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Rydra Wong


Welcome! Well, I will be damned if you are not a self-righteous, facist, censorist cunt? I deleted nothing from the original page, all I did was provide a fair warning for researchers interested in truth and logic. I have read the Anarcho-capitalsim article and there is nothing in there that addresses the fact that combining those two words is a drastic and errorneous contradiction in terms. Good luck with playing online poker and taking your children to soccer practice or whatever it is you do with your time because you are quite obviously not an intellectual.

The anonymous gentleman above (user talk:67.184.203.221) left a highly amusing screed inserted at the beginning of Anarcho-Capitalism.I reverted the damage and suggested that while good faith edits to Wikipedia were welcome, vandalism was not and would be dealt with accordingly. In the spirit of Wikipedia I must point out that he is showing a modicum of growth. He managed to avoid the ever so tempting Caps Lock key this time. -- Rydra Wong 06:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Hamlets in the Yellow Springs, Ohio area

A great place to start is by creating articles for area townships (Clark and Greene Counties, maybe?), making sure that each township article includes links to these hamlets. Help for this is available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Ohio townships. Good luck! -- SwissCelt 05:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sea Of Glass

Are you sure "Of" is supposed to be capitalized? My Google search for "sea of glass" and "longyear" turned up mostly results with a lowercase "o". --Maxamegalon2000 04:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. The St. Martin's Press first edition (ISBN 0-312-00780-9) I own has it titled as "SEA OF GLASS" on the copyright page. An ISBN search [1]of amazon.com produces the appropriate cover typeface (consistent with the spine and copyright page) but gives "Sea of Glass" in their description. A search of abebooks.com [2] for the same ISBN produces "SEA OF GLASS", "Sea of Glass" and occasionally "Sea Of Glass". Given the case variations found and the Wikipedia capitalization conventions for books [3], I opted to title the stub "Sea Of Glass" as a compromise. I'm not absolutely sure that my compromise is the most appropriate and I'm open to suggestions. -- Rydra Wong 09:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, I would think one of them has to be the correct one. But as long as you've got a rationale behind it, I certainly don't mind and it's probably not that big of a deal. I just noticed you'd created the two seperate articles, and I redirected to what I assumed was the correct title. I would have gone with the lowercase "o", but if there's some discrepancy maybe it could go either way. If it should be lowercase, I imagine others will notice it when they expand the article anyway. Thanks for the reply. --Maxamegalon2000 15:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brazil

Did you check the IBGE website? I don't think you have it clearly uses Mulatto as a racial description and not Multiracial. Shakam 00:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

My apologies, I have now checked both the IBGE website and the link to the pertinent area of the IBGE site from the Brazil article. I would suggest, however, that the article "Mulatto" not be linked to until it has been substantially refurbished. -- Rydra Wong 01:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, someone might not know what a mulatto is, and the mulatto article has a Brazilian section I believe. Shakam 01:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

My point is that the Mulatto article is very poorly written; it's filled with original research, bias and obvious misinformation. While it makes sense to use the terminology of the IBGE when referencing that site in the Brazil article; linking to a confusing and poorly written article detracts unnecessarily from the quality of the Brazil article. Perhaps tightening and tidying the Mulatto article prior to linking would be a good idea. -- Rydra Wong 02:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

It still gives the basic definition of a mulatto; however, I agree that it is poorly written. I've done little work to it. When I first saw it, I just worked with what was there (it was very poorly written) by adding a few citations and fixing sentences for clarity. It is much better than it was, but with such limited information on the internet of mulattoes, work is slowly progressing. Shakam 06:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yellow Springs sock puppet

I noticed that you have been engaged in editing Yellow Springs, Ohio with user:Omnivore Oprah and user:CubanBaseball. Those sock puppet accounts have now been blocked. If you're interested you may comment here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#CantStandYa blocked. In the future, if you should see another editor showing a similar pattern of edits it would be helpful if you could inform me or another admin. Cheers, -Will Beback · † · 07:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Chrysalids

  • Hi, just to say great work on The Chrysalids, it was a complete mess when I found it and though I had a go at improving it slightly, I'm overjoyed a more committed editor found the article and made it what it now is, an article fitting of what this great and classic book deserves. Keep up the good work, and happy editing! Jdcooper 04:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the kind words. While the article is still a work in progress, it's nice to receive a pat on the back. Thanks also for your assistance in editing and swatting the occasional pest. -- Rydra Wong 23:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stanislaw Lem's atheism

Stanislaw Lem was an agnostic, not atheist.

Please see the article on Stanislaw Lem and follow the link to the interview[4] by Peter Engel wherein Lem explicitly states that he is an atheist. -- Rydra Wong 23:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please discuss reverting

Rydra Wong I am perfectly willing to discuss any edits I make, and if you dispute their value, refer them to a third party, or ask for consensus. But please cease simply reverting my edits without discussion in complete violation of wikipedia policy. I have no idea why you reverted - your failure to discuss the reversions leave me wondering whether you did so because you consider them original research, or whatever. So please stop, and discuss reverting before simply doing so. Unless you discuss your reversion, I am simply reverting back. We need to discuss any reversion - I have now asked you to do so. And again, please, discuss your problem with my edits on the talk page prior to reverting. I have noticed, in studying your edit history, that most of your edits are reversions without any discussion. This is plainly wrong and violative of the basic rules of editing. The rules are in place for a reason...Stillstudying 14:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Singular or Plural

I am sure that somewhere in the millions of pages here is the answer to this question already, but I don't know where and as I consider you as my mentor, I will ask you: I wrote an article on Doorstep Greens, a project in England to create lots of public open spaces with that generic name. I don't know if it should best be entitled thus or Doorstep Green, like the comparable Millennium Green article and I don't know how to change the title once one has created it, if it is. What do you think? Also, how does one make the little verticle line used in some Wiki editing? I can't find such a thing on my keyboardIceDragon64 19:35, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm certainly no authority on this sort of thing but I would think that the plural "Doorstep Greens" would be most appropriate; much as the generic plural Commons is to the noteworthy and singular Greenham Common. I'm not sure which vertical line you mean other than what may already be seen in your signature above in editing mode; the shifted backslash key "|" on my keyboard. Changing an article's title requires renaming the page. I hope I was helpful. Good luck and happy editing. -- Rydra Wong 02:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Second warning on deletion without discussion

Rydra Wong Rydra, I have asked you nicely previously to not delete material without discussion. You seem to think you have the unilateral right to delete without discussion in violation of wikipedia rules. (which though urging editors to be bold, also stress discussion and consensus - something you obviously missed!) I will simply revert your deletion, and have asked for consensus on the talk page. Stillstudying 14:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Rydra- I do hope you are attending to this, I don't know the issue, but it does seem to be respectably written both times. IceDragon64 22:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

IceDragon64 and Rydra Wong It was very respectfully written, and not meant to cause Rydra problems. Quite the opposite! I think she is a good editor who simply has a tendency to be a bit heavy handed with deletions without discussing them, and I am asking her to stop, and seek consensus where the edit is a serious one that she simply disagrees with. I would prefer to work with her, rather than have problems. Stillstudying 15:20, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Varient/variant Spellings

I was looking for the article on fulgarites today and there wasn't one. I checked the spelling in one of my text books, then wrote a stub. I was about to Save when I checked something a search engine, only to find that it is correctly spelt fulgurite (I checked this in Chambers Dictionary!)

Is there some way to alert or note varient spellings? If there was a "did you mean..." device and I could operate it, I would write one for fulgarite and fulgerite, both of which are common on the internet.IceDragon64 22:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion for no reason

Hi

You deleted these paragraphs from the 12 monkeys page:

Screenwriters David and Janet Peoples were intrigued with the possibilities that arose from depicting time travellers as prophets. In a rare interview Janet said "How would we react to people who showed up and said 'Oh I've just popped up from the future' and in turn how would that person deal with our reaction...We were very interested in asking questions like 'Is this man mad? And how about the prophets of the past, were they mad? Were they true prophets? Were they coming from another time? What are all the different possibilities?'" [1] Consequently in the film, prophesy is a key theme. In Katherine Railly's lecture "Madness and Apocalyptic Visions", we are told about the Cassandra Complex where Cassandra was "condemned to know the future but to be disbelieved when she foretold it". Railly also speaks of several prophets warning of an apocalypse who are time travellers sent to the wrong era (As proof, we see from a photograph that one of the prophets is Jose in 1917). Two particular examples are quoted below.

"According to the accounts of local officials at that time, this gentleman, judged to be about forty years of age, appeared suddenly in the village of Wyle near Stonehenge in the West of England in April of 1162. Using unfamiliar words and speaking in a strange accent, the man made dire prognostications about a pestilence which he predicted would wipe out humanity in approximately 8OO years."

"During such an attack in the French trenches in October, 1917, we have an account of this soldier... who, during an assault, was wounded by shrapnel and hospitalized behind the lines where Doctors discovered he had lost all comprehension of French but spoke English fluently, albeit in a regional dialect they didn't recognize. The man, although physically unaffectedby the gas, was hysterical. He claimed he had come from the future, that he was looking for a pure germ that would ultimately wipe mankind off the face of the earth in the year... 1996!"

In addition, when Cole returns to the future having been sent to the wrong year, he hears a voice telling him to be thankful he didnt get sent to ancient Egypt - the implication being that a time traveller warning of an impending apocalype had been sent there.

Since its release in 1996, many eagle-eyed fans have noted prophetic symbolism in the film[2][3]. In particular, the lead character James Cole (initials J.C.) seems to fit the cinematic character type of a Christ-figure, a saviour sent to save humanity from itself. Furthermore the letters "Chris" are the only visible letters on Cole's t-shirt in one scene in the film[4]. While there is no exhaustive list of symbolism in the film, the idea of depicting time travellers as prophets has been confirmed by the screen writers[5].

As this is not Original Research and contains actual quotes from the screenwriters themselves, why was it deleted in its entirety. The only section I am having a mediation cabal with is with regards to a part of the final paragraph - Why did the whole lot go?Breed3011 14:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


What you added to the "Themes" section is a mixture of original research and undistilled supporting evidence for James Cole as a Christ figure. If you read the existing section closely and compare it with your addition I'm certain you'll understand what I mean. Subsequent to your question, I read the commentary by Indecine on the article's talk page and he appears to have already made a number of similar points. At this point the issue has been made moot by your agreement to stand by the decision of the mediation cabal. -- Rydra Wong 19:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citizen of the Galaxy

I have to go with CatherS on this one. Baslim made the final bid and the text states that he "had to be subsidized again by the Syndonian" to pay for the tax on the sale. It doesn't matter where the money came from, Baslim bought himself a slave. Clarityfiend 01:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I see your point Clarityfiend. I'm going to reedit that portion and see if we can't come up with something agreeable to all. -- Rydra Wong 02:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

This is the first time I have ever been consulted about a rewrite, which is pretty cool. I agree that the "flavor" of the article would be enhanced by some sort of acknowledgment of "the derisive flavor of the Syndonian's assistance," but I've no idea how to phrase it succinctly. CatherS 08:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Victim disarmament

Rydra, I was thinking of putting this article up for deletion. What do you think? It's just something out of somebody's book. I don't think it has much currency. It probably doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Griot 18:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Griot, I respectfully disagree. A google search of the term produces 24,000 non-wikipedia hits. This speaks positively to notability and the currency of the concept in the ongoing debate on the use and abuse of firearms. I do not favor putting the article up for deletion. -- Rydra Wong 18:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two different "Dowie Dens" articles

Thanks for the message. Sadly the subject of folk songs is riddled with multiple versions of the same song with slightly different titles, and I'm sorry I have added to this by creating another version of the Dowie Dens. I somehow missed the probable existence of the rather obvious title when I was looking through the list of Child Ballads for redlinks. I agree we should incorporate the material in a single article and have no strong views on which title we take as the main one. I think all other variants that we can think of should be redirects (not deletes), to discourage others from making the same mistake as me. My version was constructed using the Traditional Song Boilerplate that has been proposed in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Roots music project. I would be quite keen to keep that structure or, if not, to feed back to that project any proposed improvements to that structure. I'm happy to do some work on the merging of the articles but may not have time for a few days. Cheers! Bluewave 07:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I've had a go at merging the two articles. My merged version is currently residing at The Dowie Dens o Yarrow. I'd welcome your views on whether this version captures everything important from the other article. I have moved the main lyrics section over to Wikisource (with a link), which seems to be the current policy on song lyrics. If you're agreable, I suggest the way forward will be to copy the text across to the 'of' article and to make the 'o' article into a redirect. What do you think? Bluewave 13:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Category Use

I decided to come to you again as a 'familiar face'. I went to catagorise a chemical into Household Chemicals and I realise that there seem to be two different definitions of what a Household Chemical is: The category includes any chemical ingredient that you might find in the household such as Sodium Laureth Sulphate (in toothpaste) so I put my Hydrated Silica there. However, I didn't feel comfortatable with this, and looked on the Household Chemicals page itself, which has a much more logical definition- chemicals you use in the house AS THEY ARE- such as White Spirit. I put a note to this effect in the discussion page , but I would rather find someone who can help decide this before it piles up more and more 'wrong' links. Who do I talk to or how do I go about this?

IceDragon64 (talk) 22:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cowboy Mach Bell

The standard notable natives section isn't affected by the person's current residence: both current and former residents may be listed there. Beloit, Kansas, for example, includes Waldo McBurney, who hasn't lived in the city for several decades. Nyttend (talk) 11:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)