Talk:Sadaharu Oh

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[edit] Playing Career

Poo-T, I didn't think that section was too POV, seems like a pretty basic perspective on player popularity - and interesting at that. Thoughts? aww 13:56, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Sadaharu Oh vs Barry Bonds homerun remark. You can't compare what Sadaharu Oh did against Japanese only competition and in smaller ball parks where homeruns are easier to hit. Sadaharu Oh's homeruns only have meaning in the Japanese baseball leagues. Sadaharu Oh would not have done as well playing MLB in the U.S. at that time in history. An example comparison if Oh played MLB in the U.S.- http://baseballguru.com/jalbright/analysisjalbright08.html (the evaluation gives Oh only 527 home runs if he played MLB in the U.S.) Its like comparing minor league accomplishments to the major leagues. Japan has some good players, but they were not going against the same level of international competition, pitching (at the time), and larger parks as the U.S. players. There is also controversy over Japanese managers, pitchers, and fans promoting and protecting Oh's home run records based on nationalism and racism. We don't compare Japanese basketball records to NBA records in the U.S. do we? So why compare Bond's homeruns? The comment looks like something anti-Bonds people would use to smite and belittle. The comparison is unnecessary and should be removed.

[edit] Managing Career

I'm thinking about adding back a little more of the deleted description of the WBC. I'm not sure why it was taken out; it seems like a pretty big deal that Japan got by Korea after losing to them twice, as it would have been a really big deal had Japan lost to Korea. If there is a reason not to put a (shorter) version back, let me know. aww 16:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality

Oh's father is from mainland China, and Mother's is not from Japan. Oh had a chance to choose a nationality of PRC, ROC, or Japan. He've choosen ROC, so he is not a Chinese, but a Taiwanese holding the nationality of ROC.--Mochi 01:35, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

So it's correct that despite his being born in Tokyo to a Japanese mother, he was never a Japanese citizen? -- Jonel | Speak 03:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I wrote a wrong information. Before 1985, the Nationality law of Japan addmitted Japanese Nationality to child of Japanese father. So Oh could not choose Japanese nationality. But as a son of Japanese mother, he can stay in Japan. I don't know what kind of resident status he possesses now. --Mochi 18:27, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh's mother is a Japanese. She seceded from Japanese nationality in 1945 with her family. Oh's father is from mainland China. But, the then mainland China was Republic of China. Republic of China changed to only Taiwan since 1949. --220.150.117.118 28 May 2006


I was able to find this about Oh's ancestry http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=34003&page=3 :

"Oh's autobiography explicitly states his father told him about his (the father's) youth in a poor village in mainland China. Oh does have a Taiwanese passport, which is due to the politics of Japan means he couldn't have a Japanese one. Presumably, the passport is Taiwanese because his father supported the Chaing Kai-shek side in the Chinese Civil War rather than the Communists. That side came to rule Taiwan when the Communists ousted them from the mainland. It seems Oh's connection with Taiwan has everything to do with Asian politics and very little else.

Jim Albright"

Jim appears to be a highly credible source of information on Japanese baseball: http://baseballguru.com/jalbright/ --Jeff 20:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MLB Speculation

Removed the 527 HR number as the only source I could find to support it is one guy's personal number-crunching. If it can be sourced, please return it to the article. aww 21:37, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proffesional Carear

Removed the unneccesarily derogatory section mocking the standard of Japanese baseball, including the ludicrously speculative suggestion that Oh would have recorded less than 200 homers in MLB. This section sounded more like the sort of thing that people say in a pub. It was also terribly worded (describing the Japanese league as "crappy"?) and gramatically incorrect.