Talk:Ryan Leaf

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Good article Ryan Leaf has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
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Smoking pole for crack? Where's the citation of that incident? We all know he's a failure - but that may be pushing it a bit.

"He has been known to show up uninvited on the field at Washington State football games, often inebriated." Do we have any actual evidence of this? Unklelemmy 19:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] NFL Network

Apparently, the NFL Network wants to hire him as a draft analyst. Should we include that? --D-Day My fan mail. Click to view my evil userboxes 13:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

If they actually do hire him, yes. If they just want to hire him, no. --rogerd 15:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you have a link on that, because I could use a laugh. Quadzilla99 15:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Errors I've Seen

There are a few errors I see. It says "hello" inside Manning's passing yards for his NFL rookie season (3,739), and it says Leaf was signed to four years for "$1.00" (one dollar) and a signing bonus of "$0.25" (twenty five cents). I know he was bad, but that seems a little low, considering the standard for 1st-rounders would be in the millions. As I have no wish to mess up this article, could someone who knows this site make the appropriate corrections? Thanks. --Visitor —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.224.160.159 (talk • contribs) 18:22, May 23, 2006 (UTC)

it was vandalism. now fixed --rogerd 23:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Passed Good Article

I passed Ryan Leaf for Good Article Status because I feel that overall the article is a well written & referenced piece on a controversial subject. I would recommend the following minor improvemens though.

  1. You have a photo of Leaf in the NFL, you may want to consider additional photos from his college/high school days and maybe a picture from the NFL draft. If you can by chance find a copyright-safe image under fair use, the Sporting News had a very interested draft issue cover with Leaf and Manning over who should the Colt's choose as #1.
  2. While overall I was impressed with the NPOV tone, there are slight cases where the POV slip in that I recommend be fixed.
  • That year, Leaf was a finalist in balloting for the prestigious Heisman Trophy, which is given annually to the best college football player.
  • There was actually significant debate over whether Leaf or Manning should be selected first.
  • In one embarrassing locker room incident during Leaf's rookie year, he was caught on camera screaming at a reporter ("Don't...talk to me alright! Knock it off! Leaf said).
::And this comment would be best served with a cited source
  • the Cougars team was, in a sense, set up for Leaf to leave.

But other than that, Congrats to the editors for putting together Good Article. Agne 04:23, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] First round bust

Leaf qualifies as one of these. He compiled a passer rating of 50.0 and was out of the league within 5 years. 216.165.236.141 22:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Agreed, but...

The term 'first-round bust' tends to be subjective rather than objective. There are better ways to state that in an encyclopedic entry, such as 'leaf's career was generally considered to be a failure.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrshooter (talk • contribs) 19:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)