Talk:Sławomir Borewicz
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[edit] Making jokes in mainspace
Errr, I don't get something: why is it not at Sławomir Borewicz?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 06:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- Just give him one more barnstar straight away for yet another trol... great Wiki contribution, as you always do. We need more edits like this. These edits make Wiki a great place to be Encyclopaedia Editing Dude 06:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid that the article's title is a WP:POINT and it should be renamed. Unless I totally misunderstood this of course. --Lysytalk 08:07, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Nope, I didn't want to prove any point, I simply lost my temper and got carried away. Actually I thought people might actually like the idea. After all the -icz suffix is commonly associated with the GDL, so the personality might actually be Lithuanian, we don't know that. //Halibutt 09:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- I would do the move myself, but I'm not sure if our fellow editors would not consider it an example of my alleged anti-Lithuanianess. Is it ok for me to move the article to the Polish title? Feel free to revert my move if you do think so. //Halibutt 11:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think it's an articulate case in point of the recent wave of Lithuanization that has unfortunately come to haunt Polish, Ruthenian and Litvin topics in general, raising awareness of this pending problem. Truthseeker 85.5 23:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
- While the problem undeniably exists, this was not a constructive way of dealing with it.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 12:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bennie and Lennie
I found this so hilarious that I was about to create in my userspace under the name user:Irpen/Lyolik i Bolik and new page that I envisioned like this:
Lyolik i Bolik or Lyolik and Bolik (Russian: Лёлик и Болик), (Polish: Bolek i Lolek) also known as Bennie and Lennie where...
I was about to save this article in my userspace (not in main, of course) as a joke and invite you all for a good laugh when I saw this :( as I was googling for links. Too bad this article was moved. It should have remained under the original name as a monument to WP:Point just like a redirect List of Polish Martyrdom sites still has an original masterpiece in its history. --Irpen 07:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notability
- pl wikipedia article
- ~400 Google hits w/out Wikipedia
- mentions in various articles - ex. [1], [2], [3], [4]...
- 07 zgłoś się is a cult Polish tv series, and as such, its main characters - as this one - are notable. Unfortunatly there seem to be no English language coverage of this character, but that's not that surprising. I'll stub the serial soon.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Do any of those sources provide real world information (development, true assertions of notability that doesn't involve the series)? That is all that matters when deciding notability. If not, it needs to be a redirect to the television show (that's where I thought I was redirecting it). TTN 21:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- You were redirecting it to the article about Milicja, a quite real phenomena. With the disclaimer that I have not seen this series, ever, some of the articles I now glanced at note that he was a cult character, a major role and the author who played him is still identified with him (he was the leading actor for the series). Since the series is evidently popular, I think the lead character deserves an article. If you want to fight for notability, try pruning stuff from here :> -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, the link just looked like a foreign title, so I mistook it for that. If that is all that is available, placing the information into the main article is the best thing to do. The only time a character needs to be split from the article is if the information cannot possibly be described without bloating the main article. There is no need to leave an eternal stub. TTN 21:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think this will be an eternal stub. The character seems to be as notable as many on Wiki and it has an interwiki link. Perhaps we could use more comments on that - but I am not sure what is the right forum for discussion of notability or 'redirect or not'?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- You can try WP:3O. TTN 21:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if you want to try that, go ahead. Just consider this: why should we presume that the main character of a popular series (21 60 minutes episodes) is less notable then one of many characters here? That the series is older and not in English, and as such attracting less online stuff, doesn't mean that he is not notable: I am sure he is and will be discussed in various Polish books or articles (as the few online hits show).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- It really isn't even about notability anymore. He may be discussed, but is it really possible to get enough information on him that it warrants its own article? The most logical way to organize it is to combine any character development and reception information with the show's development and reception information. If the character happens to gain enough information as the article builds, it can always be split at a later point. TTN 22:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if you want to try that, go ahead. Just consider this: why should we presume that the main character of a popular series (21 60 minutes episodes) is less notable then one of many characters here? That the series is older and not in English, and as such attracting less online stuff, doesn't mean that he is not notable: I am sure he is and will be discussed in various Polish books or articles (as the few online hits show).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- You can try WP:3O. TTN 21:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think this will be an eternal stub. The character seems to be as notable as many on Wiki and it has an interwiki link. Perhaps we could use more comments on that - but I am not sure what is the right forum for discussion of notability or 'redirect or not'?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, the link just looked like a foreign title, so I mistook it for that. If that is all that is available, placing the information into the main article is the best thing to do. The only time a character needs to be split from the article is if the information cannot possibly be described without bloating the main article. There is no need to leave an eternal stub. TTN 21:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- You were redirecting it to the article about Milicja, a quite real phenomena. With the disclaimer that I have not seen this series, ever, some of the articles I now glanced at note that he was a cult character, a major role and the author who played him is still identified with him (he was the leading actor for the series). Since the series is evidently popular, I think the lead character deserves an article. If you want to fight for notability, try pruning stuff from here :> -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 21:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)