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[edit] Genre?

Are they really Britpop, because Britpop is a type of alternative rock and they are definitely not alternative. DavidJJJ 07:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

d00d s club 7 is SOOOOOO alternative! u r a idiot. If u listened to s club 7 every day like I do, u would know that they have alternative influencez.
Are you for real? If you are being sarcastic, good for you. If you're not, please learn to spell before voicing your opinions.141.211.173.132 04:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the above. I just hope you can speak better english than you can write.

Why would something called "Britpop" be a kind of alternative music? That makes no sense. Whenever I hear Britpop, I think British pop music, not alternative rock. Wouldn't it make more sense to call that Britrock or something? Britpop conjurs up different images. Socalledboothy 17:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC) WTF they ARE POP! POP. POP POP POP!

Britpop by definition is bands such as oasis, blur etc, bands of the early 1990's which signalled the revival of the british pop scene. S club, however good, are of no such class to be defined as britpop, and their style of music isn't britpop. The top poster is correct, britpop is alterntive music. look it up if you will and s club are definately just POP!

Be polite... yo...didn't yous all read the "talk page guidlines"? BE POLITE... And who ever wrote "I just hope you can speak better english than you can write" should worry about their own writing before they worry about anybody else's. S club cannot in anyway be considered alternative since they were a "manufactured" POP band. 'nuf said.

No they shouldnt, that was fair comment. Nit picking whinging fool.

[edit] NPOV.

Here's a few reasons why I added the NPOV template:

"'Never Had a Dream Come True' marked a more mature direction for the group which retained their pop sensibilities whilst broadening their appeal to a more adult audience. However, it was their next single which really proved to their breakthrough in this respect. "Don't Stop Movin'" was a classy dance/pop song..."

"...it included a number of other very-strong tracks..."

"In many ways, S Club were an anachronism by 2003, with the musical landscape having shifted away from such overtly-'manufactured' groups towards a more 'organic' presentation with groups being presented as writing their own songs and playing their own instruments. Nonetheless, their relatively-long career (for this genre) is noteworthy. Unlike many 'pop' groups, they did not rely on cover versions to generate hit singles: "Natural" was the closest they came to releasing a cover version as a single, as this song was based on a French song which in turn had sampled Gabriel Faure's "Pavane." - Rocket000 06:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] REACH

This song is featured in the USA Craftmatic 2 comemrcial. I recognized it almost instantly even though it was entirelyu intsrumental.09:07, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for semi-protection

We've had a long wave of vandalism since the Big Brother race row.. so I've requested the page for semi-protection. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 17:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Sclub7-7(original).jpg

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[edit] opening paragraph

changing it from

S Club were a BRIT Award-winning English pop group...

to

S Club (formerly known as S Club 7) were a BRIT Award-winning English pop group...

Any qualms discuss. seven+one 20:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Improving the article

I've made a good start adding sources and citing various statements, as well as making a couple of stylistic changes here and there. I think the way to go next will be to improve the History and split it up into "Eras" as many other music articles have done. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 14:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I was bold and took the step and did appropriate rewrites. I am completely aware that I goofed up the citations and put them before, instead of after, the punctuation.. but I'll come back to that another time. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 20:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comeback

S Club 7 is preparing a comeback: http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/25092007/364/s-club-7-reunite.html&e=l_news_dm

Von „http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:S_Club_7“

1) This is not a forum 2) They're not preparing a comeback. Rachel's comments were taken out of context. That article doesn't even state they're preparing a comeback. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 14:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA nomination review

After a review of the article, I've spotted a number of issues:

  • First of all, the lead should summarise the article adequately. One sentence is not enough; try to summarise their history, musical style and so on.
  • In the interest of broadness, there should be a Musical style section (see Pixies, Wilco and other band FAs for a good example). Plenty has been written about S Club, so it shouldn't be too hard to write such a section.
  • How were the members recruited? This is a fairly important topic in any band article.
  • "however certain suggestions have been" doesn't make sense. I'd suggest rephrasing the sentence.
  • "Another theory is that the name was selected as the letter S is the 19th letter in the alphabet, representing 19 Entertainment." This needs a citation, otherwise it's essentially original research.
  • After this: "The show" doesn't follow, as the last time it was mentioned was several sentences ago.
  • Most of the first paragraph is about Miami 7, rather than the band itself. I suggested moving this to a separate article.
  • "2xPlatinum". Double platinum reads better; I think this is the case throughout the article.
  • Who is "Stargate?". It may be worth clarifying that to the reader.
  • In the LA 7/7 section, the first paragraph is huge, and, as a result, you may struggle to keep the reader's attention. I recommend splitting the paragraph.
  • In the Hollywood 7/Sunshine section, "However, it was their next single which really proved to their breakthrough in this respect" reads like original research to me. Who said this? Also, "which owed more than a little for its style" isn't written formally.
  • In general, there's too much information on single positions and TV shows (which are only tangentially related to the band in many respects), and not enough on the band itself. There's also too many short paragraphs that needs expansion or merging.
  • "We could decide to split after the tour if we wanted to." needs a direct citation.
  • What were the reasons behind splitting up? Surely a newspaper of the day would cover that?
  • The "S Club Juniors / S Club 8" doesn't really deserve another section; why not mention in the history section?
  • The Post-S Club section should be written as prose, rather than presented as a list. Take a look at other band articles for inspiration.
  • There's a {{fact}} tag in the Post-S Club section which should be addressed as soon as possible.
  • A citation is required for the sentence about Jo to meet WP:BLP, "where it was alleged that she along with fellow contestants Jade Goody and Danielle Lloyd had racially bullied another contestant, causing a huge controversy."
  • There's a huge number of fan sites in the External links section; virtually all of them should be removed, as they don't meet WP:EL.
  • Image:HannahPaul kiss.jpg really needs a more substanative fair use rationale. (You can use the template to help). Why is it irreplacable?

For the reasons above, I am putting this article on hold to allow you to address these issues. The hold will expire on 20 October, so if you feel you have addressed the comments above before then, let me know on my talk page. CloudNine 10:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'll get right onto those. :) - ǀ Mikay ǀ 09:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Calling it a very, very long day. Will address the last few during the week. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 19:56, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
(Sorry for the lateness of this rereview). I believe you've addressed all the issues I've raised; I'm impressed! Therefore I'm passing this as a good article. I'll add comments on how to improve this further later. CloudNine 14:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much. :) I look forward to your comments and going on to improve the article further. As you can probably tell, I'm extremely passionate about the subject. :) - ǀ Mikay ǀ 15:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)