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Hello, S.dedalus, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] All-Interval Tetrachord

Thank you for your authorship of the article All-Interval Tetrachord. However, it is presently so short that it meets Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion, in that it "It is a very short article providing little or no context". Have you considered adding a mention of all-interval tetrachords to the main tetrachord article, or expanding All-Interval Tetrachord to contain more context so that it is useful to readers? --tjstrf 19:50, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Yep, that should be much better. Congratulations! You've written a useful start for an article! Oh, I hope you don't mind, but since All-Interval Tetrachord doesn't seem to be a proper noun, I've moved it to the proper capitalization, All-interval tetrachord. --tjstrf 23:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adoption

Hello, S.dedalus! I see that you have expressed an interest in being adopted by an experienced editor. I accept your request, being an experienced editor myself. Whether you want to learn about wiki markup, find something to do, or just talk to somebody, I'm the one you can talk to - just leave a message on my talk page. Good luck with Wikipedia! Rockpocket 03:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi S.dedalus! I'm glad to help, feel free to drop me a line if i can help you in anyway.
With regards to editing code, you seem to have grasped the basics, which is a great way to start of course! The way i learned was by keeping Wikipedia:Cheatsheet close to hand for a while (you can read a more detailed verson at WP:EDIT. Pretty much everything you need to create and write stubs is in there.
Templates are pretty simple to use, though the tricky thing is remembering which one you want for the situation you find yourself in. Basically you can consider them shortcuts to reproduce pre-written text, but and they also contain code that allows any article with a template to be listed in a given place. So, for example, there are literally hundreds of templates that are used to generate the text that identify stubs. By adding {{ethno-activist-stub}} to the bottom of a stub like Robina Qureshi, you get the text:
"This biographical article about a minority rights activist is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it."
But it also automatically lists the article in the Category:Minority rights activist stubs. Of course, this is but one example, templates can be used as navigation tools (like Template:Animal testing advocacy), as greetings (like Template:Welcome), warnings (Template:Behave) and a multitude of other uses, most of which can be found here. My advice is to try and not overload yourself with learning too many templates. You don't really need to use any beyond stubs to begin with, and overtime you will remember the ones you use more often.
A few key things to remember:
  • You can express a template by simply typing its name encompassed by curly brackets: {{TEMPLATE NAME}}
  • Some templates require substituting to replace the code with text. To do this: {{subst:TEMPLATE NAME}}
  • Some templates allow additional customisation, e.g.{{subst:Welcome4|Rockpocket}} would reproduce a customised welcome message with a direct link to my talk page.
  • You can create your own, just follow the instructions here!
Pictures are also quite tricky to begin with. If you are interested in uploading images, please be aware of the policies regarding copyright. As a rule of thumb, unless you made the image yourself it probably is not a good idea to upload it.
If you wish to add images to articles, you can read the basics at Wikipedia:Images and learn the markup at Wikipedia:Extended image syntax. In its basic form its quite simple. You simply type:
[[Image:NAME|type|location|size|caption]]
Where the words in lower case between the pipes can be a number of different operators (Location= 'right', 'left', 'center' or 'none'). Thats the basics, anyway. I would simply recommend experimenting, either in the sandbox, or using the preview function (do not experiment in article namespace though!) If you have specific questions or queries, do not be afraid to ask. I'll keep and eye on your contributions and, if i can make any pointers, i will do. Good luck!! Rockpocket 09:14, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] DIV and Watchlist

Hi! You are doing great work so far, S.dedalus, keep it up.

So you asked about the <div> </div> markup. Well that is basically a HTML command that defines a division (or section) in a page. It can be used to align text anywhere on the page (depending on the associated parameter you choose). A subset of HTML elements are currently permitted in WP. You can read about them here, including some basic examples. If you wish to learn more complex uses (like for example, its use in the notice above this message), then your best bet will be to read some HTML tutorials (like here for example).

Your watchlist is one of the most useful tools in wikipedia (in my opinion). If (at the top of the page after you log in) you click on my preferences then the editing tab. You will notice a checkbox for: Add pages I create to my watchlist and Add pages I edit to my watchlist. I check both. Now whenever I edit or create a page it will be automatically added to my watchlist. The watchlist then lists the most recent edit (including the editor who made it, the date, time and edit summary) for ever single article I have ever edited, allowing me to keep track of changes to them. This differs to my contributions page, which lists all of my edits (but no-one elses). If you check those boxes, when you are editing a page you will now notice that there is an automatically checked box directly above the save page - show preview - show changes buttons that says watch this page. You can deselect this at anytime and said article will be removed from your watchlist. Alternatively you can leave the boxes unchecked in your preferences and use the box in the editing page to opt in to articles of your choice. Either way, the watchlist allows you to keep better track the articles you have an interest in (and the associated talkpages which are added automatically when the article is). Rockpocket 09:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Humanities desk post

About your comment "I guess I'd better stop drooling then!": don't worry, it caused no confusion. It was actually quite funny! --Bowlhover 03:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stopping by

Hi S.dedalus. I thought i would stop by to say 'hello' and see how you are doing. I've been checking out your contributions and you appear to be well into the swing of things, which is great, of course. Moreover, you now seem to be pretty adept in the ways of Wikipedia. While I am very happy to remain as a mentor for as long as you wish, if and when you feel ready to branch out of the adoption programme just drop me a note. I have no qualms with you flying the nest, so to speak. In the meantime, keep up the good work and let me know if i can be of any further assistance! Rockpocket 05:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Sure, please stay in the programme as long as you wish, I'm happy to have you! To answer your questions:
  • There is no need to contact Samuel Jones to ask his permission before expanding his article. Infact, it is often a bad idea to do so, as some people get a little possessive over their own article and feel the need to edit it themselves once they are alerted to its existance. That is never a good situation, as its near impossible for them to be objective. However, in a few situations it can be a helpful to contact the subject. These include asking their permission to use an image of which they hold copyright or asking them to clarify some information. I would recommend getting the page online first, then deciding whether it would be useful to contact him.
  • I'd be happy to read over anything you have. I often make drafts work in subpages, for example see User:Rockpocket/Scrapbook. You could work on a draft of the article on User:S.dedalus/drafts and then other, invited, editors could offer advice.
  • Your sources seem fine to me. Often a few external links or general "further reading" type references are fine as sources for articles. Its usually only WP:BLPs, scientific or critical content that requires strict inline attribution from a reliable source.
  • How long is a piece of string? Technically, editors should get a sequence of "test" templates from{{subst:test0}} (good faith) all the way up to {{subst:test4}} (final warning). However, in practice its best to judge how blatant the vandalism is and act accordingly. Give the benefit of the doubt when it isn't clear, but it it really is trolling vandalism then I might start with a {{subst:test}}, followed by a {{subst:vw}} then use {{subst:blatantvandal}} straight afterwards. If they continue after that, report 'em at WP:AIV.
-- Rockpocket 07:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I have left comments for you here. Rockpocket 07:31, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a million. I’ll get to work on that. S.dedalus 07:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikisource

Another good question, there! Despite searching, I can't find any evidence of a way to link accounts between two different Wikimedia projects. It seems people simply create another account at Wikisource using the same log in name they use here, then create Wikilinks between them: see User:ThomasV and wikisource:user:ThomasV for example. You can create a Wikisource account here. Rockpocket 05:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


I don't know how to send you a message on this site because it has no link to your e-mail. Anyway, I just wanted to say that you are a shame to humanity. I guess you are the true representation of all the radical "liberals" in the U.S. and it shows by your disagreement with the Heysel incident. If i was you I would learn the facts and acknowledge that it was the Liverpool fans who were behaving like absolute animals that day. Why would you want to play it down by not giving the Livepool zealots the blame that they DESERVE!!!! Also, stick to music and leave football (or soccer as you yanks call it) for the people who follow that sport. Any questions? e-mail me at ringbearerdaniel@yahoo.com

Regardless of who is to blame for the Heysel incident Wikipedia is NOT THE PLACE TO EXPRES YOUR PERSIONAL POLITICAL OR MORAL VEWS. I have absolutely no interest in this subject other than that of an editor of Wikipedia. Also in the future please do not place flame messages on my talk page. Thank you.S.dedalus 07:03, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

If you have no interest in the Heysel incident then how can you feel you have the authority to edit what happened when you did not have a clue to what went on? I read several books and one of them was "Football Hooligans". I did some independent research outside the internet in order to be better informed. What I wrote was not my personal or political opinion as you say. Furthermore, wikipedia is not any academic encyclopedia! It is site where anyone is free to edit and share whatever knowledge they have to offer.

Please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:No original research. It is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia that content must be well sourced and from a neutral point of view. Saying that the Liverpool fans were “mean spirited” is not from a Neutral point of view and is worded in a inflammatory manor. Instead let others judge based on their actions. Also, please provide a source for your assertion that those killed were “all Italian Juventus fans.” S.dedalus 07:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your query

Hi! Sorry about the delay in getting back to you, I was off for a short Christmas Wikibreak. The place to report vandalism in progress is WP:AIV, but there are certain criteria that must be met to list there. Personal attacks can be reported at WP:PAIN and more complex cases the require admin attention can be mentioned at WP:ANI. Alterntativly you can give a friendly admin a shout (see this list). Thanks also for the email you sent me a while back. For some reason it was re-routed by my spam filter, so I only found it the other day. I think if sorted that problem out now, but I apologise for not responding until now. Regarding the current issue - I have issued the editor with a final warning and will be watching their editing closely. Do let me know if you come across further vandalism or personal attacks from him and I will deal with it. Rockpocket 07:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Hope you have a great vacation and best wishes for the New Year! Rockpocket 08:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Howdy! Regarding sourcing the music style of your article: although biographies should be well sourced per WP:BLP, in reality articles on non-controversial individuals tend to be poorly sourced. A general rule of thumb is that if you are providing information that would be considered unflattering or critical it must be sourced. If you are providing an description of something they have done, it should be sourced, but if it is uncontroversial and widely accepted, you can usually get away without sourcing it. Of course, if someone challenges it, then it must be sourced or they can remove it.
Regarding your userboxes. Formatting is my weakest point on the project (one of the reasons why my user space is so bare!) You could simply list them like User:C.lettinga, but i'll continue to look around and see if I can find anything to help you, but for the moment I'm going to have admit defeat! Sorry. Rockpocket 08:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vaghtesheh (It's the time)

Hey there, no problem dude. The song talks about "time of separation" and its impacts on the poet. It starts like this:"it's the time to go, it's the time to leave you behind, there is no rebirth, it's the time of my demise...." then poem continues to describe his feelings in the last moments and in the end complains from creation why he had to leave. I hope I was useful. Cheers ! Amir85 09:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Samuel Jones

Hi. Ahh, sorry about that. It was my fault, as I forgot about the auto redirects that are set up when you move an article. Basically the composer article's talk page, was redirecting to the jazz musician's talk page. Anyway, problem solved now, and I have added a few appropriate templates. Everything else looks good.

You asked about linking to sections. You can do that. There is some information at this subsection: Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context#Subsections. Briefly, you use a "#" followed by the the subsection name. You should also pipe the link: e.g. if you are interested in linking to Jones' orchestral work you would write [[Samuel Jones (composer)#Orchestral|orchestral work]]. Rockpocket 08:35, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox Migration

Hi! Userbox migration is one proposed solution to the great Userbox debate that has raged on Wikipedia for a while. Basically, the idea is to move Userbox templates to individual sub-pages of their creators. The idea being that editors can create whatever userboxes they wish, as long as they remain in their own sub-pages, and not in other namespace. Do you wish to migrate, or create, a userbox yourself? I can help you do that if you wish. Rockpocket 05:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

For some reason people seem to prefer to have userboxes they create in template space rather than their own userspace (I suppose they think it gives it a great legitimacy, or perhaps because it might attract more attention there). So often when they are moved, their creator will try to move them back. Move-warring may ensue. Since I don't use userboxes myself (I prefer to remain enigmatic!), its not really something that I have much experience in. Rockpocket 07:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nancy's Fancy

Hello -- I actually added a note to the John Adams talk page immediately after inserting Nancy's Fancy into his list of compositions. It reads, "A quick note about my addition of Nancy's Fancy to Adams' list of works, which is undoubtedly an obscure piece (I've never heard it myself). I saw it mentioned in a list of SF Symphony premieres of Adams' work ([1]) as well as in the following article in the SF Chronicle: [2]." Rmannion 00:34, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re Music Images

Hello. Regarding you question about images, i'm afraid I may not be able to give you a definative answers, but I'll do my best. As far as I can tell there is nothing wrong with uploading images of musical notations. However, they will have to be uploaded as images (such as .png files, see Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload). It shouldn't matter what software you use as long as the output meets certain criteria:

  • The notated music illustrated in the image must not infringe on someone's copyright (including that of the credited composer of the music and that of the software used to make the image), though you could possibly make a fair use claim if it is under copyright.

You should also be careful of having too many images in a single article, for technical reasons, and also to make sure you don't violate WP:NOT: music notation is fine to illustrate examples or for critical comment, but we shouldn't be reproducing whole large amounts of musical notation (think of it like writing about a book, we can use quotes from the book to illustrate points, but we can't simply reproduce the entire book).

You can upload images using the Upload file link on the toolbox (probably on the left of your screen). Make sure you give it an appropriate license from the pull down menus and also explain the source of the image and any claims of fair use you might make. If you are having problems, there is help at Wikipedia:Uploading images, also feel free to let me know and I can help you out - as it can be tricky until you get the hang of it.

Finally, the above are pretty much general considerations. There may well be precedent or guidelines regarding musical notation that I am not aware of (and not knowing much about music, I may be missing some important copyright issues also). So I would advise you to seek guidance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Noticeboard before doing any wholescale uploading of musical notation. Rockpocket 08:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading your MIDI

You can use Special:Upload to upload audio files, however the file type must be Ogg Vorbis. See Wikipedia:Media#Audio for more information, including links to programs that can help you convert file types. − Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 10:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit count

Hi there and welcome back! There are a few tools you can use to monitor your (or others) edit counts, one is here (though it currently has a long delay). You can also opt into a more detailed analysis of your edits using this tool. There are other tools listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters. Once you have over 5000 edits you can check your "ranking" at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits (I was 1963rd at the last count), but be careful of Editcountitis. Rockpocket 07:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Afd

That Afd looks perfectly formed to me. You might wish to explicitly state your opinion with a first delete !vote, but other than that it looks fine. Rockpocket 02:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kudos to you

(Barn star moved to my Awards page. Thanks again!)



Hello S.dedalus. I want to thank you so much for starting Wikipedia:Responding to suicidal individuals. This is seriously needed here. I am actually ashamed of myself and embarrased for not having thought of this myself. Anyways, you have done a great thing by starting this. I am awarding you The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar. It is usually given for protecting our articles against vandalism and POV, but what good is protecting the wiki-pages if we are not protecting the Wikipedians? I thank you and commmend you whole-heartedly. Best, Johntex\talk 23:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I concur. Its a very good proposal, especially from a relatively new editor, so well done. I think there are some issues with it that need to be worked out and I would be surprised if it makes it all the way to policy, but its certainly a worthy attempt and i'm certain it will be helpful in whatever format it ends up in. Rockpocket 00:29, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the help desk yo--74.138.83.10 (talk) 08:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Suicidal troll

I note your strong disagreement with the reversion. Having now read the wikipedia policy on such matters, I would not take the same action again. Thanks --Tagishsimon (talk)

[edit] Copyright violations

Hi!. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you, I somehow missed your question yesterday. If the content is a blatant copyright infringement, see WP:CSD#G12, then it can be speedy deleted. First check if there is a clean revision in the page history, if so revert to it. If not, you should tag the article with the following:

And you can put:

  • {{subst:uw-copyright|page name|url=url of source}} ~~~~

on the user's talk page. If you think it is a copyvio, but are not sure or can't find a link to the source, you can get help at WP:CV.

One other bit of advice, try and be careful of comments such as "If this is indeed the case then homeschooling is defiantly the best option" on the Ref Desk. With our limited knowledge we really can't know what "is definantly the best option", and we wouldn't want to convince some poor kid to set their sights on something that is neither possible nor even in their best interests. Its a good idea to keep it in terms of something like "homeschooling is definantly someting I would recommend" or "homeschooling is definantly someting you could consider". Rockpocket 20:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amsterdam

If you plan to be in Amsterdam before June 24, you might want to check out the program of the Holland Festival: [3] (click the British flag if it's in Dutch). Many interesting concerts and performances, and student tickets are only 10 euro. Skarioffszky 09:28, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suicide policy (was not so painless)

Hi. It appears that Wikipedia:Responding to suicidal individuals has not managed to make it to policy. Don't be disheartened, though, its very rare that policy is formed in that manner and so it was a huge ask to propose it as such. Nevertheless, it was a very good attempt. It was healthy that the issue was raised and discussed and the proposal will remain up for others to learn from, so hopefully it will still have an impact on future incidents. I just wanted to say well done again, for you fine effort. Rockpocket 07:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

I think that image may well be acceptable under a fair use claim (see Wikipedia:Non-free content) seeing as the topic of the article is essentially the video and there is not way it could be recreated. If you agree, be sure to justify it with a valid fair use rationale. You could always ask Wikipedia talk:Requested copyright examinations if you want more expert advice. Rockpocket 23:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Composer infoboxes

You recently spoke, on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera, against the blanket removal of infoboxes from articles about composers, or on an attempt to reach a compromise solution. Despite around a dozen people doing so, there are claims that consensus for their blanket removal was reached. You may be interested in the ongoing debate on the former talk page. Andy Mabbett 10:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Du’a Khalil Aswad

The AINA article only says the website that originally aired the clips said the police helped kill her, they do not make any claims about it themselves. But the way the sentance was originally phrased makes it sounds like they're making the claim. Since it's not obvious from watching the video, we shouldn't include the statement unless there is a reliable source to attribute it to.--Cúchullain t/c 00:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yes I see. And jebar.info is not a reputable news source? I can’t really find any information on it.S.dedalus 02:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't know anything about it, so I don't know if it's reliable or not. I guess the first step would be finding wherever it was they said that, and seeing if they attribute it to some source besides the video. If they say you can see that in the video, I think that's flat wrong - it's not obvious from watching it, and I don't think reliable media would claim it is. If they don't give another source, that would be a strike against their credibility as well, given the seriousness of the allegation and the fact that no later reliable sources have even even repeated it without the qualification that it was jebar.info that said it.
If you want to include the line, you could say something like "according to jebar.info, police officers did nothing to stop the attack and even participated..." and then give a link to wherever jebar said it (if you can). But I'd prefer we stay away from such sensational and serious allegations until we can find a real reliable source to attribute it to.--Cúchullain t/c 02:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Well this is where it talks about Du’a Khalil Aswad I assume. Since I don’t speak Arabic I guess I’ll have to try to find someone around here that does. S.dedalus 18:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vacation!

See y’all in about a month. I’m off to the sunny Mediterranean for a little vacation! I’ll miss you all. Maybe I can send you a postcard :-) S.dedalus 04:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Deleted pages

Hi. I'm afraid only administrators can see the history of a deleted page. However, in certain circumstances they may provide the information to you or copy the deleted material across to a subpage of your choosing. I can tell you that that particular page was simply a redirect to List of LGBT composers (which, itself, has been deleted). If you are interested, I see no reason why the deleted material on that page should not be made temporarily available to you. If you would like to nominate a user subpage, I will copy it over to there. Though for various reasons, it shouldn't really be stored there permanently, so when you have obtained what you need from it, you should let me know and I can delete it again. Rockpocket 07:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

If you're just interested in why the page was deleted - then all you have to do is go to the page. In this case the admin says that it was deleted because of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_LGBT_composers - so read that and you'll know why--danielfolsom 15:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi again, I have copied the material to User:S.dedalus/temporary. Regarding a list of LGBT artists, do you mean artists as in painters/sculptors? I note there is already Category:LGBT visual artists, and therefore it could be deleted under the same rationale as the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual composers. Though, personally, I don't see why it was deleted in the first place. The AfD certainly doesn't read like a consensus to delete to me. Rockpocket 07:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your referencing problem, here is what you do. You need to give the reference a name in the first instance, like this:
  • <ref name="fcit">[http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/arts/musRespo.htm Music in response to the Holocaust] (Retrieve July 7, 2007)</ref>
Then each subsequent time you use it you use the following format:
  • <ref name="fcit"/>
There is also an explanation at Wikipedia:Footnotes#Citing a footnote more than once. I have changed the first Ref and the first example of subsequent use in the article as an example. All you need to do is change the rest. Rockpocket 07:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks!

...for the barnstar! Appreciate that; I especially appreciate that it wasn't yet another "RickK" star, but was one actually about what I do. Yes we've met and I remember you; I think it was talking about Joyce at the reference desk, but I've seen you around a lot. Good to know there are some others knowledgeable about composition and theory here! Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 00:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Only a flesh wound

The photo on your "About me" page, of Nagasaki - is that the Black Knight in the centre? DuncanHill 23:01, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Homosexuality

I replied to your speculative post at the Humanities desk. --Dweller 10:10, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Very interesting. Thank you for your enlightening response. --S.dedalus 21:00, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anthony Burgess

Many people start with Clockwork Orange but while his best-known book (and do make sure you have read the full version, with Alex as a "grown-up" reflecting on his life in the last chapter), it is probably not his best. I would strongly recommend Earthly Powers for its language, exploration of ideas, and its humour. Joyce makes a cameo appearence. The Long Day Wanes (also published as The Malayan Trilogy) is also an excellent starting point. Byrne, a novel in verse about a "rampant Irish artist" and the Twentieth Century, is an astonishing read. The Enderby trilogy, about a flatulent poet and including much of Enderby's poetry, is another good entry. Of his non-fiction, I have already mentioned Here Comes Everybody: An Introduction to James Joyce for the Ordinary Reader, Homage to Qwert Yuiop is a collection of some of his journalism, and gives a good taste of his range, interests and philosophy. Happy reading! DuncanHill 21:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I'm afraid that image copyright issues is not an area I'm familiar enough with for me to charge in to a dispute. While I'd like to help, can I suggest you find an admin who deals with these issues. Sorry! --Dweller 09:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

The dispute appears to be resolved now. Thanks, and sorry to bother you. --S.dedalus 21:10, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply re: project

Hi. I replied to your kind request on my talk page. MdArtLover 23:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RFC:Conductor infoboxes

i know canvassing is kinda tacky, but there is currently underway is an attempt by a just a few editors to prohibit the use of infoboxes in articles of all classical musicians. in my view, the manner in which the policy was adopted was just a bit underhanded, and skeevishly done. if you are at all interested keeping the infoboxes, please go here and join the discussion. if you would like to loose them...well...just ignore this message. cheers! -- emerson7 05:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the Shneur Zalman Friedman article

Someone the AFD suggested moving the article to Wikinews, wich seems like a more apropriate place for it. Only problem is they use a difference license so we can't just copy the GFDL licensed artice over there. However since you wrote most of the article you are free to "dual license" it to also be available under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license used by Wikinews in addition to the existing GFDL license. this version of the article (before anyone else started editing it) could then be put on Wikinews, wich unlike Wikipedia do accept news articles. --Sherool (talk) 09:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

This is unfortunate how the article will be deleted, i don't see any argument why a news story cannot become an encyclopedia issue. I strongly urge you to fight this trough, because i don't see any consensus here, the way it is being deleted is clearly not the right way, People are being called there to vote in group mentality, this should have never been a call for the WikiProject to come in this discussion, it has nothing at all to do with Judaism. I myself would never ever been privy to this debate if i wasn't a Jewish User who keeps close ties with Jews on wikipedia to see what Jewish articles need my help, i should not have been called here to express my opinion, please don't count it, you stay with the article if you discount all those users who were called here for their identety--יודל 16:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You helped choose Franz Liszt as this week's WP:ACID winner

Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive.
This week Franz Liszt was selected to be improved to featured article status.
Hope you can help.

Zginder 13:07, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiprojects and canvassing

Hello. Posting notices to wikiproject boards is well accepted practice in wikipedia. However, individually canvassing wikieditors with similar points of view, as User:Yidisheryid seems to be doing, is not. He has been warned for this before at user talk:Yidisheryid#WP:CANVASS .... -- Avi 19:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

It's called transclusion and is done by many projects in the wiki. -- Avi 20:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

They are my opinions and I'm free to express them. I certainly won't be withdrawing those remarks since they don't fail any policy. --Folantin 20:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I'm saying it's highly likely the only reason such editors have turned up at this particular moment on this particular page is because emerson7 has canvassed them in the hope they would deliver a favourable opinion. It is standard practice to issue such warnings at AfDs, RfAs etc. if canvassing is suspected. It is perfectly fair to warn other editors about it and they are free to make up their own minds accordingly. Please don't quote policy at me. The only person in clear violation of policy here has been Emerson7 and I don't see any reprimands from you on his talk page. --Folantin 20:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
"I am very frustrated with what I believe is vote stacking and manipulation of consensus...". That's supposed to be "AGF" and "civil". Please, just give us a break... --Folantin 21:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fight club

Hey S.Dedalus, i just read your comment on the reference desk about insomnia and the reference to Fight Club, it might be of some interest to you that, the main character (no name given in the film, or book) does not take valerian root and ignores the doctors suggestions, so it wasn't the valerian root which made him violent, infact it may have been the lack of...

just thought you might be interested, it is one of my favourite films, RobertsZ 21:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I’ll have to check it out. I’ve only seen the trailer. --S.dedalus 21:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Sure, i would highly recommend it, some very interesting points about society are raised, i hope you enjoy it RobertsZ 21:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not canvas puppet

Hi Kleinzach, thanks for your polite reply concerning the canvassing. I think perhaps you misconstrue my motives in joining the discussion at Proposal on bio-infoboxes though. --S.dedalus 23:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but you were contacted as a known pro-boxer. That's why I think you should withdraw. If you participate it encourages the anti-boxers to canvass as well. -- Kleinzach 00:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually emerson7 seems to have picked people from the projects indiscriminately. In fact one of the users he contacted, User:Garion96, just voted AGAINST user boxes. But I’m sure now that you know that you will also ask him to withdraw his vote. . . --S.dedalus 00:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Good point. Why not contact him and agree to strike out all your text? That will set a good example and you will win everybody's respect. -- Kleinzach 00:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] what a fine mess..

i'm really sorry for the mess i stirred up, i'm really shocked at the vehemence and nastiness that's being slung around. it was really not my intent to go out of bounds in doing what i did, and now i see that the main issue is being totally eclipsed by my decidedly stupid blunder. --emerson7 00:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: List of string quartets by composer AfD

I've just deleted the three lists you brought to AfD. You might like to list Template:Pieces-stringquartet-composer as well, which I think was part of the defunct scheme. Regards, Espresso Addict 16:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Done, thank you. --S.dedalus 01:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philosophy subcat

Sounds good to me. Those claims of his would need to be substantiated, I think, as I can't recall any personal attacks (maybe I didn't read closely enough) and it was his claim, rather than reality, that the discussions were about categories in general. Seemed to me they were addressing the specifics of a philosophical designation. Totally inappropriate for him to close, yes. DionysosProteus 22:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Closure

[edit] Canvassing?

Hi, could you give me an example of the canvassing you referred to in relation to your “Wikipedians by philosophy and subcats” deletion nomination? Thanks, --S.dedalus 21:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I think it's better that we move on. - jc37 23:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] conflict of interest

Hi, Since you have a clear conflict of interest regarding your nomination of Wikipedians by philosophy and subcats for deletion, I would like to ask you to please revert your decision to close that debate. Since you clearly have a strong POV in regards to the issue I ask you to please allow a neutral third party to review the discussion instead. Thanks you, --S.dedalus 23:02, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

No. I didn't close the discussion as actionable (delete/rename/whatever), so whether I have a COI or not isn't relevant. In the meantime, please be patient while I work on the (hopefully) clearer nominations. - jc37 23:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion discussion

No need to work on a new nomination now. I’m going to bring up the current descusion on Wikipedia:Deletion review later tonight. Please wait until the outcome of this is decided to take further action on this issue.
So you publicly accuse editors involved in that discussion of canvassing, and refuse to justify the claim? That assertion has a clear impact on the results of the discussion. I think you owe people an answer on this point. --S.dedalus 23:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome to start a DRV if you feel that it's appropriate. Though I wonder at the purpose of it. Is there some reason you oppose further (albeit positive) discussion? - jc37 23:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I believe the discussion needs to be focused on possible irregularities in the handling of the previous discussion and its subsequent abrupt closer. --S.dedalus 23:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I think you are misunderstanding some things somewhat, but ok, for informational purposes, you may wish to check out Wikipedia:Deletion debates. It has many useful links. WP:UCFD follows a format similar to WP:CFD. And of course, this is the link to Deletion review. I hope this helps. - jc37 23:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, --S.dedalus 00:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Review of Wikipedians by philosophy and subcats deletion nomination

Due to the somewhat unusual nature of the situation and because it did not fit within the standard deletion review guidelines, I have chosen to request a review of Wikipedians by philosophy and subcats at WP:AN/I as suggested by the instructions. If you are still interested in this discussion please feel free to contribute here. --S.dedalus 07:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice. I commented there. - jc37 17:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Awww, gawrsh.

My second barnstar. Yippee! Thanks. --Milkbreath 15:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terraforming in popular culture

Hi. You recently changed the Firefly section entry in Terraforming in popular culture from "Other examples" to "Terraforming of fictional planets in popular culture", which while not altogether bad, isn't ideal. First of all, per style guidelines, editors should avoid duplicating the title of the article (or the name of the topic) in section headers. Second, since we are dealing with the Firefly TV series under the "Television and film" section, I think it's best to just merge this into the associated television and film table. If you don't have any objections, I'll go ahead and do this, however, the section still needs references so it would be wonderful if you could help out in that regard. Let me know. —Viriditas | Talk 06:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with your master plan. Have at it! :) Please contact me if I can help out. It would be great to have some pics on this page, too. —Viriditas | Talk 07:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Speedy deletion of User WPContemporary

A tag has been placed on User WPContemporary, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. - Jameson L. Tai talkcontribs 04:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Response: Userboxes should be created with "Template:XXXXXXX" so you may use {{Template:XXXXXXXX}}. I speedy deleted because your userbox is not an article. Please fix your coding and move it to the appropriate format! Good luck and happy editing!  :-) - Jameson L. Tai talkcontribs 04:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] userbox contemporary music

I moved it to User:S.dedalus/contemporary music as we now must keep them in user space. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 04:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Ack! I did not think of that. I don't know. Now I'm another message behind. Arrg! Dlohcierekim 04:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I really don't know. I never created one before. Dlohcierekim 04:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to figure out the message above this, and I really feel more and more like you had it right the first time. I'm looking for instructions. Many don't: no "how to". Dlohcierekim 05:02, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

AHA! I will copy paste it to-- Template:User WikiProject contemporary music

Sorry for my confusion! Dlohcierekim 05:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Percy Grainger

Re the {{refimprove}} tag, which bits of the section would you say need better citation? Apart from some small specifics, I think the John Bird biography covers just about everything in the "Idiosyncrasies" section (for instance, the flagellation and arrests for vagrancy). Would an overall citation be sufficient, or would it need more specific reference for the unusual bits? Gordonofcartoon (talk) 19:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi S.dedalus, you've been around the block a few times, is there any particular reason why this should remain a red link? David D. (Talk) 03:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I did not get back to you, I'm really busy right now and want to do any nomination justice i.e. I need to research a bit. Please be patient; you have been :). Happy Boxing Day (almost). David D. (Talk) 02:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP Contemporary music

Wow, what a great idea. Yes, sure. Badagnani (talk) 04:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {[tl|Modernistic-composition-stub}}

Hi - a stub template or category which you created has been nominated for deletion or renaming at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. The stub type, which was not proposed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, does not meet the standard requirements for a stub type, either through being incorrectly named, ambiguously scoped, or through failure to meet standards relating to the current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Wikipedia:Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha? 00:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Grutness, The {{Modernistic-composition-stub}} is being used for discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contemporary music. Why do you feel it possibly qualifies for deletion or renaming?

Hi S.dedalus (a Joyce fan?) - the reasons:

  1. Where was the proposal of this stub type at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals?
  2. Where are the required 60 currently existing stubs which would take this template?
  3. Why does it feed directly into a permanent category rather than a stub category?
  4. Why is it named as a subtype of a non-existent stub ({{Composition-stub}})?
  5. Why is it named as a stub type for a non-existent permanent category (Cat:Modernistic compositions)?
  6. Why does it use a lesser-used adjective (modernistic, rather than modernist)?

That do? At the very least, this needed to be proposed at WP:WSS/P before being created (as is stressed at Wikipedia:Stub), so that any problems with naming and scope could have been addressed. Grutness...wha? 00:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, yeah, it is a bit bureaucratic - but there are very good reasons for it, some of which are explained at WP:STUB - for some others, have a look at my comments in the debate at WP:SFD about Yiddish-stub. The most important one is that stub templates form such an interconnected web of similar templates that trying to keep some sort of standard practice for their naming and scope becomes necessary if anyone's going to be able to keep track of them all (which is important if you're a stub sorter). Classical-composition-stub seems to be a bit of an oddity which I hadn't noticed before - the normal naming of stub templates is X-y-stub, where the X indicates a specific subtype of Y-stub.
As for modernistic vs modernist, I've just checked several dictionaries I have here, and all of them give modernist as both a noun and an adjective, and only one lists modernistic as an accepted variant of modernist. I suspect it may be a US English vs rest-of-the-world English thing (the only one that mentioned modernistic was a Websters - all the other ones I checked were Commonwealth English). Grutness...wha? 01:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I've replied over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Contemporary_music - seems better there rather than having you relay messages back and forth :) Grutness...wha? 00:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Dear S.dedalus, here is a little note to say thank you for your kind support on my request for adminship which succeeded with a final result of (72/19/6).

Now that I am a sysop, do not hesitate to contact me with any queries you have. I would be glad to help you along with the other group of kind and helpful administrators.

Thank you again and I look forward to editing alongside you in the future. — E talk 12:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the welcome!

Thanks, it's great to be a part of WP: Contemporary Music! I'll contribute as much to the project as I possibly can.--Wolf m corcoran (talk) 20:39, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Contemporary music

Thanks for your invitation to the project. I've just joined up and look forward to contributing. Best, Dan.—DCGeist (talk) 09:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

S.dedalus, you seem to have deleted my signature and part of my comment on the TfD page. Might I ask why? WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDENplay it cool. 21:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I’m so sorry! I’m not sure why that happened there. I must have been extraordinarily clumsy and deleted part of the proceeding text when I copy-pasted. My bad. I’m really glad you saw that before the page was archived. --S.dedalus (talk) 22:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
No worries. WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDENplay it cool. 22:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your kind words, they are appreciated. Did you ever give Anthony Burgess a try? I'm still struggling with Joyce! DuncanHill (talk) 00:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject

Thank you for inviting the newbie! i'm gonna add myself on the list and see what i can do :-) --Ohverde (talk) 05:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Contemporary music

Hi! Thanks for the invite to the WikiProject. I've been working on some film and narrative related articles recently, but I'll be happy to watch the project page and help out whenever I can. Regards. dissolvetalk 00:13, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: G. W. Bush = sock puppet

Sure, go for it! Dismas|(talk) 03:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Informal mediation

I have volunteered to help out as an informal mediator for Parkour based on the request to MedCab for assistance (Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-02-11 Parkour). I am currently taking the time to review the article and talk page history. If you have any questions or concerns, or wish to make an additional comment, please feel free to leave a comment on the case page (Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-02-11_Parkour#Discussion) or on my talk page. Cheers! Vassyana (talk) 08:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back! I haven't heard back from the other participants yet, so take your time and settle back in. Cheers! :) Vassyana (talk) 12:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] snicker

Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Stoning_in_the_Bible.2FOld_Testament That was the whole video and I already linked to aswad whatshername in my post :D :D\=< (talk) 03:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. :-P I see you’re “her” link too now. Considering that I work extensively on that article I should’ve been able to figure that out at least. . . --S.dedalus (talk) 04:21, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mozart

I wasn't able to verify the circulating Glenn Gould quote about Mozart having died too late, rather than too soon, but I thought you might enjoy this clip anyway. (For some reason I can only access the German layout; maybe this one will work instead). ---Sluzzelin talk 06:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reference Desk

Hmm, seems like lots of people are giving "medical advice" like "see your doctor" or "discontinue use". All I did was mention what I'd do in a given situation. If you think that's medical advice, so be it, I'd call it common sense. Useight (talk) 07:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Music project

Thanks for the invite. I'll add myself - Rothorpe (talk) 15:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Contemporary Music

SD,

Thanks for the invite! I'm signed on. Let's get to work! SingCal 19:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Brushing teeth with bleach

Thank you for removing questions that you consider dangerous, but I am not seeking any sort of medical advice. Also, your comment "If you already have please seek medical help immediately" made me laugh. :P HYENASTE 02:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] unnecessary excessive extent of your deletions

Hi. I think of discussions on talk page as an opportunity to learn something and as an opportunity to eliminate confusion rather than as an opportunity to keep other people from learning something or from eliminating confusion.

When you take a conclusive action such as deleting everything leading up to a conclusive action you may be doing a disservice by keeping others from learning and by creating, rather than eliminating confusion for others. Sure we do not want profanity. You are invited to delete profanity but there are several ways of doing it which printed publication editors have used for years. One way is to replace characters which make up a profane word with alternate characters that allow the reader to know that profanity was used there. In this way you retain credibility as an editor rather than turning your self into a self appointed censor. For instance you can replace the phrase Fuck You with the phrase F--K Y-u or with the phrase F#$@ Y#%@ to accomplish the goal of editing without becoming a censor.

Hi, could you explain what you’re talking about please? To the best of my knowledge I have not deleted anything from any talk page recently. What are you referring to? Thanks, --S.dedalus (talk) 17:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Contemporary Music invite

Thanks for the kind invitation. What would I have to do, and how much time would it involve? My own updates on wikipedia tend to be in fits and starts. Besides, I should let you know that I'm not a professional musician or musically trained, but simply an amateur, in the classic and not watered-down sense. Thanks, DJRafe (talk) 00:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, I went for it :) . We'll see how it goes. Thanks, DJRafe (talk) 05:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parkour

Could you touch base with us at Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-02-11_Parkour#Touching_base? Thanks! Vassyana (talk) 08:08, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] ====How to create and make music====

I'm trying to become a musician and write my own songs as well as trying to perform by my two ear (which would simplify the productive music making process) yet I'm having difficulty understanding and the steps I must accomplish in order to reach my attainable goal. And yet when I see artists like Phil Collins or Genesis who write songs with ease I envy them when I know I can do just the same though don't know where to start. You see, I don't know how to play by ear because I can barely identify the pitches of a melody. And I can't discern three or four notes played simultaneously unless played as a arpeggio. And with the same reason, I was asking your help if it can be managed if you can offer tips of titution to assist me in my little predicament of mine (sorry!). --Writer Cartoonist (talk) 00:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Melodeclamation

If this should ever happen to be relisted for deletion, please let me know. I do not regularly frequent the deletion pages but would like to know. Thank you, Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 20:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing. I’m actually now going to try move the page to a more common name like “melodic declamation.” More sources can then be found perhaps. --S.dedalus (talk)

[edit] Conclusion: Image placeholders centralized discussion

Hi. I'm sending this to you because you participated in the Centralized discussion on image placeholders that ended on 23 April.

That discussion must produce a conclusion.

We originally asked "Should the addition of this box [example right] be allowed? Does the placeholder system and graphic image need to be improved to satisfy policies and guidelines for inclusion? Is it appropriate to some kinds of biographies, but not to others?" (See introduction).

Conclusions to centralized discussions are either marked as 'policy', 'guideline', 'endorsed', 'rejected', 'no consensus', or 'no change' etc. We should now decide for this discussion.

Please read and approve or disapprove the section here: Conclusion --Kleinzach (talk) 10:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Please note this message conforms to WP:CANVASSING and has not been sent to anyone has not already participated in the centralized discussion.

[edit] Who is good at this?

I came to your page from here. Who's good with this? My inclination is to contact the Foundation, but I thought I'd check in with somebody wiser than myself, first. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 03:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you can do a better job than I. Thanks. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 04:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Yes, what's up? Nyttend (talk) 03:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think I can do it; you might do better to contact User:Majorly, an apparently British editor who's online right now. Nyttend (talk) 03:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Help needed

I can see where your concern is coming from, but to be honest, it just looks like the average vandalism one tends to get on Wikipedia. To experienced R.C.Patrollers, this is nothing new. Further more, I am only a Wikipedia administrator, resitricted to intervention within the Wiki-community only and not outside, real-life matters. This type of thing is out of my hands. BTW can you not call the number? Lradrama 13:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, OK, well as long as it's been seen to then. Happy editing. Lradrama 06:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Police Email

I got the email from the Finance guy for the commissioner. If anything happens that is an emergency use it <--removed--> By the way he also said we are "NOT to use the website"s.

Just as it says. We are not use anything on their website Below is the exact message

" Mr Goodermote,

The email address that you need for anything of a urgent nature is <--removed--> which is manned 24/7.

Do NOT use the Redbridge Police site for emergencies.

<--removed--> "

I changed his words some what. Also I removed sensitive information Rgoodermote  22:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I assume

that this is just a garden-variety test edit, but I want to be 100% sure because the vandal says they "hope sum1 reads this" whatever that means. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 04:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)