Talk:Sabre (fencing)

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[edit] New equipement?

Could somebody add a bit to the article about the new masks? Sabre is the only weapon to use the masks with the "window". Notes on controversy, effect on target area, regulation, potential use of this mask in other weapons, etc. would be nice. So would a picture :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.213.2 (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

The other weapons use visors, too. Sabre is the only one where the target area is potentially compromised by it, and therefore the only one where a real controversy has arisen. I agree that there should probably be some information about this, but as I am no sabreur, I fancy I am not the one to add it (although I might, eventually, if no one else does)PRB (talk) 15:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flunge Picture

The picture in the technique section is not actually a flunge. Please remove it.En Marchant 15:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Does this article need a picture of a flunge, because I have a fairly decent one from one of my club's practices. It was taken right in the middle of the action, but I'm not gonna add it if its just gonna get removed shortly after. CecilTyme (talk) 00:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citation Needed

Why on earth is the Angelo citation marked as citation needed? Why would a citation need a citation? I mean, come on people, it's a citation! Therefore, by definition, it doesn't need a citation! People need to let the horse / target area argument die. In the same source there are demonstrations of sabre parries to protect the legs and horse while on horseback. Now you here people talking about how the fleche is prevented because you can't cross your legs on the horse, when this rule was made up to eliminate the "fence!" followed by simultaneous fleches problem which plagued the sport even more post-electric in our lifetimes!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.207.17.235 (talk) 19:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vjasper's post

I am confident that this page can be expanded quite a bit. If anyone is willing to help I'd gladly appreciate it. Currently the only thing that I can really think of to do is adding detailed section on right-of-way.Vjasper 20:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 70.50.53.43

Please stop accusing User:Vjasper of vandalism. In addition, your unexplained removal of content from this article could be construed as vandalism. See WP:POINT. Thank you. Isopropyl 18:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Problem with the Valid Target picture

The valid target picture appears to include the hand. Would anyone like to remedy this? Vjasper 19:42, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of a sabre

Does anybody have a picture of a sabre that could be used to illustrate the sabre blade, bell guard and handle? The "The Sword" paragraph would work better with such. Iotha 22:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I suppose I could just take a picture of one of mine, if we can't find anything else. Does a gold Y-Section blade on a used Uhlmann guard sound good? I'll take a picture sometime tomorrow. Vjasper 05:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good. I took a picture of a sabre that was lying around my fencing club (I just added it), however my picture doesn't really display the Y-shape of the blade or the button, perhaps you should focus on that? Iotha 01:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sabre picture

The handle is labeled "French grip," but I'm pretty sure this is wrong. The sabre grip is quite different from a French...

Also, there's no button on the tip of a sabre. Enelson (talk) 19:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
        Actually, there is a button. Not one like on foil, but the blade is bent back and folded onto itself, thus creating a little 'loop', making the weapon safer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.164.254.131 (talk) 18:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blade stiffness

This should be updated. Since the blades were stiffened in 2000, they are technically stiffer than epee blades. If you put one on a gabarit, they are allowed less deflection.

[edit] The Principle of Sabre

"Sabre, unlike epee or foil is about distance, timing, and bladework." It says in the article. So in Foil and Epee you don't care about distance, timing and bladework?:)

[edit] New Rules

I added the new rules about the cross-over backwards. I heard this at a fencing tournament, and I have no written source for it. Could someone please find a written source about the new rules, also about the one which sais that coming forwared *without* an extended arm while your opponent doesn't make a simultaneous attack constitutes an attack? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.164.254.131 (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)