User talk:Rwv37

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Happy editing, Isomorphic 02:25, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I noticed your comment on User talk:Jonel. Generally you're right that people consider their User page as their own space. However, it's also true that since this is a wiki, people are almost always happy to have you fix their mistakes, even on their user pages. Some people even encourage you to correct typos or obvious mistakes in their talk page comments. Isomorphic 05:39, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! -Rwv37 05:50, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

Help desk--I can't really comment on that, but...basically, the community has decided to include fair use images, at least for the time being. So it's OK to check the box, even if it's fair use. Yours, Meelar 23:31, 2 May 2004 (UTC) P.S. User:Jamesday is active in this debate, or you can contact User:Jimbo Wales. Thanks. P.P.S. All this advice is quite provisional. IANAL, nor do I ensure that either of the above will reply/know.

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[edit] Hijacked browser keys

from the pump

Along with the new layout, Wikipedia seems to now hijack browser keys. For example, when I hit "alt-f", which normally brings me to the "file" menu of my browser, Wikipedia instead moves my cursor to the "search" box on the right hand side. When I hit "alt-e", which normally brings me to the "edit" menu of my browser, Wikipedia instead seemingly does nothing - until I happen to hit the "enter" key, at which time it magically brings me to the "edit" page for the article I happen to be on, even if I hit a bunch of other keys in between "alt-e" and "enter".

I'm sure that the heart of whoever made this feature was in the right place. But please. Please. Turn it off. There's nothing worse, from a UI point of view, than taking something that the user knows so well that he doesn't even think about it, and replace it with something else entirely. It stops me in my tracks, confuses me, and forces me to think about things on a conscious level that otherwise are entirely subconscious. Moreover, it can be viewed, in a way, as rude.

I know how to use my browser. I know how to edit Wikipedia articles. Please don't presume that you know better than me how I should use my browser and how I should edit Wikipedia articles.

Thank you.

-Rwv37 03:29, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)

What browser are you using? Presumably you don't want *any* site to do this, and there may be a way to turn it off globally. Marnanel 03:38, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
At this machine, I am using IE 6.0. However, at other machines, I use Firefox 0.8, and I believe I've noticed this behaviour there too (although I could be wrong). You're correct that I don't want any site to do this. However, no other site that I am familiar with does do it in the first place. Presumably because it's annoying, counterproductive, and potentially mildly rude. -Rwv37 03:43, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)
I think you can turn this off by means of your custom skin, but it doesn't address the problem globally. Dysprosia 05:29, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
In Firefox, open "about:config" and filter by "accesskey". The problem is that "ui.key.generalAccessKey" and "ui.key.menuAccessKey" are both "18" (Alt) (Bug 128452). Modify "ui.key.generalAccessKey" to "224" (Meta). You may not have Meta, but I understand that you do not want this feature. Rajasekaran Deepak 05:43, 2004 Jun 14 (UTC)

I believe it is only a feature with the Monobook skin. It doesn't look like there's a way to turn it off inf Prefs (probably should be), so you'll probably have to switch back to Standard if you want to use the ALT keys. Niteowlneils 05:50, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Not true -- I use the classic skin and the shortcut keys are there. This should obviously be a user preference -- I love them. I have an unfortunate tendency to hit Alt-S without filling in an edit summary but otherwise they're a godsend. BTW: to get to the menu bar, in Firefox/Linux you can hit F10 and then the shortcut key (eg F10 f gets the file menu). I think this is copied from windoze, so it'll prolly work there too. Lupin 07:52, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
See meta:User styles#Changing access keys on how to change individual keys or how to disable them completely. -- Gabriel Wicke 08:48, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
One suggestion, which works for me in Mozilla 1.4 -- if one presses and releases "Alt" then presses "F" the file menu opens. If one presses "Alt" and "F" simultaneously, the cursor goes to the search box. Admittedly, this isn't the most user-friendly solution in one sense, but it's certainly the least technical. Jwrosenzweig 19:34, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Seeing as accesskeys are a W3C standard, it's not really fair to say that a site (the Wikipedia) using them is hijacking keys. It's the browsers that needlessly cede control over their shortcut keys. Apparently IE on PC, and Firefox on several platforms, stupidly assign conflicting accesskeys and don't do anything about the conflicts. I'm lucky, because Firefox on Mac assigns accesskeys to ctrl which don't conflict with anything — I'm having a blast using them. Nathan 19:52, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)

DOS and Windows computers have used ALT-key combinations to access their menus (the CTRL key is used for "shortcuts") for about 20 years now, so you shouldn't blame browser manufacturers just because W3C decided to hijack those keys despite a decade of prior established usage for programs (not Web sites). This issue affects ALL Windows browsers, because the ALT key has been the standard way to access Windows menus since the early 1980s. (FWIW, I am actually anti-Borg, but since this issue affects the vast majority of users, I have concerns about it defaulting to 'on', forcing people to register if they want their normal keys back.) Niteowlneils 05:26, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
W3C doesn't say to use ALT or anything else [1]. My guess is that it was Microsoft, aka borg, who set the defacto ALT standard and Mozilla.org copied it. So, I blame them both. And maybe we should poo poo the W3C a bit for inventing accesskeys without saying also that (well, duh) they shouldn't be implemented in such a way that conflicts with existing accelerator keys. Anyway, I guess it doesn't matter; we have to work with the browsers as they are, not as they should be. Nathan 15:06, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Edit attribution

Hi. Edits from your IP have now been reattributed to your username. Regards — Kate Turner | Talk 05:21, 2004 Sep 5 (UTC)

Thanks very much! -Rwv37 03:42, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Roy-beggs-jnr.jpg

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