User talk:Ruzgar/Archive1

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Please do not remove content from Wikipedia; it is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Tazmaniacs 09:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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If you disable images in your browser, you will no longer risk inadvertantly seeing the images. Babajobu 23:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I see...well then go straight to the talkpage, or don't read this particular article. The Wikipedia Content disclaimer is very clear that Wikipedia contains content that will be offensive to some people. Christians have to deal with upsetting images at Piss Christ, Jews have to deal with upsetting images at Anti-semitism, Scientologists have to deal with upsetting images at Xenu, and I guess these images are upsetting to Muslims. That's life on the internet, I guess. Babajobu 00:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] how to remove image of Muhammad (PBUH)

Ruzgar: if you get your many Muslim friends to vote to have the images banned/moved, then it will be banned/moved. This is how the democratic process works. L33th4x0r 00:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] For your interest

Ruzgar: for your interest, I have already voted to have the image of Muhammad (PBUH) removed and a link to the image put in place so that you won't see the image if you don't click on the link.

But unfortunatley, people holding my opinions are in the minority. Like I said, if you want to produce some real changes, you've got to get your Muslim friends to vote on the issue, that's the only way to make a voice in a democracy.

I heard there were thousands of people protesting on the grounds of Copenhagen, if they all voted here on Wikipedia, then it is extremely likely that the image will be banned. L33th4x0r 00:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mobilize non-Wikipedians to vote too

Ruzgar:

Final piece of advice would be for you to get your parents, your siblings, your cousins, your aunts and uncles to sign up to Wikipedia and vote.

L33th4x0r 00:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Babykilledbypkk.jpg

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[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Childwoundedbypkk.jpg

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[edit] Photos

Wikipedia must contains pictures. Wikipedia community published Mohammed's cartoons in the name of freedom of speech. Ruzgar 20:47, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and there are many others such as myself who thinks of that to be problematic.
I do not feel it is necesary to display photos on the PKK page. The terrorism PKK commited can be expressed with words, the Mohammed cartoons cannot. Generaly pictures of bloodshed and/or corpses are only necessary when there arent convincing arguments.
I understand exactly how you feel about the PKK, and I share your feelings to a degree however I do not believe the pictures are aproporate on the article.
--Cat out 22:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User notice: temporary 3RR block

====Regarding reversions[1] made on May 15, 2006 (UTC) to Armenian_Genocide====

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. The duration of the block is 3 hours. William M. Connolley 12:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nationalist Movement Party and Grey Wolves

Hey there -- please do not delete things they way you do. And please do not edit war, and read about the three-revert rule. --Moby 07:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merhaba

Hi Ruzgar. If you feel that a claim needs to be proven, then simply add a {{fact}} tag to it, don't just delete it. Teşekkür ederim. —Khoikhoi 01:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You did it again here! Please use {{fact}} tags instead. —Khoikhoi 16:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Regarding this edit: Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. --InShaneee 18:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this edit: Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. --InShaneee 01:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this edit: Please do not replace Wikipedia pages or sections with blank content. It is considered vandalism. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. --InShaneee 01:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this edit:
This is your last warning. The next time you blank a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --InShaneee 01:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
The information you are removing appears to have sources, which means that it IS 'proven' as far as wikipedia is concerned (see WP:V). Either way, removing large amounts of text without consensus to do so on the talk page is a bad idea at best, and vandalism at worst. Additionally, this is considered vandalism. Adding such a severely POV image for the purpose of defaming a group is patently unacceptable. Consider this your last warning. --InShaneee 01:28, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this edit:
You have been temporarily blocked from editing for disrupting Wikipedia by making personal attacks. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. Additionally, constantly reverting pages without discussion, especially when calling all content but your own 'vandalism', is unacceptable. If you continue this behavior when you return, you will simply be blocked again. --InShaneee 01:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


{{unblock|[[User:InShaneee|InShaneee]] block me becaues i have write things in Wikipedia opposite this admins ideology. He said I have been locked because "personal attacks, ethnic slurs, vandalism, blanking...". I have never make one of them. Please prove these claims. The other admins if this is really "free" Encyclopedia please unlock my account. Khoiko remove my photos wihthout showing a reason. [[Image:Babykilledbypkk.jpg]] this photo has no copyright problems and it is legal to publish. But Khoiko remove it contuinsly. I warn InShaneee but he makes nothing.}}

Denied, this kind of inflammatory soapboxing is not acceptable. --Sam Blanning(talk) 08:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

That is not a insult. That is a reality, that link is a lint to a racist group. <racist comments removed>. If you dont believe me please ask an Armenian user. Ruzgar 22:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Do not make racist comments about an ethnic group or your block will be extended. --InShaneee 22:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I dont make racist comments. Please dont cencorn me. I try to only defend mysefl. Please don't remove thesee sentences and other admins decide is it a racist comment or not!~~

There's nothing to decide. Saying that an entire ethnic group is dedicated to genocide is racism, and not allowable. I've now blocked you for additional two days. If during this time you continue to make racist comments here, you will lose your editing privilages for this page, as well. Please try to be more respectful of other people. --InShaneee 23:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

This is your only warning. Continue to add this picture to articles and you will be blocked. --InShaneee 23:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


Show me a reason. Ruzgar 18:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this edit: You have now been blocked for 48 hours for vandalism. First off, the image you keep uploading is not copyright free, and if you upload it again in the future, you will be blocked without any warnings. Secondly, it is HIGHLY POV and quite obviously opposed by the other contributors to the pages you keep adding it to. WP:POV states that articles cannot take any stance, positive or negative on the issues they present. Slapping a picture of some dead babies at the top of an article you don't like just to make its subject look bad is not only slander, but it's against our policy. Additionally, you can't just do whatever you want on pages. If it appears there's opposition to adding something to a page, you must discuss it (civilly) with the other editors on the article talk page, and accept the results. --InShaneee 22:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The picture has no copyright problem as I mentioned in picture's copyright section.
  • It is not POV If you thik that is POV then go and remove pictures in Armenian Genocide article.
  • I have write also in discuss(civilly(!)) page but no one answers me. The user Khoiko right after I have been blocked. I think you are work like a team.
  • <Personal attacks removed>

Ruzgar 23:12, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


Just because you're blocked doesn't mean you get to continue making personal attacks and racist comments. Keep it up, and your block will be extended and you will lose your right to edit this page, as well. --InShaneee 23:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Unblock denied - take some time and calm down -- Tawker 23:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I dont need to calm down. I am rightful here and I have right to describe a admin as a dictator who blocks users for his personel ideologie. Show me a reason why this image removed and i have been blocked. Ruzgar 23:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Your unblock has been denied, do NOT readd that tag. And this is your last warning, do not make personal attacks. --InShaneee 23:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Your talk page has now been protected to keep you from making more personal attacks while blocked. Additionally, for that incivility, I am now extending your block to one week. --InShaneee 23:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

For re-adding a heavily disputed and clearly POV image the second your block expired, I have blocked you for one month. --InShaneee 17:00, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dictator

Please see my talk page Photo section. The user InShaneee threaten me. Can I do anything for that? For example informing other admins can work.

"This is your only warning. Continue to add this picture to articles and you will be blocked. --InShaneee 23:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)"

Ruzgar 21:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I am no admin but I do want to help you, but you need to make it possible.
Calling an admin a "dictator", "racist", anti-turk, etc does not help us create a better encyclopedia. I want you to apologise from InShaneee. I will try to convince InShaneee to shorten/lift your block if you promise you wont continue the "revert war" and stay civil.
As for the image, I dont think it is aproporate on the PKK article. It is also inapproporate for Armenian Genocide to have similar images of corpses. However the way to remove the images do not go throughthe PKK article. I will talk to InShaneee about this.
--Cat out 23:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

You may want to stop attempting to circumvent your block. This will not go unnoticed, be permitted, nor have any good results whatsoever. If this keeps up, I'm going to have to bump up your block again. --InShaneee 05:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Insult

Well, they were discussing the page User:Grue/List of ethnic stereotypes#Turks. You are welcome to proposes an MfD of the page or remove the most upsetting entries. On the other hand, in my humble opinion discussing the best way to edit such a page is hardly an ethnic insult per se. You are welcome to ask an opinion of another administrator abakharev 04:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

  • MFD=WP:MFD=Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. Since this page is not in the article namespace nor a category, nor a template, etc., then if you want to delete it, it is the place to go. The page might hurt but it is clearly intended to be a joke and all the nations are represented more or less equally there. abakharev 08:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Unblock

For re-adding a heavily disputed and clearly POV image the second your block expired, I have blocked you for one month. --InShaneee 17:00, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

{{unblock|The user Inshanee block me showing no reason. This admin says the picture which added by me is a POV picture. But the picture is not a POV we have discussing it in [[Kurdistan Workers Party]] article. I show reasons here to add this photo. This admin simply want to censor me. I am discussing it in Kurdistan Workers Party article. If this admin think that is a POV he/she can write his/her ideas in that articles discussion page. But he/she have no right to block me.}}

Unblock denied. Readding in a clearly POV pic over and over ignoring warnings, violating 3RR, and insulting an administrator will get you blocked. Sasquatch t|c 03:18, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

3RR, insulting an adminstrator? They are not the reason of my current block. They are the reason of my old blocks. If you dont believe please look at the "history" section. Ruzgar 14:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but you continue to show no regard for policy or administrator warnings. And the fact that you HAVE done so in the past certainly affects my decision wheter to unblock. And if I unblock you, the first thing you're probably gonna do is insert the image anyways. I see no evidence to support an unblock at all. Sasquatch t|c 17:43, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, then please remove the photos from Armenian Genocide article. Ruzgar 18:00, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Because of my block I can't create an archive. And some users like you think that I have been blocked for vandalism. And I want to inform; I make that "vandalism" because I don't know how to use fact templates. After that I never blank pages. Ruzgar 00:15, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

You have been blocked for vandalism, and I'm now extending your block for suggesting others continue your vandalism in the section below, which I am removing due to that and racist slurs. --InShaneee 21:43, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Enogh dont´t censor me!!!! There is no racist comments in the below section. And please explain me which "vandalism" is that. In PKK articles talk page we talk about this image. And no one can show me a reason to why I shouldn't add this photo. And your friends call you because they have no reasons and you blocked me. Which one is "vandalism"? Ruzgar 22:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Since you continue to add racist slurs and personal attacks to your page, I'm protecting it and extending your block. You've shown quite clearly that you're only here to push your own personal agenda. --InShaneee 20:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Your talk page has now been unprotected. Here's to hoping everyone can get along better this time around. --InShaneee 18:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)