Talk:Ryan Orr
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I sent you email in good faith to explain your reasoning. You retailiated by adding a new catagory and didn't explain yourself. Please explain yourself in a fair manner. I removed the Steve Walsh and Kansas Music Links that I thought you were complaining about... guess it wasn't that. I wouldn't know since you didn't respond to my email. Since I have no idea what you are referring to I guess it stays like it is. This post has nothing to do with music. The notability itself is this author has several published books. But you should read the guidelines, instead of telling others to. Noteability in this case Is one person having several published novels, that are about others not himself. Noteability is not your opinion of what is important, it is the importance of the persons works as a whole, and this meets that criteria. So you can be reasonable or not, it is up to you. This was taken off another authors bio... one that has one book, and no Notability at all, so I am not sure why you are on about this author... of course not - you never answered my email, which was done, given, and instead of responding , you throw a new catagory on and tell me not to remove anything until it has been taken care of... ahhhh - can't take care of what you don't explain. You might want to explain why you are posting a MUSIC notability problem on an authors page as well. Or just be nice and explain exactly what it is you want added or changed. If this means it gets deleted, then do what you have to. I will fix it, or fight it, that is up to you.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added to the article by Tompetters (talk • contribs) 9:15 to 10:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC) then moved here by A. B. (talk) 11:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Yikes! Nobody's trying to pick on you or Mr. Orr. I only just now got your e-mail. And as for the category, that's automatically added whenever an editor adds the {{Notability}} template to the article.
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- In your e-mail, you said you would take out the offensive parts -- there was nothing offensive in the article to begin with. The only question was whether Mr. Orr was important enough to merit a Wikipedia article. As for whether he has to meet the notability criteria for musicians or the criteria for biographies in general -- either works. For the general criteria, you can follow the link in the sentence before this one to see what they are. I suspect Mr. Orr may meet those criteria, but you need to cite verifiable evidence.
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- As for other authors on Wikipedia with no notability at all, by all means, please tag the article. We have a real problem with this sort of thing which is why there are notability criteria. Wikipedia has something like 1.7 million articles and I'd guess at least one hundred thousand are non-notable, "vanity" additions and/or advertising.
I have put in resources although there are more I am sure. I was trying to keep out the outside links. This should be enough to cover the notability part of the problem. I also added steve walsh and kansas back into the article, and made it so it reads better.
Tom Petters
[edit] Commercial links
This article contains multiple links to commercial websites. Since Wikipedia in a non-profit website, it cannot give the appearance of promoting any specific commercial venture. Therefore, the links need to be removed. Dr. Submillimeter 13:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clean-up tag
I added the "clean-up" tag because the "Notability" section is very strange. Usually, notability information is incorporated into the text, not placed in a bulleted list. This material should therefore be rewritten. Dr. Submillimeter 13:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
