared to move the text with it! Cheers! Tazmaniacs 18:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I award you...

The Minor Barnstar
I, DakPowers, award you The Minor Barnstar for your minor edits, most of which go overlooked. Congratulations, and keep up the great work! DakpowersTalk 08:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Overton-on-Dee

I don't see the logic in the changes you made last night to the links to the Overton-on-Dee page from the Wrexham (county borough) and Tim Vincent pages. Are you in the process of renaming the Overton page? If not, the changes to not follow the convention used on other pages linking to Overton. I have reverted the changes pending discussion.

-- Maelor  11:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

No I did not make the changes as you describe them above - please see explanation on your talk page. Saga City 15:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the fix

Thanks for fixing my typo in Gilbert Heathcote-Drummond-Willoughby, 1st Earl of Ancaster! --BrownHairedGirl 00:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the fix

... fixing my silly mistake in John Scott Maclay, 1st Viscount Muirshiel. That was clumsy of me :( --BrownHairedGirl 20:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Leslie

Please can you explain why adding Abi Titmus to John Leslie's article is vandalism?--Spartaz 07:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I have put reply on your talk page Saga City 10:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
I, zzuuzz, award you this barnstar for your tireless work on disambiguating and otherwise fixing the whole of the United Kingdom. Thanks! -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I second this. GameKeeper 21:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] William S. Laughlin

I've marked William S. Laughlin for deletion, but since you had made an edit to that article earlier, I thought you might have some information on why he is notable. If you do, feel free to add it. Cheers, --Vectro 03:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oakham, West Midlands

Hi sagacity!

Oakham, a town in the West Midlands? There seems to be a cluster of Oakham Avenue, Road, Drive & Crescent in the Dudley DY2 postcode area, but a town? And the Oakham Roads in Sandwell (B69) and Birmingham B17 don't add up to a town either. Please can you be more precise? Thanks SiGarb | Talk 22:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

So it does! Well spotted. I made the mistake of searching at the highest level of magnification, which gave road names, but not the locality. But still, hardly a town. SiGarb | Talk 21:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highwood, Herts

Thanks for the message - as far as I can make out, Highwood is paret of Bushey - there's certainly a Highwood Primary School. Whether it's used as a locality name on maps I'm not sure. DuncanHill 09:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Ignore the above - I completely misread your message to me! DuncanHill 12:33, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Highwood, Herefordshire/Worcestershire?

It looks like it's near Hanley Childe, which IS in Worcs, don't have a big enough scale map of the area to check properly tho'. Thanks for spotting it. DuncanHill 12:38, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merrivale, Devon

In practice the next link up has quite a collection of good photos? --Herby talk to me 14:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Ashburn comments - I'll try and develop the stubs when I get a chance A response to this query would be helpful so that I can learn - thanks --Herby talk thyme 07:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] River Ashburn

As a point of interest did you check just how many "rivers" have pretty much the same text and are stubs in the area? The editor didn't managed to get the categories right either. --Herby talk to me 15:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

But this is exactly what stubs are for. They are like seeds; some grow, some die and others wither away. The comment about categories is not part of this argument unless you are implying that this is evidence that the contributor is failing in some way. Saga City 20:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redhill

In your recent edit to Redhill, you changed the "see also" link from Red Hill (disambiguation) to Red Hill. I am going to change it back again, because this is a way of showing future editors that this link is meant to point to the disambiguation page (it isn't an accidental incoming link which needs fixing). For more information see Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Links to disambiguation pages. CarolGray 09:49, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temporary Stuff

I'm following links to the Frank Miller dab page, and see you have a link (amongst many others) on your user page. This piqued my curiousity ... whatcha working on? ;) -- Robocoder (t|c) 15:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saint Marina

Thanks for reformatting the page. I have been editing the wiki for over a year now and still have lots to learn ;-) Asteriontalk 10:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timperley

Hi! Thanks for the contact and communication! It's great to have some support in this issue, as I was beginning to believe I was fighting a losing battle.

I've left some comments at User talk:137.205.8.2 in an effort to stop this kind of vandalism. I think this will help the situation.

Sadly however, this issue hasn't quite reached the level of seriousness with which the article can be protected. Should my communication with this user not have an impact, and we are consistently having to remove the offending sillyness, I will seek advise from an administrator who can block them in the short term as a means of punishment.

I hope that helps somewhat.

All I would add, presuming you are fairly new to Wikipedia, is that this kind of edit is far from uncommon. I'm constantly havin to play the role of a guardian for the Greater Manchester area articles despite a policy being formulated against this. It seems that the Royal Mail blunder not to swich their address system to include Gtr Mcr as a postal county means some people can't acknowledge the county division to this day (despite similar areas such as Cumbria and Merseyside being widely accepted)! Also I suspect there is a little bit of snobishness from the outskirts of the county about geographic locations!

Anyway, I'll revert the changes again for this article and monitor the situation. If you could do the same and keep me in the loop of things then I think we may overcome this sooner rather than later. It is an obligation of ours to remove this kind of material as its very inclusion goes against multiple policies.

Do feel free to contact me at any time about this issue or any other! Thanks again, Jhamez84 21:39, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Saga City - perhaps I can explain to you why the article keeps mentioning Cheshire. I have deliberately created an account today becuase I am sick of seeing people's efforts to include this fact deleted by you and Jhamez84. Nobody is trying to suggest that Altrincham or Timperley is officially part of Cheshire - we all know that it is now officially part of Gtr. Manchester (and has been since 1974). However, it is a fact that most people within Altrincham still put Cheshire (and not Gtr. Manc.) at the end of their address, even though this is technically wrong and has been for the past 32 years. This fact is important to include at the top of the article so that people are aware that most people within Altrincham consider it a 'Cheshire town' even though the reorganised boundaries say otherwise. Jhamez84 childishly dismissed this as 'snobbishness', which I find quite pathetic. I live in Altrincham (unlike Jhamez) and I can categorically say that never in my life have I seen a letter sent to me without 'Cheshire' written on it. It may be incorrect, but it is still a fact. Learn to accept this and stop calling it 'vandalism' just because you can't get your own way. I will continue to support those who maintain putting this fact in the article and I will do so myself whenever I get the chance. Btw - the above comment was written by me - Bob74 15:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

The above message is somewhat concerning, and is very much a bad faith threat. I've replied again to Bob74 at his talk page about his point of view. The policy is absolutely clear, we can remove his comment at any time, and should Bob74 persist, he may well find himself blocked. Keep me in the loop. Jhamez84 16:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] banbury related articles

hi saga city two things, firstly, was it necessary to change the articles to say for example hardwick, banbury to hardwick, oxfordshire? i ask because i know you stated banbury was not a county but it might make people think hardwick is a seperate settlement withen oxfordshire, southampton has a similar arrangement of articles on estates and they have southampton as an extension for all articles. You also stated that a couple of them were unique, well someone from another town may add another grimsbury from there town, i think it would be best to insure ourselfs from that sort of thing esspecially as they are not major articles, ill wait for your response before any major edits. Thanks Thatperson 16:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC) :)

[edit] Co-ordinates and things Nautical...

Cheers ☺

NevilleDNZ 03:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Below I repeat my post on Regan123's Talk page:

Yes I sort of see your point after having thought about it. I think the next step would be for me to provide information on each of the Wikipedia pages about their respective stations AND a map of all NSR stations thereby making a link between the two pages. I feel this would be highly enriching. Whilsy my site is a "blog" I do not use it as others use blogs. I try to use the blog as more of a website and I am in the process of obtaining a proper website which be all about the North Staffordshire Railway and each station served. Many apologies for any trouble caused, Aidan Croft 22:37, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I am not link spamming, I am adding the link to the site if it is relevant. All the places where I have included links are places that formerly had stations opened by the North Staffordshire Railway Aidan Croft 00:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barrow Hill

Re: your recent addition of Barrow Hill to the Barrow disambiguation page, I hope you don't mind, but I moved it down to the "See also" section at the bottom of the page, because I thought it looked odd to have "see also" twice. There's a style guideline for "see also" sections on disambiguation pages here. Thank you. CarolGray 10:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Very Important Person being considered for deletion

Very Important Person is being considered for deletion. You have made good edits to the article. Your comments at the AfD would be appreciated. Also, can you provide a source for your comment "first coined by the Royal Air Force in the second half of the 1940s". I've been unable to find a source for this. Thanks. Simon12 03:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey of English Dialects

Thanks a lot for your help on the article! It was much needed.

[edit] premièring/premiering

FYI: Alternative spellings in UK English. Kbthompson 11:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC) (the bot caught it before I did, sorry)

[edit] Altrincham

Hi, we've conversed before regarding personal attacks on the Altrincham and Timperley articles.

I'm having trouble again on the Altrincham article and talk page - the offender who was causing some disruption and incivility appears to be behind a fresh and obscure edit war.

The user is asserting that the overwhelming majority of just Altrincham's population, use the former postal county of Cheshire when sending their mail.

I find this objectionable as no such survey has existed to verify this, nor is it helpful to users as postal counties were abolished over a decade ago and demonstrate ineptitude of the population (which I don't find likely/true). It is also the only example of inclusion of this kind of material on the whole of Wikipedia!!

I've allowed the comments to stay, on the condition a [citation needed] tag is left there for the short-term. However I'm recieving threats and there are several unusual accounts that appear to be linked.

I was wondering if you would be inclined to give some support/leave comments, as a user who has dealt with this article before. Hope you can help, regards, Jhamez84 01:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

    • Hi. I recently posted this on Jhamez's talkpage ...........

'Hi, Jemmy here. I noticed this comment regarding Altrincham residents using 'Cheshire' as their postal address. I cannot, of course, comment on what the 'majority' do, but, I have two friends in Altrincham (adjacent to Dunham Forest golf club), one in Bowden and two in Sale (who, ironically, live on the banks of the River Mersey, so why aren't they in Merseyside?) who all insist strongly that they are 'in' Cheshire and also use 'Cheshire' as their postal address. Check out the 'Sale, Cheshire' article for a similar argument. You see, it's all a matter of belonging to 'The Cheshire Set'! 80.192.242.187 23:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.'

.......... and would add further, that any 'Local Government Re-Shuffle'/ 'administrative boundary change' / 'wards changed from one constituency to another' or 'any council activity whatsoever', would have no effect on the Royal Mails postal service. The 'post town' for Altrincham is Warrington, postcode beginning with WA, regardless of it being within the Trafford admin. area (and Warrington is 'in' Lancashire, although administratively, Cheshire). So, the residents of Altrincham may give their address as 'Timbuktu', as long as they give the Warrington postcode at the end of it. 80.192.242.187 12:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC) JemmtH.

[edit] Hello

Regarding the article Ash (near Sandwich) - you have edited, have you got any green idea about the origin of the name?

Eliko 23:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Diocese of Truro

Hi No problem, I think. No specific permission granted but I understand diocesan personnel share information and are pleased that this is made available to general public. In this instance I added material as their entry looked rather sparce and uninteresting. Paulcantrell2 22:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sully link

Heya. Are you sure that external link is suitable? Looking at it, it's entirely cobbled together from Wikipedia pages (!) such as Sully Island, Sully, Vale of Glamorgan and so on. There isn't a word of original material on it - well, maybe the disclaimer at the bottom. Vashti 11:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'd noticed that it is Wikipedia derived. I did think of excluding it on that basis but concluded that Wikipedia should 'return the compliment' and, over the years, Wikipedia and the site may well diverge.
OTOH I won't cry if you delete it. Best WishesSaga City 12:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I think it should go for now, on the basis of WP:EL "Links normally to be avoided... Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article.". I'll put it on the talk page, though, and if it does improve it can always go back. Vashti 17:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting articles

I clicked on random article button to find things to read, and I saw a page about a sailor that didn't seem very important. I asked if I could delete it, and someone I just met told me no, but to read a lit up link. I read that, and found a thing to cut and paste to put on the sailor article. I clicked on random article about a hundred times. A lot of the articles looked ok. But I found some more articles like the sailor article, too, that didn't seem very important. -MsHyde 16:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_School_%28Sapphire_%26_Steel%29. I don't get why it is in here. Someone has taken off the sign, too.-MsHyde 16:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, for this one, for example, I put the tag, and then it was removed. So I put the next tag up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_School_%28Sapphire_%26_Steel%29 Now there is a discussion. That one article had a whole category just like it, which can probably be combined in one thing, someone has suggested. I don't see what I am doing wrong. Some of the pages I put the tag on had very old tags which said they had no references. It doesn't seem like there is any central tracking of these articles. Isn't it helping to look through them randomly to see which ones need tags? -MsHyde 22:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

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[edit] NPA

Not true. Of course I experienced your behaviour on a specific article (as a proposal for deletion not about references) but then noted your general behaviour that has caused a number of editors to ask you to desist. You admitted yourself that you were looking at random articles. No one editor can claim to know Wikipedia's agreed notability criteria for every class of article. Please justify your comments against agreed criteria or you are just wasting everyone's time. Please understand that I am not saying everything is sacrosanct and, if you would care to research my own record, you will see that I have made nominations for deletions and have supported others. But please, if you are a genuine new contributor, understand that your current behaviour is wasting a lot of time. Seeking references on clearly identified stub articles shows your ignorance of what a stub article is and much of your other activity shows you do not know - and do not care to find out - about the ethos of this project. Saga City 22:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

PS don't presume to tell me why I am upset - I know why I am and I know why several others are.
  • Please review the NPA policy, and refrain from futher personal insults or harassment on my talkpage. Feel free to look over the many articles I have tagged for references, AfD'd, or prodded to see how very few complaints there have been, and how inappropriate the complaints were. Your insults, ownership behavior, and presumptions of bad faith are not appropriate, helpful to the encyclopedia (or very welcoming). I find that most people I have encountered--User:Radiant, User:LuckyLouie, User:Argyriou, User:Milo H. Minderbinder etc. are very easy to work with. If you think that reviewing random articles and tagging ones which could benefit from tags is "wasting everyone's time," that is an opinion you should keep to yourself--it is a clear personal attack, and you are certainly not welcome to leave it on my talkpage again. -MsHyde 22:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Reviewing WP:NPA might do us all some good. In particular, realizing that incivility is not necessarily a personal attack. His complete statement was "Please justify your comments against agreed criteria or you are just wasting everyone's time." In a more civil manner, he's saying that without properly explaining yourself, you are creating work for other editors. Perhaps this is your intention? *shrug*
Speaking of "ownership behaviour", by the way, you do not own your talk page. The Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines make little exception for how "welcome" a user or their words may be. –Gunslinger47 22:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
It seems that User:MsHyde was a confirmed sockpuppet of the banned User:Cindery. –Gunslinger47 03:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alexander Baird, 1st Baronet

Hi, the correct format is either Alexander Baird or if this article is occupied Sir Alexander Baird, 1st Baronet - however in no case Alexander Baird, 1st Baronet (see also Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(names_and_titles)#Other_non-royal_names) Greetings ~~ Phoe talk 06:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC) ~~

Hi, no problem. The convention exists already longer, however I have noticed that the knowledge about it is not very spread, though. Greetings ~~ Phoe talk 19:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC) ~~

[edit] subst:LoPbN Entry ???

Please review your Driedger edit, and let me know whether you really think that entry has been improved.
--Jerzy•t 07:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if the above request was an imposition, and i'll go ahead and act on the educated guess that the request was meant to imply: you acted on an often valid principle, to wit, "a lot of templates are better substituted than transcluded" and for whatever reason didn't get around to checking out the particularities of this case. Please don't subst Template:LoPbN Entry without further discussion; it's arguable that even a version for which could produce template-free & conditional-free markup is less desirable than the current version, and subst'n of the current version produces a result that is too cryptic to be regarded as editable by any tolerable proportion of the editing corps. Thanks, esp'ly for the rest of that edit.
--Jerzy•t 20:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendip Hills FAC

Thanks for your edits of Mendip Hills. I have now put it up as a Featured Article Candidate & comments, support or opposition is being recorded at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mendip Hills.— Rod talk 10:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delete warning

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to Cotswold sheep. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. --BlindEagletalk~contribs 19:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Please cease and desist from reverting edits that you have not researched completely. The interlinks placed in the Cotswold sheep article are perfectly legit. They provide the reader with information regarding the wool and related industry. This is your last warning. --BlindEagletalk~contribs 01:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stansted, Québec, England

I am a little amused that Québec has been moved to England [4] :) Marnanel 17:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A50 recent edit

It might make some sense to someone who has read the edit note that "it is in fact two roads" and if you knew why, but I cannot work it out. Suggest this needs reviewing or further explanation. Another issue is that because there are two tables there are now some formatting problems. I guess making one table would solve thisVictuallers 16:36, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tavistock

Your list links to [[Tavistock]], which has since been moved to [[Tavistock, Devon]], just a fyi. Cheers, Tomertalk 16:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

OK Saga City 21:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duloe/Duloe, Cornwall

Hi, I see you've dabbed [[Duloe]] to [[Duloe, Cornwall]] in the St Keyne article, but I'm not sure why. DuncanHill 21:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Aah - there's one in Beds as well. DuncanHill 21:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bramham cum Oglethorpe

I see that you have edited the entry in the above for the Battle of Bramham Moor by adding a link to the main Wikipedia article which, in fact is already there. To me, the way you have done it looks clumsy and I propose to revert the paragraph to how it was since the link already exists unless we can find a reasonable compromise. Please discuss? G3vmw 16:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! The edit you made at 19:10 23 July 2007 looks great. I appreciate your kindness in finding a very acceptable solution. G3vmw 20:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussing on stubs vs verifiability requirements

I've started a discussion on the stubs talk page about your recent revert of my tagging of a stub for lack of references. IMHO being a stub does not exempt a page from verifiability requirements, and thus does not exempt it from being tagged for lack of references. Anyway, I have started the discussion there instead of getting into a revert war over this, and I welcome you to join in since your revert of my action was the initiating factor for all this. - TexasAndroid 19:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CSD on Chilton (surname)

A tag has been placed on Chilton (surname), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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[edit] Geographical stubs

Cheers for the comment. I'd already agreed to remove the stubs, with a comment on User:Keith D's page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Northernpeak (talk • contribs) 15:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Notability of Old Basford

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[edit] watendlath

i notice you changed some settings on this page, i just wrote most of it today to try and expand it from a stub any advise you could give me etc. would be appreciated as i am new to this? many thanks John joskins 22:33, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Keep it up !

Saga City, you get everywhere. Well done-Bashereyre 08:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Under-linking

I am quite aware of the Wikipedia policy you posted on my talk page. Some people (myself for example) on Wikipedia think there is considerable under-linking in many articles where important context links are not present. I don't wish to argue about "coast" for example which is a real coin toss, I suppose; "ruin", on the other hand was an important in context link, especially for readers of the English Wikipedia for whom English is not their primary language. Hadrianheugh (talk) 21:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MoS:DAB

Thanks for keeping an eye on DAB pages. You may want to reread the style guideline. There are exceptions to some of the rules you've been citing such as "no pipes" and "one link per line". I've made some corrections to Fiddler's Green (disambiguation) per these guidelines/exceptions. Again, thanks for your contributions and realize these are common little errors that folks make. Regards, MrFizyx 19:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Douglas

Thanks for your good work on entabulating the works of John Douglas. It is a great improvement. The article itself needs improvement. I hope to borrow Hubbard's book in the New Year and do something about it (unless someone beats me to it). I wonder if it would then be better to make the "Works" into a separate "List". We could probably in time do with categories to John Douglas in Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. What do you think? Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:46, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, fully agree - there is a precedent with List of works by Clough Williams-Ellis that, every so often, I think of putting into tabular form. Saga City (talk) 17:24, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jurassic Way

A tag has been placed on Jurassic Way, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

The trail does not exist

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. SuzanneKn (talk) 19:03, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I put the correct reason on this, but I can't seem to find any links on this when I googled it. Does it actually exit SuzanneKn (talk) 19:04, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
See my note on the discussion page Saga City (talk) 20:41, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

When I left you the note about unreliable sources you will probably remember that the ramblers association was not linked up properly. SuzanneKn (talk) 17:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Royal progress

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[edit] AfD nomination of Royal progress

An article that you have been involved in editing, Royal progress, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal progress. Thank you. Caerwine Caer’s whines 02:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Royal progress

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[edit] Swanbridge redirect

Hi, I have updated and expanded the Sully Island page over the last couple of weeks. At the moment you have Swanbridge redirected to Sully and it would sit far better associated with Sully Island, as they are adjacent to each other. I have tried to work out how to do this but the wiki redirect instruction page seems to be written in serbo-croat...well I cannot make head nor tail of it anyway, even with my 138 IQ. Any chance you can change the redirect for me? Many thanks 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 15:55, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for Jane Howard?

If I am reading things correctly, you are the editor who added the offspring (issues, if you like) to the Lady Jane Howard article. What was your source? I am very interested as I am doing genealogy of Westmorelands in the U.S., and there seems to be a lack of consensus on whether Thomas Neville Westmoreland was son of Charles Neville, 6th Earl of Westmorland or his distant cousin Edmund Neville, who claimed the title of 7th Earl of Westmoreland. If you have a definitive source, that would be great.--Crazytonyi (talk) 03:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Normans and Wellow

Hi Saga City. I changed a link in Wellow (Notts) from Norman Architecture to Normans, 'cos it (the Castle) is a small round mound and not architecture. Is that OK? Or maybe it needs a link to Motte and Bailey? Ning-ning (talk) 10:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

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[edit] Xena: Warrior Princess

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[edit] Rushford

The new place you added is red link. Can you please start the article? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Meads

Thanks for checking into the article on Meads (in Eastbourne). Can you pse explain the CLR in curly brackets that is at the foot of the page? Regards from Mikeo1938 (talk) 14:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm no techie so can't explain with any precision. However the clr template clears the formatting and, in this case, caused the reference paragraph to appear below the picture rather than to its right. In other words it was only cosmetic. Of course if you are using a larger font size than medium the effect may well be invisibe. Hope this helps, Best Wishes Saga City (talk) 14:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
All understood and noted. VMT. Mikeo1938 (talk) 16:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Found poetry

Hey there. I noticed you edited found poetry a couple of years ago. I also notice the article has since stagnated. I was wondering if you help me improve the article by expanding it, adding citations, etc. or at least adding it to your watchlist, as it is has changed into a hotbed for vandalism. --Justpassin (talk) 23:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)