Talk:S. R. Sidarth

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Contents 1 Merge 2 Merged 3 No longer a nobody 4 Birth year 5 Naming Policy 6 Image Deletion 7 Might have 8 Notable only for one event

[edit] Merge

This is almost word for word from the Macaca incident coverage on the George Felix Allen page. I suggest a merge, then replacing this page with a redirect to the Allen page. This page is essentially redundant information. Richardjames444 18:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

True, I originally cut and pasted much from the George Allen page to make this page. On the George Allen page I wrote in the discussion that Sidarth deserves a page and that there should be shortened coverage on George Allen's page and a link here since the implications of this are not yet known and it shouldn't dominate the George Allen page. Putting it on the George Allen page makes that page a news reel. Putting it here puts it's (unknown) level of importance in context. Claymoney 19:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I think a better place for the bulk of the topic would be on the 2006 election article. This really is more of a campaign issue than a major Allen topic as it occured within the context of the campaign. --StuffOfInterest 19:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I can't agree. This could be a career-ending moment for Allen, so belongs on his page rather than a general campaign article. Richardjames444 19:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

We can't futurecast. It certainly should be mentioned on his page, but unless we suddenly see his poll numbers drop 15 points I wouldn't put excessive significance on it. --StuffOfInterest 19:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd agree to have it on the 2006 election article as opposed to here or on the Allen page. It happened within the past few days. The George Allen page shouldn't be a newsreel. Claymoney 19:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

It should be on this page because Allen's loss directly contributed to Harry Reid being Majority Leader in a Democratic Senate. IF anything Sidarth changed history, even though it was just by being in the right place at the right time. 12:17, 30 May 2007 (PST)

[edit] Merged

I redirected the article to George Felix Allen#Macaca controversy for now. Depending on the result of some other conversations, I might change it to the Virginia U.S. Senate election, 2006#The Macaca/monkey incident at some point, which would be substantively the same. Richardjames444 01:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

just because the entry for this man was solely about an incident, doesn't mean his page should redirect to senator allen's. what a silly idea. does allen's page tell me biographical info about this man? where was he born? how old is he? where did he go to school? i mean, shouldn't "george allen" just redirect me to "US Senate" then? ridiculous.

--Heterodoxus 01:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The argument that has been presented is that Sidarth is not notable individually, but people might search for his name only in relation to the Allen incident. It's the acceptable argument to deleting the article entirely. Richardjames444 01:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

part of the point is where he was born. allen said "welcome to america". but the guys was born in virginia. how will people know if you don't list it? he deserves his own page. even if it's two lines.

--Heterodoxus 05:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

It says in the George Allen article that he is 'Indian-American', I don't know if it is all that important to get into every minute detail to show just how much of an ass George Allen is- it seems pretty clear that he is one. Richardjames444 10:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

It also says in the Allen article that he was born and raised in Virginia, which should take care of your objections. Richardjames444 12:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Why don't we direct it to the 2006 Elections page? Claymoney 14:23, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Go for it, as long as it directs to the particular section. Richardjames444 14:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

See Rodney King RaveenS 13:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No longer a nobody

Created a seperate entry on S. R. SidarthRaveenS 18:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birth year

Do we know it? He won't be 20 years old forever, and we don't want to update that number every year for the rest of his life. Biruitorul 07:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Can we assume it is 1976 ? RaveenS 13:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

1986 sounds better to me, if he's 20. Biruitorul 02:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming Policy

What's the naming policy here? He might have gotten a Wikipedia spotlight by being called "Macaca" by Allen, but why the heck is that slipped into his name in the title? Okay, so he wrote a paper. I still doubt he would consider that a part of his name. We should go to Nixon's site and rebrand it Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Entropy Rising (talk • contribs) 00:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

I think "Mecaca" should redirect here. 124.43.205.34 06:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

No it should have its own article. RaveenS 22:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image Deletion

Just wondering why the photo is a candidate for speedy deletion. Is it because it's already displayed on the "United States Senate election in Virginia, 2006" page? 24.61.46.110 03:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Might have

Sidarth "might have played football as an underclassman at defensive end, tight end, punter and kicker"? That's a fairly hilarious sentence. What's far more amusing is the fact the the "needs citation" tag appears after the word "might." We actually probably don't need a citation to say that he "might have played football" or for that matter that he "might not have played football" since neither of these sentences actually say anything. If there's no source we should probably just remove the whole bit--it hardly matters whether or not he played high school ball anyway.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 07:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notable only for one event

This might be a perfect example of what WP:ONEEVENT is supposed to address. If this is the only notable item for this individual, I will propose a merge into 2006 election. ~Pesco^{Say it!} 17:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

It does seem like an example of that, but his situation might be a bit different. Though he's arguably only notable for that one event, that notability is very strong. He was named Salon.com's "Person of the Year" and profiled in a Time magazine "Person of the Year" piece. That's rather significant and suggests an article on him is warranted. If it were to be merged, the place to do it would be here. As of now though I personally think it makes more sense to keep the article here.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 19:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

At first read your comment appeared sound. Then I read the Salon.com article and the Time article. Unlike most of "Person of the Year" bits, most of the content is about the incident, not Sidarth. The Salon article is especially devoid of any information. The Time article at least tells us his majors. There's even a discussion on this talk page about how old he is because his birthday isn't even publicly known. I'm afraid these articles didn't help convince me that WP:ONEEVENT doesn't apply to this article. ~Pesco^{So say•we all} 20:56, 26 May 2008 (UTC)