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[edit] Great coaches of SLB
Strangely, some of the most successfull and famous SLB coaches were missing:
- Cosme Damião - 8 championships
- Janos Biri - 3 championships, 3 cups
- Otto Glória - 4 championships + 5 cups
- Lajos Czeizler - Only two titles with SLB, but an industry all time great
- Jimmy Hagan - 3+1 in four years
- Tomislav Ivic - 0 titles, but an industry all time great
Oalexander-En 16:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nicknames
The club has two nicknames: one complimentary, one not. They're both explained in the article — why should one be omitted from the infobox? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
There has been vandalism in this page. Please take care.
I would suggest putting this page under a semi-protection policy because the one who vandalized this page isn't a registered member. --Thorius Maximus 18:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] SL Benfica redirect
SL Benfica is a disambig between this article and SL Benfica (basketball). Shouldn't it redirect here (as by far the most common use) and a link to a disambiguation page, such as SL Benfica (disambigation) added to the top of this page? -- Chuq 01:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Controversial Salazar era
Suikilla quais são so factos se faz favor e comentários de invejosos de outros clubes que inventam não conta. Tens que apresentar os factos que comprovam isso e comentários do Sousa Tavares ou do Lima na A bola não contam.Se era um clube do Salazar porque que o Cruijff conhecido pelos seus ideais participou na festa do Coluna e não recusou como fez no mundial de 78 devido à Argentina fascista da altura. Não pode por esse texto baseando em ódio pelo clube de alguns que inventaram esses rumores , rumores esses que mais de metade de Sportinguistas e Portistas não acreditam mesmo influenciados por facciosos.Enquanto pores esse texto eu continuarei a apagá-lo.
LOL
Completely opinionated.
There were several different portuguese football leaders during the Estado Novo regime:
- FC Porto - Winner of the very first I Liga.
- Benfica - Winner of the following three I Liga. During the 1940´s the club was in crisis.
- Sporting - Leader of the portuguese football until 1955.
- Belenenses - Winner of one portuguese championship, with a great team in the 1940s and 1950s. Several times portuguese cup finnalists.
- Benfica - Started dominating the portuguese football after Otto Gloria´s revolution (he brought profissionalism to the club), after 1955. So, Salazar helped Benfica to achieved 5 times during the 1960s the Uefa Champions Cup, with a rather weak team.
What a laugh.
Beetween 1974 and 1994, twenty years after the revolution, Benfica won 10 times the national championship and FC Porto only 8 times. Were´s the controversy now ?
Facts what facts, since when rumours and lies fruit of envy are facts. For example there are are rumours of Porto being involved in bribery and in a system to difficult Sporting and Benfica but i don't put that in the Porto page why because its a rumour and until its proved it cannot be considered a true fact.
Eusebio was abducted, did you know he was a minor and Sporting to hire him LEGALLY was supposed to talk with the mother to have her permission and Benfica was the only team to do that.
Team of Salazar, yes Salazar supports a team with members of freedom movements like Rui Minguas (athletism and known supporter of Angola independecy ) Coluna (member of Frelimo) and members of commnunist party in the management.That's why benfica is the club most hated by communists, wait the minute is the most popular team of the communists because was the only club to permit menbers of both communist party and fascist party in the management unlike the other teams who only accept the "clean" and respected members of the fascist.You want facts see how many members of the Communist party or public opposers of Salazar where also members of the Benfica management like José Magalhães Godinho or Manuel da Conceição Afonso.
PIDE in games to difficult the other teams, so thats why Salgueiros made a incredible game of 4-5 ith Benfica in the 60 or thats why there was a game beetween Benfica and Setubal for the portuguese cup in the day after of the champions cup because PIDE and Salazar thought that Benfica could play with the youth team while the others were returning from Berna.
Calabote, all the newspapers in the day after criticize the time lost made by CUF players and Porto according with the radio and newspapers had 2 very doubtfull penalties and Torrensse saw two players out of the game for unknown reasons but that no one talks they simple talk of the extra 10 minutes of a game that started 6 minutes after time in Benfica match.
Yes Salazar control Europe as well thats why Benfica is considered the team of 60 by UEFA because the 5 finals were all achieved with PIDE help.
Why you don't talk that several members of Sporting and Porto management were fascists suppoorters and important members of the governement while Benfica, guess this, was hated by fascists for being very popular beetween communists and they even changed the popular name Benfica was known vermelhos (REDS) for encarnados and the official song "Avante benfica" because sounded communist.
- I highly recommend you guys read this (sorry, it's in portuguese). distorter truth Ordep 03:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] These are the facts
Pouca treta. Enquanto retirarem o texto que traduz a verdade eu continuarei a po-lo. LOL Acho piada que negem tais factos de centralizacao, e ainda acho mais piada, que digam que na altura quem roubava era o Porto. Ora se era o Porto que roubava, entao nao faz sentido que fosse sempre o Benfica e o Spoting a ganhar, se o Salazar odiava o benfica por ser contra o regime, um homem que instaurou censura previa e prendia pessoas por palvras, deixava uma equipa comunista ganhar popularidade, alem disso, nao interessa que o benfica tenha ganho muitos campeonatos tambem depois do Estado Novo ate porque nao e que o benfica tenha sido desmantelado depois do estado novo, a boa equipa que foi construida na era salazarista continuou a jogar, a superioridade teoarica e pratica e a centralizacao construida nos anos de Estado Novo continuou, obviamente perdendo forcas ao longo que o tempo passou.Ridiculo como a vossa mente funciona. Aceitem os factos, ja passou. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Suikilla (talk • contribs) 02:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC).
O arauto da verdade, é que que és. Obrigado por nos ilucidares, agora arranja mais alguma coisa para te manter ocupado, ok?
Ok pronto o salazar vendo que o Benfica estava a conquistar troféus europeus e que era a equipa mais popular de norte a sul resolveu usar o Benfica como arma de propaganda, para mal dos rivais.Temos todos telhados de vidro mas és um bocado hipócrita por exemplo em relação a Calabote, quem conquistou o título foi o Benfica ou foi Porto, se bem me lembro está escrito que foi o porto por isso o roubo não existe pois vocês tem o título e já agora lutas tanto pela verdade e esqueces-te dos títulos ganhos pelo Porto com os casos calheiros, quinhetinhos,etc.Se queres lutar por ambas as verdades ok tudo bem agora se fores um pretencioso dizendo que o benfica e salazar isto e aquilo e Porto desde Pinto da Costa é inocente e perfeitinho serás criticado pelo teu facciosismo.A minha critica é o porquê de 2 pesos e 2 medidas.O Benfica pela popularidade e pela propaganda, equipa com muitos africanos e num período de guerra colonial o ideal para promover a relação entre as colónias, viu o seu plantel protegido contra saídas e facilidade em contratar jogadores, quanto à da PIDE é mentira e facilidade nos jogos não acredito o Benfica na década de 60 formou planteis extremamente fortes que resultou da protecção referida, e o Porto nestes últimos 25 anos foi claramente beneficiado na arbitragem com os casos calheiros, quinhetinhos, etc. Se criticas ambas as casas tudo bem se vens criticar a casa dos outros quando a tua também tem telhados de vidro faz favor de estar calado.Já agora aprende inglês porque não vi aqui escrito que o Benfica era clube comunista mas sim popular entre os comunistas por aceitar os seus membros nas assembleias e até como membros da direcção coisa que os outros clubes, excepção feita a clubes com antecedentes operários, não faziam.
[edit] Aprende ingles?
Aprende ingles? Desculpa lá ó inteligente, nao sabia que além de seres o dono da verdade, eras professor de ingles. Vai tu aprender ingles porque eu nao te vi a escrever nada, se calhar nao sabes.MAs isso deixa-me feliz de certa forma porque esse é o discurso do nervoso sem argumentos. Significa que estás embrulhado em nervosismo.
Claro, os casos quinhentino, calheiros e ETC, essas tentativas judiciais falhadas por uma maioria de quilhar um clube em ascendencia ao vosso patamar, claro, mais um candidato aos titulos, e desta vez um serio, a ganhar titulos a uma velociade estonteante, merece um arranjo. O mais engracado, é que telhados de vidro temos apenas nós, porque voces, nunca foram investigados. O benfica nunca armou cabalas, pois, quem era suposto investigr essas cabalas estava na propria cabala, e agora? agora já é tarde para investigar, além disso, os arguidos ja devem estar todos nos 80 ou mortos. Vê agora se ha alguma mentira em relaccao ao vosso ultimo titulo, seu cao faccioso. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Suikilla (talk • contribs) 02:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC).
Eu sei que é díficil aceitar uma verdade dessas, porque também me custa admitir certos casos esquesitos em ralacao ao meu clube. Mas voces que roubavam estupidamente e escandalosamente inevntam historias ridiculas para proteger o clube, chegando ao cumulo de dizerem que nós é que roubávamos,FDS!!! Nós roubávamos e sacamos 6 titulos em 41 anos. Isto é onde chega a estupidez facciosa. Um clube oprimido durante a sua historia, agora que vence, nao podem gozar as vitorias em paz, sem ver uns gulosos que nao aceitam nao ser os melhores. E se roubamos, o que nao e impossivel,é logico que foi porque era impossivel contornar as vossas influencias de outra forma, voces é que nos ensinaram a ser campeoes. Voces e que mostraram que para ser os melhores, é preciso comprar árbitros.
Acho que és tu que estás nervoso, o tipo pode não saber inglês ou coisa assim mas chamar-lhe cão faccioso porque te pergunta o porquê de 2 pesos e 2 medidas.Não vivi na década de 60 não posso por isso saber o que se passou, se é verdade então prontos porque não vale a pena negar e não é por isso que vou deixar de apoiar o Benfica e tu provalvemente o mesmo com o Porto se for provado corrupção.Para mim tanto os 3 grandes tiveram os seu beneficios, os seus períodos de influência dominante, não se pode negar isso porque infelizmente esse é o mal do futebol português e o outro mal que parece o teu pelo menos no último comentário é que para os adeptos há sempre um mais culpado que outro.Houve roubo, houve tráfico de influências, isso tudo é futebol português e nunca vai mudar porque num período foi o Benfica, noutro o Sporting e ultimamente Porto são os ciclos do futebol português.
Já agora peço desculpa não vi que o segundo comentário era teu.Só uma nota faz como eu para mim o futebol português morreu há muito e só sigo as ligas estrangeiras e selecção, quanto ao último campeonato vencido, de todos os camepoantos vencidos por Benfica,Porto, Sporting, Belenenses e Boavista os que foram vencidos sem influências contam-se pelos dedos de uma mão, vá lá talvez precisa-se de uma segunda.Que campeonato português seria se não fosse vencido sem troca de galhardetes na secretaria.
eu concordo com o suikilla, como é que, sendo o Porto a roubar, como tentam fazer parecer ao falar dos jogadores expulsos do torreense, apenas ganha 6 campeonatos em 41 anos? Está claro aqui que há uma centralizacao, aliás, porque se formos a ver por essas ligas fora em que o futebol é levado a serio, sao raras as vezes em que os campeoes nao passam de tres, especialmente no inicio do futebol, në?
[edit] Porque?
Eh pá, que apaguem, o meu relato da verdade em relaccao á corrupcao, que parece-me mais que obvia, ainda compreendo, além de sempre que me lembrar de cá vir volto a pô-la mas porque é que apagam este texto sobre o vosso ultimo campeonato? Vao-me dizer que é mentira ou afinal é verdade que voces gostam de esconder factos nao tao positivos?
His counter-attacking strategies paid off although this was the championship where the champion had the least points since the 3 points per victory system, wich translates the poor preformances of the top teams, with benfica winning in the final games with nearly a penalty per game, and once with a team abdicating playing at home to play 300 km away from their home for profit reasons, their president was later sporting director of Benfica. On the last game wich a draw would give them a victory, Benfica started to win early with a contested penalty converted by Simao, the game ended with a draw and benfica was champion after many efforts.
Será que estou enganado e nada disto aconteceu? Será que ando a comer os cogumelos errados? Ou será que ser benfiquista é ter uma historia moldada ao seu gosto? (podiam adoptar esta letra) Do que eu sei, eu nao gosto de cogumelos. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Suikilla (talk • contribs) 02:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC).
Cada qual e livre para ter as suas opiniões e convicções, acreditando na teoria da conspiração que mais lhe agrada. Agora tentar impor essas ideias como verdades numa enciclopédia não é correcto. Se queres debater esses temas, existem fóruns próprios para o efeito, o que não é este o caso. Não sei se és portista ou não, mas como exemplo, na página do FC Porto não vês comentários a factos, repito factos, relativos às investigações a decorrer, às escutas divulgadas, aos comportamentos intimidativos da claque, nomeadamente agressões ao treinador, se não te lembras e apenas para exemplificar, e muitas mais coisas que poderiam estar lá. Se calhar, para o efeito de uma enciclopédia, que se quer livre, e pelo menos para já uma vez que não há condenações, a ausência destes comentários pelo menos pode afastar as clubites, porque todos têm algo que se lhes aponte, não há inocentes nem santos, ganhando assim a objectividade. Não acredito que tenhas idade para teres vivido na época dos casos de que tanto falas e portanto não tens conhecimento de causa da realidade dessa altura. A mim parece-me que estás a tentar encontrar "desculpas" para qualquer coisa e se estas tuas "verdades" são o melhor que consegues arranjar, então podemos garantidamente dizer que o SLB nos últimos 50 anos e um clube de bons rapazes...cumprimentos. comment was added by xab (talk • contribs) 11:22, 26 April 2007
Xab, admito que tens razoes em algumas coisas, mas essas palavras vao contra a maioria das palavra dos benfiquistas onde quer que seja, inclusive, eu vim a fazer estas actualizacoes devido a presenca de teorias escritas por ai. E como ja disse, em relaccao a maioria do que disse, pode-se dar a margem de duvida, mas quanto a ao seguinte:
His counter-attacking strategies paid off although this was the championship where the champion had the least points since the 3 points per victory system, wich translates the poor preformances of the top teams, with benfica winning in the final games with nearly a penalty per game, and once with a team abdicating playing at home to play 300 km away from their home for profit reasons, their president was later sporting director of Benfica. On the last game wich a draw would give them a victory, Benfica started to win early with a contested penalty converted by Simao, the game ended with a draw and benfica was champion after many efforts.
Sao factos, factos meu amigo. Eu vi tu viste e toda a gente viu. E ninguem esta a dizer que o benfica n mercecia ganha, que na minha opiniao nao merecia, nem ele nem nenhum dos 3, mas que isto aconteceu, aconteceu, por isso com licensa.
licenca, peco perdao
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- É preciso ser muito fanático para colocar esse vomitado de invenções como factos. The crap posted above is a complete invention of a very deranged mind, afraid that his club (against which there are more and more proofs that it bougth referees, adversaries and judges during the last 30 years) will be finally convicted for all the corruption, bribery, intimidation and calls to violence that it used to "win" championships these 25 years. E inventes a porcaria que inventares, como esse parágrafo delirante, não vais fazer esquecer quem é o verdadeiro beneficiado das arbitragens e dos auto-golos (grande helton) estes 25 anos.195.234.134.115 14:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
"...with benfica winning in the final games with nearly a penalty per game..." Este gajo deve estar a gozar não??? Quantos penalties teve o Benfica nesse ano? 20? 15? 10? Não... mais ou menos 5! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.158.133 (talk) 18:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Detailed history statistics
Does anyone know a site with the detailed statistics of Benfica history. Something like this? [1]
I have no problem doing the hard work. Ordep 03:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Important or famous players in Benfica's history
There are some players in this list, that are neither important or famous at least for Benfica. Some of them only played 20 or so matches in only one season. Ordep 04:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. And i found somewhat strange a column for the 1990´s and only a column for the 1900-50 period. I think it should be divided into decades (1900-2007). --Eagle Fly Free SLB 21:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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- I based that in some other site clubs i saw, and even with only one column from 1900 to 1950 there isn't any player.
- If you know players from that era, please add them. Ordep 21:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Manuel Bento probably the best GK of Portugal? ahahahahaha fucking ridiculous!!
[edit] Greatest ever team
Never saw this before... Tahar, Nuno Gomes ??? I seriously doubt it. --Eagle Fly Free SLB 00:39, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
This section is unsourced. It needs sourcing about supposed "voting by supporters" and certainly the wording of "best ever" does not follow WP:NPOV Alexf(t/c) 17:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Who did the field positions ??? Rogério (is "Pipi" not "Pipis" and this is a nickname, not his name on the field), played in the left-side, Nené is placed as winger (only in the beginning of his career in the club he was on that position), Aldair in the midfield , Veloso as a central defender (or is it a libero ?! , he only played as a central defender a few times), H. Coelho on the right side... this is completely wrong... --Eagle Fly Free SLB 00:32, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- Then I vote for deleting the section. It seems like not NPOV anyway. -- Alexf(t/c) 00:42, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- Me too. --Eagle Fly Free SLB 01:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Current Squad
Freddy Adu has not finalized his contract negotiations and therefore should not be included as an acquisition, let alone a member of the 2007 squad. While I am aware that he is to fly to Lisbon in order to make his final decision, there is no credible source stating that such a decision has been made yet. Remove him, please.
- Done. SHould be inserted as a new player when/if he signs and there is confirmation from reliable sources. -- Alexf(t/c) 11:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Atenção:
Rui Nereu já não é jogador do Benfica. http://futebolar.portugalmail.pt/artigo/20070605/academica-rui-nereu-assina-por-tres-anos
Por Vsnunes —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsnunes (talk • contribs) 18:56, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] S.C. Benfica Rabo de Peixe
What ?? --Eagle Fly Free SLB 18:23, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gilles removed
Gilles was removed because Fernando Santos, last manager, had decided to loan him to Estrela da Amadora F.C. Gilles was integrated to squad yesterday because António Camacho, the new manager, decided to give him a chance to show his value, and to fill the space left by Manuel Fernandes —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aritajustino (talk • contribs) 20:07, August 23, 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Deleting sports
Benfica as no relevance in rugby ?? lol, the oldest portuguese club, winner of an important international trophy... Skating ? no important ? Benfica was national champion almost 40 years in a row... swimming ?? omg... --Eagle Fly Free SLB 01:33, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- It's morelike.., does rughy have importance for benfica? But i must say i have few knowledge of these sports in Benfica. So if i'm wrong please do correct me. But it should have some real information not like some sports that were there. Like gymnastic had only this info, "Benfica has a gymnastics department". This is no useful information. Ordep 02:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- The article should have every active sports department of Benfica. It doesn't matters if the section is a stub or not. If, in your opinion, you think it is a stub, you must add more content to the section, but it would be more accurate to leave it in the article than delete the information. Miguelzinho 11:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- In my opinion there are some departments that don't have great importance in the club's history. I don't think we should put every active department, just because it's active. For what i have seen in other club's sites, they don't account for every department.
- In another point, in my opinion the biggest gap of this article is the club's history (http://www.slbenfica.pt/Clube/Historia/Fundacao/fundacao.asp). Other, Telma Monteiro was hired 1 month ago, and already is a Notable Figure of Benfica? Not! Only recent i have read this, Wikipedia:Recentism. Ordep 12:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- The article should have every active sports department of Benfica. It doesn't matters if the section is a stub or not. If, in your opinion, you think it is a stub, you must add more content to the section, but it would be more accurate to leave it in the article than delete the information. Miguelzinho 11:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
does rugby have importance for benfica? - yes, it does, Benfica made a sport agreement with Almada for the developing of Rugby. Otherwise, Benfica has a Rugby department for 80 years... the problem is not Benfica's rugby section, but the potential of the national Rugby (so far away of the national team achievements). Surely it´s not Benfica's fault, although i can say i would prefer to see Rugby in the Stadium :) But it should have some real information - well, all the information is necessary, i don't understand why is not important to write down all Benfica's sport departments active nowadays (hence the eclecticism of the club). About Telma Monteiro: listen, Telma Monteiro just won the most important medal of Portuguese judo. It´s like Benfica hire some athlete and he or she won a gold medal at Olympic Games, one month later... in my humble opinion, that achievement makes of him or her a notable athlete of Benfica. Everything above was written by Eagle Fly Free SLB user, unfortunately i don´t have my Wikipedia password on this computer (this is not my own pc). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.63.94.237 (talk) 20:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- So, who's going to add all that active sports departments? Miguelzinho 18:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- long-term historical perspective - don´t worry about this (Recentism), i have a good idea of Benfica's History. I agree that the History´ section it´s weak, because it is only written from the football perspective. About the active sports departments, i can add them, slowly ;) Do you think it´s interesting to write a small football section in the sports section, then creating another article with the squad ? because, in my opinion, although the football it´s "the most important" sport of the club, Benfica article should have a general view, avoiding any particular item (stadium section with main article link, History section with main article link, every sports section with main links, etc...). What do you think about this ?? --Eagle Fly Free SLB 18:28, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- It is a difficult decision. Football is by far the most popular sport in the club and most people would search this article in order to read about the men's football team. But I agree that Sport Lisboa e Benfica - Futebol S.A.D. is the proper place to have the encyclopedic article of Benfica's football. Miguelzinho 23:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] List of notable football players of Benfica's history
How many seasons or games should a player have played for Benfica, to deserve being on the list? There are too many players in recent years who have done nothing for the club. There can and will be some exceptions, but now there is just too much. Ordep 16:10, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- You are right. There are too many players in the list, some of them would be better suited for a list of Benfica's failed players. Miguelzinho 18:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with you. Maybe there should be two different pages: one for the "notable players" other for the "former players" (those who played for Benfica, but can´t be considered "notable"). --Eagle Fly Free SLB 18:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I still wonder if it would be more simple to build a list of "legends" on the Benfica's football article and move the "former players" to the Category "Benfica football players". Miguelzinho 23:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with you. Maybe there should be two different pages: one for the "notable players" other for the "former players" (those who played for Benfica, but can´t be considered "notable"). --Eagle Fly Free SLB 18:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] About the Portuguese Cup
I already state my opinion on the Cup of Portugal' discussion page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cup_of_Portugal). Benfica didn´t won 27 Portuguese Cups, but 24 Portuguese Cups and 3 National Championships. Yes, they were both knock-out competitions. But they were also different competitions, with different rules. So, i think this should be changed. --Eagle Fly Free SLB 14:37, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Updated History
I do not endorse many things written in the History section:
By now, football was clearly the club's most important sport (1940's) - Football was always the most important sport in the club, since the very beginning. That is why in 1908 the club maintained the Sport Lisboa's foundation date.
The Latin Cup was then seen as one of Europe's most prestigious European Cups in a time when UEFA had yet to launch its unified European Cups. - The Latin Cup was the most prestigious european cup, in the beginning of the 1950's. In the past, the Mitropa Cup was the most important, but like the second world war destroyed so much, the Mitropa Cup lost his power after the war. UEFA did not exist when the Latin Cup was created ! UEFA was founded in 15 June 1954, and by the time, six latin cup editions already had been played.
Portuguese cup was not held in 1950 due to the Latin Cup being organised in Portugal. - Not only about this: The Latin Cup was held after the end of the 1949\50 championship. The portuguese cup not being held this season was mostly an excuse to FPF's decision to play the games of the world cup qualifying (1950) with better preparation. There were also other problems as well: You can read this clearly here: [2] --Eagle Fly Free SLB (talk) 12:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Paintball
I'm a complete newbie to wikipedia, but I thought I should point out that SLB has recently aquired[3] a tournament paintball team playing in the SPL division of the millenium series[4]. I can't find much information about it and google refuses to translate the SLB website to english, so some help would be appreciated. I expect it will take some time and some backing before the team can advance to the professional division, but every sport SLB are involved in should be mentioned somewhere on the wiki.
Vijilnz (talk) 09:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Excuse me?
"Benfica was once the most successful club in Portugal with a total of 31 Portuguese Liga, 27 Portuguese Cup, 4 SuperCup Cândido de Oliveira, 2 UEFA Champions League and 1 Latin Cup, but in the last decades its performance has been shadowed by those of F.C. Porto and Sporting Club de Portugal."
Overshadowed by F.C.Porto yes, absolutelly. But by Sporting C.P? Who wrote this absurd? Also: it still is the most sucessfull club in portugal, if the measure is total award count. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.85.124 (talk) 00:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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