User talk:Sabertooth

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome!

Hello, Sabertooth, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!  --Koveras ☭ 06:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Hello

Welcome Saber. Are you Moroccan? -- Szvest - Wiki me up ® 15:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm Moroccan. I bet you're one yourself. :)

Salam

Yes and I am from Tétouan but living in Casablanca. And you? -- Szvest - Wiki me up ® 15:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm from the neighbouring Chefchaouen, and have always lived here.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabertooth (talk • contribs)

Cool. If you need any help just contact me. Follow the instructions above by User:Koveras to sign your messages. -- Szvest - Wiki me up ® 15:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Morocco WikiProject

Wikipedia:WikiProject Morocco -- Szvest - Wiki me up ® 18:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:GreenDayPromoPicture.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:GreenDayPromoPicture.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. This is an automated message from BJBot 04:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] The 3-revert rule warning

You've broken the 3-revert rule (3RR, for short) on the Raisuli/Raisuni article. Don't do that, or you'll be blocked from editing. I'm not going to report it this time, because you might not have known about the rule, but now you do know, so please abide by it from now on.

[edit] Raisuli/Raisuni

Regarding the point in question, what you, yourself know, or believe you know, is not an acceptable source on which to edit Wikipedia. You might be right, but you need to find a reliable source that says "Raisuni" (as against "Raisuli") is the correct form, so that the information can be verified by anyone else. That "Raisuni" is given preference in the online Britannica [1] is suggestive, but the point is not actually addressed in the article there, and "Raisuli" is given as an alternate. At the same time, Google-hits show better than a 10-to-1 preference for "Raisuli", showing that that form is overwhelmingly the better known one, even if it is not strictly correct.
As an aside, I also note that Britannica uses "al-Raisu_i". I don't know where this "er Raisu_i" comes from, but it's the first I've ever seen of it, and I must wonder whether it is a mistake -- perhaps even a simple typo by the originator of the article, who might have meant "el".
Anyhow, you must find a source saying that "Raisuli" is wrong and "Raisuni" is right. And again, take care not to break the 3RR -- and avoid edit-warring in general (of which I confess my own guilt in this case, too). -- Lonewolf BC 01:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

(Keeping this in one place, here, for sake of coherence -- LW)

Here's the Britannica article [2] . Obviously, the reason they put (Raisuli) is because that's what foreigners thought his name was.
Also read this [3]. Search in the text for Raisuli and Raisuni. That may be a reliable source... or may not... define me a reliable source in the internet or other than that, then I'll try to find it. Sabertooth 01:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


[4] So I guess they almost always put the alternative name because of Roosevelt's 'Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!' and the film about the bandit.

[5] Here it mentions [Raisuni may be better known to. Anglophone readers as Raisuli (ed.).] These are all hints that his name is mistakenly known as Raisuli in America by the causes mentioned above. Some Spanish sources cite this Known by English as Raisuli but his name is registered as Raisuni << I lost the site, so don't ask. Sabertooth 01:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Right, what you have so far are hints that "Raisuli" is not strictly correct, from the fact that "Raisuni' is preferred in the online Britannica, and is used exclusively in the naval academy thesis. What's really needed is some reliable source directly addressing which is the right form. Then the question would become which form should be given priority in Wikipedia (WP), "Raisuli" as the far better known form, or "Raisuni" as the technically correct, native-tongue form (assuming that it is, which I am inclined to believe, by the way). I'm not sure, off hand, how WP normally handles such cases. I do know that many proper names have, by historical accident, gotten English forms that are not strictly correct, and are in WP and most encyclopedias under the familiar but "wrong" form: for example, "Ottoman" as against the technically correct "Osmanli". "Raisuli" perhaps should win out in the article-title, on that basis, with the correct from being noted somewhere in the body of the article.
As far as I can make out, "er" (in "er Raisu_i) is just a mistake, perhaps originating here]. I feel sure that "er" is just a mistake for "el". Can we at least agree to use, for the title, "el-Raisu_i", or "al-Raisu_i"? -- Lonewolf BC 02:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, my final real-life-source is there's no Raisuli family name in Morocco. There's only Raisuni. About the article, let it like it is now, by the correct family name, and put (Known as Raisuli for anglophones) Sabertooth 01:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but that is original research and not verifiable by other editors, so editing on that basis is disallowed. (It also does not necessarily follow that "Raisuli" is wrong.)
-- Lonewolf BC 02:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

About "er", I'll explain it to you. "Al" has almost the same meaning as "The" in English. Some words in Arabic don't pronounce the last "L" in "AL", instead, it doubles the first letter in the certain word. For example: Al-shamso (The sun) is pronounced Ash-shamso. So for Raisuni, is pronounced Ar-Raisuni, even if it's written Al-Raisuni in Arabic. & why it's "er" not "ar", it's because that's how it's pronounced in Moroccan Arabic. Most like with the Abd el-Krim article, they pronounce his name as Krim and not Karim. I hope that clears things up. -- Sabertooth 11:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Interesting about "er". The article ought use the proper written form, though. -- Lonewolf BC 16:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

By WP:COMMONNAME, the title of the article ought be simply "Raisuli". It could then open with his right name (whatever that is, but I surmise that it uses "Raisuni", as you say ), and have something like "best known as the Raisuli, among English-speakers", near the beginning. -- Lonewolf BC 16:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jebala

Your help is needed. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 15:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proofreading of Bigg (rapper)

Hi !

I have participated in this translation :

Completed Translation ----- (fr) Bigg → (en) Bigg (rapper) ---- (more info)
 

and I need a proofreader for this translation project to verify article's grammar, orthography and writing style (because my English level is just average). So, when I saw that you're interested in Hip Hop and that that you have an excellent level of both English and French, I decided to ask you to proofread this article about Bigg, the famous Moroccan rapper.
I hope that you'll accept --Spy-jones 01:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


Nice, dude! I've checked the article & edited it a bit. I've also moved Moroccan rap to Moroccan hip hop. I'll try to work on both articles. Sabertooth 13:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks ! I saw that you've corrected my mistakes as well as possible. For the article Moroccan hip hop, please don't translate it from French now, because it's a poor-quality article. I'll work on the article in French to make it more structured and truthful. Anyway, I'll keep you informed about that. Take care Spy-jones 16:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:K9999KOF2003.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:K9999KOF2003.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG 11:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:TerryBogardKOF2003.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:TerryBogardKOF2003.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG 11:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Wanna join?

You have been invited to join the WikiProject Africa, a collaborative effort focused on improving Wikipedia's coverage of Africa. If you'd like to join, just add your name to the member list. Thanks for reading!

Wanted to know if you were interested, since you are from Africa. We need members and it would be nice to have more African users contribute to the project. So, what do you say?Mattkenn3 20:07, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish English

Wikipedia:WikiProject Scotland wants to use {{User en-sc}} for Scottish English, and I have suggested they follow ISO code to use {{User en-gb-sct}} instead and allow en-sc instead for Seychellois English, per the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 having "sc" Seychelles and ISO 3166-1:GB#BS-only codes having "gb-sct" as Scotland, just like ISO 3166-1:US having "us-ca" for California and {{User en-us-ca}} for California English. Could you please take a look at Wikipedia:User categories for discussion#Scottish English and give your thoughts? Thanks!

Also, I took a look at your userpage. We're both native speakers of Arabic, we both speak English, we both speak some Spanish, and we both love anime and are members of the Videogame WikiProject. Wow! Taric25 16:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Orochi Yashiro.png

Thanks for uploading Image:Orochi Yashiro.png. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 10:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:AngelKOF2002.png

Thanks for uploading Image:AngelKOF2002.png. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it may be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 05:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)