Talk:Rye, East Sussex

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why isn't Spike Milligan mentioned here? The town is mentioned in the article on him.

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I have just arrived in my wiki travels at this corner of East Sussex/Kent borders. Having taken some steps to bring some "new" thinking to several towns in Kent (Dover, Maidstone, Ashford); and, since my home town is Hastings, I took a peek there. I have read a great deal lately about the fact that A Level students are copying piecemeal from WikiPedia for their submissions, so I was pretty horrified to find that the Hastings article was as bad and as naively produced as ever I could have imagined, I took it in hand. I guess that sounds pompous and it probably is! but the article was written in a way that it was obvious no checking of facts had ever been done. As it happened the article was noted as having no references (footnotes); there are now 33. It just read like a bad piece of Public Relations ...

As a member of the WikiProject Geography team I made mention in the talk page of Hastings of the need for contributors to look at Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements - and the same thing occurs here, I'm afraid. There are some 13 headings which should be included, among which are:

• History: Why no dates? Town charter - 1289 ("under Normans"?); town wall - a Google found a medieval ref as 14th century (Stephen was 12th) It is also interesting to note that of the statements made at bullet points (NB articles should be in prose, not lists) the second two are at almost complete variance with the first External Link (Rye Museum): the FACT that Rye became a Cinque Port "limb" in 1189, not 13th century; in 1500 it was one of the "finest of the Cinque Ports" (no date given for that vague "lost its importance"); and now Rye Harbour has an relatively important role with the firm SEACON shipping out stone is ignored. There was the battle of Rye Bay (1350) and smuggling - both completely ignored. And the Romans were here too ...
• I know that WWI soldiers called the battle wipers but is the tower also pronounced like that?
• Governance - quite tricky this - officially just a civil parish, Rye is CALLED a town and has Mayor
• Geography - change of coastline - details? ties in very much with history.
• Transport - how do the links described assist the town's ecenomy: good/bad links? Are we sure that the Marshlink Line actually runs from Brighton?
• Demography/economy - "economy relies heavily on tourism" - nothing else at all? too obvious a statement: facts needed. It is a market town - local area centre?
• education ... and culture ... and sports ... and religious buildings

We have to remember the readers - this talks more to locals. - and facts MUST be checked! Peter Shearan (talk) 16:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Just a quickie - the castle is indeed called "wipers" tower by the locals. The pub's called The Wipers as well (but spelt Ypres). And the Marshlink runs from Ashford to Hastings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.247.82.75 (talk) 16:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)